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Ukraine Still Has Most of its Air Force Intact - Why Does President Zelenskyy Want More Aircraft?

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posted on Mar, 8 2022 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: MisguidedAngel

No. You just parrot Russian lies.

Shame on you.

Apologist for Putin's murderous invasion.



posted on Mar, 8 2022 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Outside, in public, surrounded by many public officials, in front of recently damaged government buildings.

There is ZERO doubt, that this was just more 100% russian propaganda BS.

I'm sure putin is proud of your efforts.
Thanks for spreading it.



Well I thought the only interview after the claim is him just in his office, I have not seen this video "outside with recently damaged government buildings" and him "surrounded by many public officials", it would have to have come out just in the last few days.



posted on Mar, 8 2022 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: MisguidedAngel

There was a new video released this morning, which may be what the other posters have seen and are referring to:



posted on Mar, 9 2022 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

You and I agree to disagree.

MSNBC is just like the rest of the mainstream media in the West. It prints and says what it is told to print and say. Independent and analytical thinking there ist verboten.



posted on Mar, 9 2022 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Monday, March 7, 2022

When the MSNBC Pentagon correspondent announced this today, it blew me away. It appears Ukraine President Zelenskyy wants everyone else to commit and sacrifice planes, but he's not willing to commit his Airforce to fighting Russians.

WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - Ukraine still has a "significant majority" of its military aircraft available nine days after Russian forces started their invasion of the country, a U.S. defense official said on Friday.

Vastly outmatched by Russia's military, in terms of raw numbers and firepower, the fact that Ukraine's own air force is still flying and its air defenses are still deemed to be viable has surprised military experts.

"The Ukrainians still have a significant majority of their air combat power available to them, both fixed-wing and rotary wing as well as unmanned systems and surface-to-air systems," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

After the opening salvos of the war on Feb. 24, analysts expected the Russian military to try to immediately destroy Ukraine's air force and air defenses.
Source: www.reuters.com...

Is it possible that Ukraine is fighting in the air, but Russian fighter jets, and ground-to-air missiles are missing the superbly talented Ukraine pilots?

Why does Zelensky want more jets if he still has most of his in tact?

Maybe there are more pilots than there are jets and helicopters available?

-CareWeMust


To those who love their family and want to keep on living and enjoying each other...

Be aware of U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, and those who talk like him.

Like other top-shelf politicians, he has something in Ukraine he wants kept hidden.

Why Won't Biden Let Poland Send Fighter Jets to Ukraine?!?!, Graham exclaims.

Source: twitter.com...

Graham would rather have a US-Russia war, than let his (and former Senator John McCain's) Ukraine-related secrets be revealed.




posted on Mar, 10 2022 @ 09:18 AM
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3.10.2022

Today is the only time I've seen FoxNews speak positively about V.P. Kamala Harris.

Why is that?

Because she is helping to get the U.S./NATO directly involved in the Russia-Ukraine War.

Harris and Poland's President working things out: www.foxnews.com...




posted on Mar, 10 2022 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

America's number one stated political rival was the USSR until it collapsed. Putin's stated goal is not to revive the USSR but to reform a Russian empire along the lines of Dugin's Eurasianist theory. If you think in Cold War, all you'll see now is outdated Cold War nonsense.

I don't agree with the invasion of Ukraine, but there are 3 powers on the block, US/NATO, Russia, and China. Eventually one will be crushed by the other two, and I dont think starting a war with the one that doesn't currently have concentration camps is wise.

Russia is not the worlds biggest political or humanitarian threat, China is.

And implying that the Mainstream media lies to us isnt supporting any cause, its verifiable fact.



posted on Mar, 10 2022 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Just post more fake videos of air combat and save us giving them airplanes they have no intention of using.



posted on Mar, 10 2022 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: Dutchowl

The Ukraine Air Force started the invasion with 98 fixed wing combat aircraft. Of those, 14 were used for conversion training. Russian forces have hit multiple airfields, destroying an unknown number of aircraft on the ground. At least six MiG-29s were damaged on the ground, possibly damaged enough that they will never fly again. At least seven aircraft have been confirmed shot down. So if they had a 100% mission capable rate (which is impossible), they'd be down to 85 aircraft, with 14 of those being used for training, and possibly no longer combat capable. So lets say they are all available, and all combat capable. Russian air defenses are more formidable than the Ukrainian defenses, so do you risk them all on routine operations, and take out a few tanks, or do you try to save them for a throw of the dice and go for one big target.



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 03:49 PM
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Tuesday March 15, 2022

Tomorrow at 9am Eastern, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will address a joint session of Congress, to explain why the USA should put itself in a position to suffer casualties at the hands of Russia, like he's doing.

Full Story: www.independent.co.uk...




posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday March 15, 2022

Tomorrow at 9am Eastern, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will address a joint session of Congress, to explain why the USA should put itself in a position to suffer casualties at the hands of Russia, like he's doing.

Full Story: www.independent.co.uk...


F him
No blood for covering up Ukraines shenanigans



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Calm down, it's been made crystal clear that it ain't going to happen.

Even to you.

How is he putting his country "in a position to suffer casualties at the hands of Russia"?

He got invaded by Russia.

Should Ukraine just go quietly into the night, just to please surrender monkeys, like your good self?



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Calm down, it's been made crystal clear that it ain't going to happen.

Even to you.

How is he putting his country "in a position to suffer casualties at the hands of Russia"?

He got invaded by Russia.

Should Ukraine just go quietly into the night, just to please surrender monkeys, like your good self?

Send your British children to shed blood for a free Ukraine!!!



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Ukraine.

I've made it clear that NATO should not get involved unless Putin attacks a NATO member.

That's a cheap shot.

Like I suspect you've probably had a few of?





posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Are you living under a rock these days? Many British ex forces have joined up alongside the Ukrainians fighting this Russian invasion. So before you point the finger understand many have volunteered to shed their blood.



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2


In your opinion, What will Zelensky ask for tomorrow morning?



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

But, he is?

Why are you an apologist for him?


If you lost 9,000 soldiers to Ukraine "Freedom Fighters", wouldn't you do more to kill Ukrainians?

The United Nations says as of this morning, there are fewer than 407 civilian deaths in Ukraine. (Source: thehill.com... )

Either Vladimir Putin is telling his soldiers to not retaliate, or his soldiers do not want to retaliate, or Ukraine has not killed 9,000 Russian soldiers.

Which is it do you think?


Russia losing this many troops is all Propaganda. According to Ukriane there was 3500 dead in the first 30 hours. Not buying that.

400 dead Ukrainian civilians? Then you got to say perhaps 1/2 of those were "civilians" with guns, perhaps?

If you would just go off what the US media is showing you would think literally tens of thousands of civilians were killed, not 400. I just watched 20 minutes worth and all they are talking about is Russia purposely targeting civilians. 12/13 days into the war that's like 32/33 deaths a days on average, across the entire country, which is a very small amount.

To put it in perspective OVER 400 AMERICANS DIE EVERYDAY TO FENTANYL OVERDOSE!!!!

why aren't we doing everything in our power to fight Fentanyl/opioid addiction and fight Fentanyl coming into the country from the southern border?!?!? Why isn't the Opioid epidemic on the news a lot more when over 400 young Americans are dieing every single day?!?

14,000 ethnic Russian civillians killed in Donbass from the Ukrainian government in past 8 years but not a single word of it mentioned? Evidence of war crimes committed by Ukrainian forces in Donbass, not a word mentioned.


Excellent post, I am astounded that so many people and posters on ATS lack the basic level of awareness that you have demonstrated here.

I’m seeing varying reports of 600 ukranian deaths to 20,000.

And according to western media, Russian forces are so badly decimated they are having to recruit Syrians and foreigners to aid them. Well of we believe Ukraine that 12,000 russian soldiers are dead thats still only 6 per cent of their deployed invasion forces, and 1 per cent of the Russian armed forces.

So while 600 civilians deaths is very unfortunate and horrible, its not the holocaust that the media is portraying it to be. Its not like the 1 million iraqis dead from The US invasion.



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: deviant300
a reply to: shooterbrody

Are you living under a rock these days? Many British ex forces have joined up alongside the Ukrainians fighting this Russian invasion. So before you point the finger understand many have volunteered to shed their blood.

Point the finger at what?
Another tank war in Europe?
Freaking BRILLIANT!!!!
Hopefully enough volunteer over there, none from here will be requested.



posted on Mar, 15 2022 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Every day.. EVERY DAY, the mainstream media runs stories describing how the Russians are escalating their indiscriminate killing of civilians. Like this one...
But if you notice, there is never a running Death Tally...like the sordid idiots did with Covid-19. That's because the U.N. says there have been fewer than 600 civilian deaths, as of March 13th. Source: news.un.org...

But the Russians are using their world class destructive firepower to target civilians? Bullchit. Just more "mongering" in the hopes of getting the USA/NATO directly involved.

The entire Western Media is on that sick bandwagon.



posted on Mar, 16 2022 @ 01:37 AM
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Can you guys not see what is happening?

We're all being lied to to bring in a NWO...
When have we ever seen citizens actively encouraged to go and join in on a fight in another country...?

If Russia was invading America or UK do you think this is how it would pan out...
Considering the capabilities of Russia, this is the tamest "Invasion" I've ever seen.

Considering Russia could just fly some craft over ukraine and drop a couple of bombs and be done with it...
Why would they risk losing thousands of soldiers instead?

And don't bloody tell me because they want to keep ukraine intact... They wouldn't have to bomb all of ukraine.. just some tactical targets, then rebuild it would cost them pennies in comparison to what they're currently spending atm.

The world is a stage, we should know this by now.

The NWO is not a conspiracy it is a goal

This is a war on our minds and our spirits,
Make life hard enough for people and they will accept just about anything...


After what our governments have done to us the past 2 years... I don't trust any of them
And neither should you.





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