NYC Subway Station Shooting, multiple wounded, undetonated devices

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: face23785

Do NY subways have those emergency handles to stop the car? There's video of the car full of smoke and the train is still moving for at least a minute. Can you not stop the car to get out in an emergency, or were all these people just idiots?

Nyc subway cars do have these emergency pulls but they won't stop a train dead in its tracks. Instead it alerts the conductor and staff of a problem. If a train stopped between subway stations that presents major problems in the event of violence as nobody can get on or off.

They don't have that narrow walkway that runs along the tube for maintenance and emergency access?

They do but I can't think of a time in history where they've ever discharged passengers in the tunnel. Too dangerous.

Mind you, subway cars also go over bridges and many operate on open air elevated platforms.

Strange how do you shoot 13 people and not have fatality's was he just aiming for legs ?

Now it's 17 injured wonder how many actually shot .

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

WTF is wrong with people????!!!!!!!


The amount of people just standing around while people are bleeding to death is unbelievable.

I don’t want to hear they are in shock, people in shock don’t whip out their phones and post to Twitter immediately.
If you need to run away, I can dig that, if you are going to stick around at least help try to save a person!!!

Times like these you see the best and worst of humanity. My heart just sank for the dude on the ground.
If I were there I would do what I could to help him.

Very much agree. Like that pileup in PA a few weeks ago in the snow squall. Video going around by this asshole who was running around the scene giddy at all the likes he was gonna get, laughing as several vehicles were going up in flames and more vehicles kept piling in. Everyone else just standing around. Nobody thinks to run up the road and try to signal people to slow down, or try to help the victims.

We've seen this so many times, it disgusts me.

Do NY subways have those emergency handles to stop the car? There's video of the car full of smoke and the train is still moving for at least a minute. Can you not stop the car to get out in an emergency, or were all these people just idiots?

FWIW I wasn't sure either

www.mentalfloss.com...

So When Should You Pull the Emergency Cord?
According to the MTA's website, "Use the emergency brake cord only when the motion of the subway presents an imminent danger to life and limb." The New York Times, which looked into the matter, relayed transit officials' instructions, who said the only reason you should ever pull the brake is in the event someone gets caught in the door or between train cars and "is about to be dragged to an unenviable fate." Unenviable, indeed.

Pulling the cord during a fire or during a physical attack by one of your fellow straphangers will only hinder emergency workers from getting to your car, which is now stuck underground.

Personally I think the car being full of smoke of an unknown nature is a pretty good reason to stop it. No one knows what's in that smoke. Standing in there breathing it for several minutes until the next stop was a really bad idea. If anyone in the car had asthma or other kind of compromised lung function it could've been fatal.

Immobilizing that vehicle in a tunnel for an hour or longer isn't going to help the situation. Cover your face and stay low to the ground, if you have phone service then alert authorities but there's nothing the train operator can do until the next station.

In most emergencies it totally makes sense to let the car reach the next stop. But again, for people with compromised lung function, being trapped in a smoke-filled car for several minutes could've been fatal.

There was also supposedly an active shooter in the car. That's an even better reason to stop it. You're all sitting ducks for him on a moving train with nowhere to run to.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
The suspect is shapeshifting. He has now grown two inches from an hour ago and lost 10 pounds.

So 5’5” to 5’7” and 180 lbs to 170 lbs.

This literally means nothing. It's not uncommon to have these type of ranges for a suspect. It's not like anyone was able to whip out a tape measure and a scale to get exactly numbers.

He has also seemed to have lost skin pigment. He is now described as….man.

This is a more meaningful part. It's the media disappointed that he's not a white man.

They also assumed his gender. Bigots.

a reply to: face23785

In most emergencies it totally makes sense to let the car reach the next stop. But again, for people with compromised lung function, being trapped in a smoke-filled car for several minutes could've been fatal.

There was also supposedly an active shooter in the car. That's an even better reason to stop it. You're all sitting ducks for him on a moving train with nowhere to run to.

Have you been to a city? Do you think they are going to stop a train for people with poor lung function? They don't even want to let them take a mask off.

Other than a catastrophe ahead of a train, there is probably no way they would stop it due to incidents that occur. Being in the city, I imagine there are all kinds of events that transpire on the trains.

a reply to: face23785

Isn't this a little misleading though? We have some people that cannot describe what a woman is so how can we then describe what a man is?

What if the suspect identifies as something else, can they come back and sue these dastardly accusers? Are we even sure the suspect was real?

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

WTF is wrong with people????!!!!!!!


The amount of people just standing around while people are bleeding to death is unbelievable.

I don’t want to hear they are in shock, people in shock don’t whip out their phones and post to Twitter immediately.
If you need to run away, I can dig that, if you are going to stick around at least help try to save a person!!!

Times like these you see the best and worst of humanity. My heart just sank for the dude on the ground.
If I were there I would do what I could to help him.

Very much agree. Like that pileup in PA a few weeks ago in the snow squall. Video going around by this asshole who was running around the scene giddy at all the likes he was gonna get, laughing as several vehicles were going up in flames and more vehicles kept piling in. Everyone else just standing around. Nobody thinks to run up the road and try to signal people to slow down, or try to help the victims.

We've seen this so many times, it disgusts me.

Do NY subways have those emergency handles to stop the car? There's video of the car full of smoke and the train is still moving for at least a minute. Can you not stop the car to get out in an emergency, or were all these people just idiots?

FWIW I wasn't sure either

www.mentalfloss.com...

So When Should You Pull the Emergency Cord?
According to the MTA's website, "Use the emergency brake cord only when the motion of the subway presents an imminent danger to life and limb." The New York Times, which looked into the matter, relayed transit officials' instructions, who said the only reason you should ever pull the brake is in the event someone gets caught in the door or between train cars and "is about to be dragged to an unenviable fate." Unenviable, indeed.

Pulling the cord during a fire or during a physical attack by one of your fellow straphangers will only hinder emergency workers from getting to your car, which is now stuck underground.

Personally I think the car being full of smoke of an unknown nature is a pretty good reason to stop it. No one knows what's in that smoke. Standing in there breathing it for several minutes until the next stop was a really bad idea. If anyone in the car had asthma or other kind of compromised lung function it could've been fatal.

Immobilizing that vehicle in a tunnel for an hour or longer isn't going to help the situation. Cover your face and stay low to the ground, if you have phone service then alert authorities but there's nothing the train operator can do until the next station.

In most emergencies it totally makes sense to let the car reach the next stop. But again, for people with compromised lung function, being trapped in a smoke-filled car for several minutes could've been fatal.

There was also supposedly an active shooter in the car. That's an even better reason to stop it. You're all sitting ducks for him on a moving train with nowhere to run to.

What do you think happens when the emergency lever is activated in a subway car that's underground? There's nowhere to go whether it stops or keeps rolling until it arrives at the next station. The last thing you should do is force the operator to stop the train.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

WTF is wrong with people????!!!!!!!


The amount of people just standing around while people are bleeding to death is unbelievable.

I don’t want to hear they are in shock, people in shock don’t whip out their phones and post to Twitter immediately.
If you need to run away, I can dig that, if you are going to stick around at least help try to save a person!!!

Times like these you see the best and worst of humanity. My heart just sank for the dude on the ground.
If I were there I would do what I could to help him.

Very much agree. Like that pileup in PA a few weeks ago in the snow squall. Video going around by this asshole who was running around the scene giddy at all the likes he was gonna get, laughing as several vehicles were going up in flames and more vehicles kept piling in. Everyone else just standing around. Nobody thinks to run up the road and try to signal people to slow down, or try to help the victims.

We've seen this so many times, it disgusts me.

Do NY subways have those emergency handles to stop the car? There's video of the car full of smoke and the train is still moving for at least a minute. Can you not stop the car to get out in an emergency, or were all these people just idiots?

FWIW I wasn't sure either

www.mentalfloss.com...

So When Should You Pull the Emergency Cord?
According to the MTA's website, "Use the emergency brake cord only when the motion of the subway presents an imminent danger to life and limb." The New York Times, which looked into the matter, relayed transit officials' instructions, who said the only reason you should ever pull the brake is in the event someone gets caught in the door or between train cars and "is about to be dragged to an unenviable fate." Unenviable, indeed.

Pulling the cord during a fire or during a physical attack by one of your fellow straphangers will only hinder emergency workers from getting to your car, which is now stuck underground.

Personally I think the car being full of smoke of an unknown nature is a pretty good reason to stop it. No one knows what's in that smoke. Standing in there breathing it for several minutes until the next stop was a really bad idea. If anyone in the car had asthma or other kind of compromised lung function it could've been fatal.

Immobilizing that vehicle in a tunnel for an hour or longer isn't going to help the situation. Cover your face and stay low to the ground, if you have phone service then alert authorities but there's nothing the train operator can do until the next station.

In most emergencies it totally makes sense to let the car reach the next stop. But again, for people with compromised lung function, being trapped in a smoke-filled car for several minutes could've been fatal.

There was also supposedly an active shooter in the car. That's an even better reason to stop it. You're all sitting ducks for him on a moving train with nowhere to run to.

What do you think happens when the emergency lever is activated in a subway car that's underground? There's nowhere to go whether it stops or keeps rolling until it arrives at the next station. The last thing you should do is force the operator to stop the train.

I have no idea that's why I asked multiple questions about it. If the train stops there's no way to get out of it? What if the damn thing is on fire?

Though not a False Flag Dirty Bomb.

Member Coldwisdom made this thread back on FEBRUARY 27TH 2022.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It would appear that members of the Orthodox Hasidic Jewish Community are quietly evacuating NYC. What do they know and how do they know it?

Test run??

originally posted by: Groover

I'm guessing the shooter used an evil "ghost gun." The timing is suspect.

That is impossible as hand guns are illegal in NYC...

Governor Obvious is now speaking.
They should have put her at the back of the line to speak.
She stutters almost as bad as Biden.

Oops. No information on the suspect.

I predict the suspect(s) are black. Thats what it means, 99% of the time, when no description is given.

The "devices" give me pause though. No gang banger is smart enough to make or even use explosives safely. So my second guess is FBI/CIA false flag attack

Is this a bad time to bring up the "no bail" laws in New York?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Most of us are normal folks who have never packed ourselves voluntarily into a tight space with a bunch of people we dont know or trust.

Most of us have actual homes in real places.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Is this a bad time to bring up the "no bail" laws in New York?

You mean the “catch and release” law?
It’s a perfect time.

a reply to: JAGStorm

No, I avoid those decadent cess pools like the plague.

Cities are for .... IMO, nothing good that can come from going there unless you enjoy mobs, gangs, drugs, gang culture, drug culture, violent rapping, etc. (I despise all those things myself)

Additionally, most cities are litered with trash and homeless camps and look absolutely appalling. And they smell even dirtier than they look!

Especially NYC. Probably has mold, whatever else growing on nearly every overoccupied square inch.

So this guy shot 10 people and none are life-threatening injuries.

It's GOTTA be a Muslim they usually pull # like blowing themselves up in the middle of a crowded market and only manage to kill one other person besides themselves. They're incompetent when it comes to committing violence, thank God.

ETA: Also, just to clarify, I am not JBurns lol even though he is answering questions posed to me.

Lol she blasted the governor at the end there about her crooked Lt Gov’s arrest.
I am surprised she answered.

gonna be hard to catch the longer it goes on. pitch the mask and vest in the trash and run run run.

FWIW isn't it Ramadan?

quote from JBurns: Most of us are normal folks who have never packed ourselves voluntarily into a tight space with a bunch of people we dont know or trust.
Most of us have actual homes in real places.

not all of us are so blessed.

originally posted by: ElGoobero
gonna be hard to catch the longer it goes on. pitch the mask and vest in the trash and run run run.

It's especially hard if they won't give a full description of the suspect in the name of political correctness. Most of the time the public helps catch these people. We can't do that if we don't know the full description.

What if he kills again in the meantime? Political correctness can literally get people killed. See San Bernadino.