Ukrainian forces beating and arresting civilians in Dnipropetrovsk

originally posted by: shaemac
There is zero way most can tell a Russian from a Ukrainian. Ukranian CRIMINALS released from prison were not given uniforms. Ukrainians could easily have taken uniforms taken their IDs from dead soldiers and committed crimes. Many areas of Ukraine are majority Russians anyways. You cannot tell them apart in physical features nor in accent. I spent time in Russia and around both Russians and Ukranians.

While there will always be some bad people w/in any crowd.....Russians military were told not to commit any criminal acts. It serves Russia NO PURPOSE to do this.

Meanwhile, AGAIN literal criminals released from prison were out there doing who the hell knows what - with weapons - running unaccounted for across the country.

Lets start slow, would you say that Russia has killed 1 innocent child yet?

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Yall think the cops are bad in the USA?

This is a complicated topic, it's not black-and-white.

There are lots of 'bad cops' in the world, so also in USA. American cops DO seem more aggressive, violent, unnecessarily so when you watch shows like COPS, or those youtube videos where a cop is actually shown to murder someone they have never met before, or even seen the face of. To me, this is horrifying. (The video I saw was a cop chasing another car and the cop starting to shoot that car while still driving - destroying his own police car's windshield in the process.. it's pretty intense)

American cops do seem to scream angrily a lot - they use angry, fear tactics and other pretty unfair stuff, and even when someone CLEARLY isn't any kind of danger, they scream angrily anyway and make them lay on the ground/floor and handcuff them tightly (and possibly painfully), and only THEN they might have some kind of more 'rational talk' with them. It's pretty crazy.

There's also the aspect of 'peace officers vs. policy enforcers'. A peace officer is a more friendly fellow, keeping the peace and helping the community, and so on. It's the 'dream cop' we all want in our village, everyone knows the cop and the cop knows everyone.

Then there's the 'policy enforcer' type, whose job is not to keep the peace, or even arrest criminals per se, but his job is to acquire funds - or in other words, GET MONEY from you. This means, he will slap fines on you for the tiniest 'crimes', that are not really crimes at all. He will get on your case like a pitbull on a poodle for basically anything, and if you are not violating the law or breaching the peace, he will come up with SOMETHING.

There are not a lot of peace officers anymore, at least in the USA, for all I know. However, my knowledge of this topic is a bit rusty and probably obsolete, so don't take my word for it, research it for yourself.

In any case, then there are the 'psycho cops' that OF COURSE go unchecked, because police protect each other - we all know this type that will beat you to a pulp before determining if you even did anything unlawful, just because he/she can, and thus 'bad, evil cops', then there is corruption, as police salary is probably not very high, but criminals live like rich people.

There was a good Miami Vice episode about an undercover cop that got so used to the 'rich life', he couldn't go back to the 'domestic bliss with a bitter, fat, ugly wife' and so on. Ed O'Neill starring kinda made it a bit funnier than it should've been - can't really be helped, but the point was that when you are put into a position of LOTS OF POWER AND GUNS AND EVERYONE FEARING YOU and at the same time, you are not paid very well, but you have opportunities to get lots of money if you 'bend the rules a little' or 'look the other way' somewhat, and there's really no one making sure you do the right thing, there's not a lot of accountability, and even in those rare cases you can usually weasel out of everything or the system will make sure you won't be punished..

..the temptation is understandably ridiculously strong.

Having said all that, I know from experience and for a fact, that there _ARE_ good peace officers and other relatively good cops, who are only trying to do a very difficult job, and it can be quite thankless at times (although they do get perks, like people's admiration and fear, generally speaking, and free doughnuts (I refuse to call them donuts, just like I refuse to say 'drivethru' instead of 'drive through', but I am probably a relic).

As I said, it's a complicated topic that's hard to do justice in a post, but I hope I scratched the surface. There are good and bad cops, but in a corrupt system, how could it be otherwise? Cops are not supposed to serve the legal system, they're supposed to serve the LAW.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Your question to me was "when was the last time the US was invaded?"

You asked, I answered. Methinks you don't like the answer. That's a personal problem. Learn to ask better questions.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Your question to me was "when was the last time the US was invaded?"

You asked, I answered. Methinks you don't like the answer. That's a personal problem. Learn to ask better questions.

You attempted a lame Whataboutism regarding the U.S. being invaded.

Doesn't matter what your answer was, it doesn't deflect from that lame Whataboutism.

Because the U.S. was not invaded.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

The US is being invaded daily. Not to digress, but many of them are being flown or driven to NY White Plains and Jax in Florida.

You should choose your questions more deliberately.