War crimes being committed by Ukraine (GRAPHIC)

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

The armband thing is a bit of nonsense. Those guys are not fresh in the field taking showers every day and to be honest, the armbands are a good way to be spotted and shot.

The armbands are absolutely not nonsense. They CRiTICAL to anyone engaging in close combat. Russia wears them too.

Why are you making this ish up?

I'm not sure I trust you on the blanks thing either because I've read some analysis on that in regard to this video that does not agree with you.

a reply to: Freeborn
Yes, I am not saying this is solving the mystery, but gives possible answers to some of the questions. Like what are the accents, why no boots but sneakers and if the gunshots were faked or not.

I have zero doubt that both sides engaged in such crimes until now. I may often come over like defending Putin but I am not, it's absolutely uncalled and an invasion, war is always horrible.

Playing devils advocate is my way to distance myself and what I see is this war was provoked by the West with full intent. Putins line in the sand is just that, Putins line in the sand. Actually he can not tell any other country (not Ukraine, the new EU/NATO members) who the ally with.

But the west did all they could to escalate this further, I have no doubt about it. Putin set a line in the sand because he had to, though. And frankly, the US would have reacted exactly the same. Different way of going in but US would do this exactly the same, see Cuba crisis. That was not even connected by land. But it's okay when the US put's their missile that can be nuclear tipped although are not currently into Poland.

Making the Polish people the target to protect the US citizens.

IMHO USA gov. is one of the biggest aggressors right after Germany WW2 when it comes to such things. Endless wars everywhere to secure interest, just with a friendly face.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I agree, it does go some way to answering some important questions regarding the accuracy and origin of the video.

And its good to see that such a recognised MSM outlet isn't just blindly accepting anything and is asking relevant and probing questions.
Of course there are those who will dismiss it simply because it is MSM or that it may suggest - or even eventually prove - that the side they support is capable of committing such acts.

I often play Devils Advocate, shame many people can neither see nor understand that.
Question everything.

Voice From Inside The Kremlin: Deputy Chief Of Staff To Putin - Dmitry Peskov

@ 7:14 in the PBS Newshour video

a reply to: Freeborn

I was actually surprised to see them staying unbiased like that. Not sure if that's really a good thing, because the rest of the time, they give me a different impression.

Especially in the last two years and before that it was Trump who they hid details to make it appear different. And everyone swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

I don't like that Dude either, but lies I can stand even less, even even more so when one seems to be targeted with it and everyone just joins. Because I had that happening to me in school. It makes me react "allergic" when I see that and others laughing and holding their belly because it's so nice to be part of a crowd and act like morons.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

The armband thing is a bit of nonsense. Those guys are not fresh in the field taking showers every day and to be honest, the armbands are a good way to be spotted and shot.

The armbands are absolutely not nonsense. They CRiTICAL to anyone engaging in close combat. Russia wears them too.

Why are you making this ish up?

I'm not sure I trust you on the blanks thing either because I've read some analysis on that in regard to this video that does not agree with you.

The number of stars on your post-show me that at least 4 people reading this never served in the army. Yeah, go ask someone about blanks. lol

Armbands were for when we did exercises because we all wore the same uniform. I figure they are doing it because they have a lot of conscripts. A blue armband is a good way to give your position away.
Also if you read the BBC article they said the UA member's rifle was done up like their SF operators. Do you think any SF unit is going to tie a bright blue ribbon on their arm?

You probably do.

a reply to: TDDAgain

The BBC hasn't helped itself in recent years with some blatantly biased reporting.

But it gets it from both sides, as do most media outlets nowadays.
Anything that might have even a leftist leaning slant to it is immediately proclaimed as evidence for its left leaning tendencies by the right.
Anything with a right or Tory perspective is automatically demonised as proof of the Beeb's Establishment and Conservative tendencies.

To be honest at times both seem to be true - quite contradictory I know.

And now of course its bought completely into the all the woke related nonsense its become a complete and utter joke.

Which is a shame because there are still some good journalists there.....and some good programme makers.
It seems to me that its the policy makers who are ruining it.

The BBC needs to go back to just reporting the facts and letting their viewers/readers make up their own minds - not that many seem capable of doing so.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

Do you know what happens when you fire a semi-auto with a blank?

It will not cycle. So he was firing real bullets. The armband thing is a bit of nonsense. Those guys are not fresh in the field taking showers every day and to be honest, the armbands are a good way to be spotted and shot.

There is plenty of fresh blood in that video. Unless you hit an artery you are not going to start gushing blood. The second video I have never seen so no comment.

That is not entirely true. If you use a blank adapter to restrict the muzzle. They will cycle. A blank adapter probably could be designed to look like a flash suppressor. Just don’t get the firearm confused with a unrestricted barrel, and try to fire a live round through it.

I was told in basic while using the old Miles gear, the blank adapter was needed because the blanks were about quarter loads on gun power. Not sure if that is true. But I imagine a hot enough blank would cycle the fire arm.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Actually I heard Seal Team Six has been instructed to wear a Rainbow Arm Band to promote diversity.

a reply to: neutronflux

You can see there isn't a blank adapter on it because there is a flash from the muzzle.

I load some of my own ammo and I don't think you can cram enough powder in a blank to make it cycle without an adapter. If you could the flash would be enormous.

I could be wrong because I have never tried it. I never even loaded blanks but I really doubt that I am wrong on this.

a reply to: Freeborn

I noticed this in newspaper too. I learned in school there is a difference between an "article" and an "opinion". And that opinionating has to be kept out of "article" by all means. Facts.

We had lessons about it how to approach a topic with pro and contra arguments, draw a overall conclusion and if wanted add a personal opinion declared as such at the very end.

That's how it should be. I remember when evening news came on you'd shut the hell up and listen to the news. The news anchor read the news in a neutral voice and always looked the same way.

No body language or facial expression or smug after words to put a spin on what just was said. That was in the 90s. Today that's different, already during reading it, you can feel the opinion swapping over. I actually deleted a radio channel from my car because they went complete one sided on many topics.

There was no mistake in picking up the disgust in the voice and undertone, and they made no secret out of it, because they were private, said that openly and how they can point the middle finger to the state censoring because they do not get a cent from the state.

These times are over when you could at least trust on a neutral presentation even though it may had a spin on it, it wasn't as obvious and people had to form their opinion themselves. We have a word for that "opinion making" "meinungsmache"

a reply to: TDDAgain

Its sad but I reckon I know the political leanings of most political commentators on the major TV news outlets simply by their body language and tone used when interviewing politicians.
The same can be said for many presenters etc who aren't even commentating or presenting political programmes.

But the BBC seems to get targeted by both sides; the 'left' think they are an extension of 'The Establishment' and The Tory Party and the 'right' think they are raging pinko, commie bastards.

The one thing that is unquestionable is that it is riddled with wokism, same as all the major news outlets and MSM.

I've become so dismayed with the blatant political bias shown that its very rare that I watch or listen to any political commentary or reporting on TV or radio these days.
Its got that bad that even most investigative journalism comes with a pre-determined bias or agenda.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Shrugs…

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a reply to: vonclod

Did you not feel sorry for the abducted American soldiers in Iraq (2006) tortured to death?
There were countless other beheadings of contractors
They were invaders too. Putin and many Russians may believe it's a righteous war too.
And their conscripts had no choice but to go (most likely not knowing where)

If you find a double standard in your mind you know that it's easy to feel compassion. You just block it.

Warning graphic content. Video recorded by an Azov fighter. Body of a DPR soldier on the ground with clear signs of torture. Kicks and spits on the body.

htt ps://files.catbox.moe/opcyjw.mp4

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Your simply offering bullet statements with no supporting information.

This speech is right before the one you're misquoting and specifically mentions Communism.

ADDRESS TO AMERICAN SOCIETY OF NEWSPAPER EDITORS, 20 APRIL 1961.

Where is your research of the KofC? Is it a nefarious blood oath cult? Show your work.

Who said 'blood oath cult' besides you? Stop shifting the goalposts, Kennedy was in the KofC and it was widely known.

Apples and oranges.

This speech is right before the one you're misquoting and specifically mentions Communism.

Obviously about that subject. I haven't misquoted anything, I was specific about his "Secret Society Speech" (The President and the Press) Where he asked the news publishers to share pertinent information, not about the Soviet Union, but about "Secret Societies". Was the Soviet Union, a secret society? No, but was instituted by a secret society member, Karl Marx's? A Khazar!

Who said 'blood oath cult' besides you? Stop shifting the goalposts, Kennedy was in the KofC and it was widely known.

So, whats your point? I was a Boy Scout, is that considered a "Secret Society"? Your pointless without a argument.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Boadicea

So. Now your posting about us? When you only had to use the alert / report icon?

Nope. I posted to you. As is appropriate on a discussion forum. I addressed you directly, replied specifically to you so you were well aware of my comment, and provided you every opportunity to respond directly to me and say what you have to say. It's called intellectually honest discussion... as opposed to petty backstabbing gossip.

Shrugs…

Figures.

a reply to: neutronflux

I don't need to spin it...I visited the page and read the article. 2 things stood out...it had no sources linked to it or anything to actually present as evidence and its also literally at the level of a blog not really journalistic looking at all. If true though I would condemn it and that person would get no support from me at all. I would like to see some actual evidence of this though as what you linked is literally just them saying it happened...and its not like we haven't seen them flat out make stuff up already...looking at you snake island and ghost of kiev...

Edit to add: why is it under the entertainment section?

It looks like that.

In a way its merciful as they are taking them out of the fight and not killing them for Putin.

a reply to: DaRAGE

a reply to: Freeborn
I only hear radio and even that stays off currently to keep my daugther away from hearing about children in war and war in general. She does not know what war is, she knows no violence other than someone taking a toy from her. And I like to keep it like that, she has it hard enough with the COVID currently.

I always enjoyed the BBC documentaries but even there seems to be a spin now. Maybe it is my bias though, I have not reflected on that enough yet to draw an educated non gut conclusion.

IDK if you know BILD, I only read it for # and giggles, the nonsense stories, I treat it like a fantasy book. But even they now start to call out wokism and start to fight for the unvaccinated and try to give them a voice.

Only time I plug in the TV is when we know what to watch, like a documentary or a children movie, but zapping on the TV hasn't happened since a long time.