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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:33 PM
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Hi folks. After some time, the overlords have sent my tax stamp and approved my form to make a short barreled shotgun. It’s an 870 express, a good reliable pump 12ga. But I have run into a few snags

1) I had planned on doing a rear pistol grip and 10” barrel. But was reading (and hoping I’m wrong) that it may make an AOW and not a SBS. In this case, do I need to start the process all over to make an AOW? Or does the fact it started out as a shotgun make it a weapon made from a shotgun?

2) If the answer to above is yes, I will just keep a regular stock on it and still take 8” off the barrel length (currently a flat 18.0”)

Also, I cut down the forend and it fits well, the nut screws down just fine.

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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:39 PM
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You might check out the ATF website.

www.atf.gov...

It appears to me (although I am no authority on this) that you may be correct on the AOW designation.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: whiteboyrick

Thanks Rick I was thinking so too

Heck I just recently learned I could put an 11.5 on my RLR without an additional stamp to SBR the lower so was thinking maybe there was some more obscure little things like that 😁

You hear of SBR and even registered MG pretty often but not many people seem to be making SBS these days



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:53 PM
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And for anyone that has done it before….

Hacksaw or grinder? Or Dremel with grinding wheel?

I plan on using a tube with sand paper I made to put a bevel on the barrel and make it look even/neat. But I only have done one other SBS and it was a over under



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
And for anyone that has done it before….

Hacksaw or grinder? Or Dremel with grinding wheel?

I plan on using a tube with sand paper I made to put a bevel on the barrel and make it look even/neat. But I only have done one other SBS and it was a over under

Is the barrel choked?
Do you want a choked barrel?
I would have a gunsmith cut it down, except in a shtf situation.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

It is unchoked at the moment and given to me by a friend as part of a trade for a 4 wheeler motor. So I don’t mind risking a chop job 😁

I sort of enjoy doing the work here, although a close friend of mine is a professional gunsmith if things go sideways

I am mostly trying to cut down on weight and make it a pair with my AR pistol or an SBR. I am thinking of it as a truck gun, or a camp gun. And wanted something “cool” for my daughter to take with her this Summer (NFA trust with travel paperwork filed)

This has turned from a project gun into a redemption gun 😁



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I am currently working on a Belgian side by side muzzleloader that was made somewhere between the end of the US Civil War and 1900. It is a 14 gauge with twist barrels. I plan to make a shooter out of it, since it is only worth a couple of hundred bucks tops.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Beautiful! Sounds like it would be a fun shooter 😄

You got to love the way they kick and the specific kind of report they have. I actually saw a non-NFA integrally suppressed muzzleloader made by one of the big can companies, pretty cool in concept. But my first thought was how nice it was to see innovation made on something that’s been around so long. On one hand, if it isn’t broke don’t fix it…but still neat to see there are people out there still innovating

You have got me jealous, that sounds like a really fun project
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posted on Mar, 25 2022 @ 07:56 AM
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SB tactical has the brace that will bolt right onto the 870. I just got my fiancé a Tac-14 in 20ga. The brace got delivered yesterday. That thing is light and maneuverable as all get out.



posted on Mar, 25 2022 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: Moon68

Very nice choice!

I looked at those, ended up settling on this since I already had it anyhow. Cut it all the way down to 6" and am making a custom foreend now for it

Without a choke, the spread is impressive but still not as wide as you might expect. In a mag fed semi auto setup, it would be a true StreetSweeper/StreetCleaner



posted on Mar, 25 2022 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: Moon68

Very nice choice!

I looked at those, ended up settling on this since I already had it anyhow. Cut it all the way down to 6" and am making a custom foreend now for it

Without a choke, the spread is impressive but still not as wide as you might expect. In a mag fed semi auto setup, it would be a true StreetSweeper/StreetCleaner




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