Russia prevented biological warfare

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


No.

Who ever points out russia's obviously absurd lies mkst effectively 'wins'.

Which means you never wins.

Because ONLY russia invaded a peaceful neighbor posing no threat over it's own propaganda lies.



Please tell vlad that nobody believes anyone after identifying them as a serial liar.

Game is already over for russia as a result.




Wanna discuss freedom speech in russia again?

That was funny.

Freedom of speech? Tell that to the vast majority of Western media. ALL Russian media are blocked, most Western resources that have an independent point of view are blocked, Reddit announced yesterday that all Russian sources are being blocked.
And you're talking about freedom of speech???

Thank God, ATS supports freedom of speech. Thanks to the moderators and the owner!

Do you want to introduce absolute censorship with one opinion on our forum as well?

Yes, thank god there are still sites like ATS available to provide a generous platform for the far right, Russian trolls and Nazis. I certainly think ATS would be a lesser place without those characters. I imagine we would be left with boring old conspiracy threads about aliens, time travel, the paranormal and genuine conspiracies instead of the hugely popular political forum it has become.

You have too little experience at the ATS. Otherwise, you would know that I never respond to provocations and personal insults. Don't even try

Tell yourself that and your selling yourself short on all the facts. These guys are all working with the Trilateralist and the Illuminati we have all been here to discuss since ATS was formed.

"They" exist and use the US , NATO and many small nations like Iran and Iraq over the decades since the CIA was formed. We have a secret gov doing major damage it seems in our name that has a lot of explaining to do at bare minimum to the entire planet. Not just the taxpayers here. We are crippled by them as we speak. Those who would claim to represent "truth and justice for all" are failing their oathes.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Justoneman


NATO isn't a country.

The absurd propaganda lie is that the U.S. is operating 100 secret bio weapon labs in Ukraine, not 'NATO'.

This device could NOT be connected to any American network.

So is not evidence of anything other than that russia has access to label printers.

And that russia is still desperately trying to justify invading a peaceful neighbor that posed zero threat to russia, based on this propaganda lie.

a reply to: RussianTroll


Can't take your own medicine?

Maybe stop attacking folks with propaganda lies.

a reply to: Justoneman


Could be.

But THAT was not russia's claim.

They said USA.

Because nobody else in NATO has the ability to do what russia claims on the scale that russia claims in their propaganda lies.

THIS device could NOT connect to a U.S. network.

So it's only evidence that russia has label printers

a reply to: RussianTroll

5 reasons for why I am highly skeptical:

1) Government asset tags will usually contain a barcode to assist in asset management and to avoid transmission errors.
2) These stickers do not show the same wear and tear as the devices they are attached to.
3) The numbers on any government tags are usually so tiny that you can barely see them.
4) Asset tags are typically metallic stickers.
5) Even if it's a legit NATO laptop with stickers and all, it's just a picture of a NATO laptop with stickers. That picture could have been taken almost anywhere.

And honestly RT, you should know that we have much better places than Ukraine to put our labs.

I would agree you have a point too.

Can't make much of it.

Is it possible? I would think that is a yes.

Is it like The troll thinks? Well, maybe not?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Justoneman


Could be.

But THAT was not russia's claim.

They said USA.

Because nobody else in NATO has the ability to do what russia claims on the scale that russia claims in their propaganda lies.

THIS device could NOT connect to a U.S. network.

So it's only evidence that russia has label printers

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: putnam6

LOL, I don't hate Russian people, DID another thread just today admiring the Russian people for protesting. Don't hate you either for that matter, lol it's just this invasion thing and killing innocent people. Didn't like when the US does it or anybody else. Honestly, I believe our leaders decide what they want to do then contrive reasons to give to the public on why their actions were justified.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

FWIW what's that got to do with the Level 2 Biolabs in Ukraine? If you have evidence these are level 4 Bio Labs Im sure NATO and other countries would like to know.

Whoever says LOL first is right?
Get back to reality. The activities of American biological laboratories in Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan have been widely publicized in the world for 4 years. Terabytes of State Department documents about their goals and funding have been published. I myself have repeatedly published the data, look at my blog. I'm not going to enlighten you, don't be lazy and get back to reality.

Okay once again are these level 2 Biolabs or level 4 Biolabs?

and is there any evidence that there was an imminent threat to Russia?

So instead of invading to knock out level 2 bio labs perhaps it would have been more prudent to try and negotiate, Id bet 10,000 Russian souls wished he had tried diplomacy just a couple of weeks longer. But the military couldn't do that as they needed frozen ground to operate effectively, and not get stalled by General Mudd

Once again any use of biological weapons would make Ukraine a pariah, even if they used it now, as they are getting bludgeoned by the Russian military. They would be shunned.

The point now is Putin has expressed his vengeance, decimated the new Russian protectorates, crippled Ukraine economically and militarily. How about just pausing to see if a constructive ceasefire can atleast let non-combatants get out of the way.

You just have to follow international law. In particular, the treaties on the prohibition of biological and chemical weapons, which were signed by both the United States and Ukraine. Russia has destroyed all its chemical and bacteriological weapons under the supervision of the relevant international organizations. The United States and Ukraine did not destroy.
Listen, let's be honest. Do you really not understand that in the event that bacteriological weapons are used from the territory of Ukraine, Russian nuclear missiles will fly over to the USA and Great Britain. No one will listen to your reasoning, having all the information. Are you ready to welcome Russian missiles?
This is madness!!!!

It is indeed madness...

As soon as Russia launches everybody launches and everybody loses. I don't like it but here we are.

I don't like what's going on in Ukraine either I really don't check my history prior to it, but I consider invasion the last option.

If Russia removed the biological threat then obviously that is a good thing, Im not arguing your points as much as the heavy-handed military response.

Speaking of madness what's your perspective on Syria, looks like it could get a lot worse and that's right on Israel's doorstep

a reply to: Justoneman


A very clever CT, I agree.

Impossible to disprove.

I've long admired the cleverness in this one.




RUSSIA and russia supporters here have long claimed that they actually have proof.

Even used claims of this proof as justification for russia killing Ukrainians that posed zero threat to russia.

Still doing that right this minute.

Funny though, I've made just about as much noise as possible, literally challenging anyone to show any such proof, or any kind of actual evidence at all.

May even accept crayon drawings.

Intentionally walked right up to the line of T&C banishment in making these challenges.

Still nobody has anything to show.

Except Feelz & insults.




Because it was always a 100% BS russian propaganda lie.

One of russia's best.

a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1
It's because disclosure has happened the aliens are already identified by Ronald Reagan, UAPs are simply UFO'S and Tom DeLonge is still a rock star writing sekret machines on mars published by NASA.

So now the only thing that's left is how the F we can get rid of those pesky anal probing politicians that ruined our world?

a reply to: 0bserver1


Lizards.

Don't forget those damn lizards.

as i have been watching social media Russians seem to only care that all their money is worthless and that they cant use their cards etc.


maybe Russia should get its government in order before invading and waiting to take over others land.

America is by no means prefect but i think that we really do try to make the world a better place and the fighting men and women of or many services i KNOW just want to help out the civilians of where ever they are.

The US does not kill political opponents with dioxin or old men with polonium and innocents with some of the most potent nerve agents in the world let alone dump polonium down a freaking sink in a hotel.

Russia is only a second world state because they have inherited the nukes that were build and paid for with the lives of their dead country men.

i can count on 2 hand and they are all accidents of how many nuclear scientists that were killed developing our weapons.

and on that threat Ukraine said they got rid of ALL their nukes, im sorry i don't buy that for a second i think they have a Israli Sampson option that if Russia were to invade thee capitol they might light off a nuke in the center of the city

at this point anyone supporting russia is on the wrong side of history.

they are using cluster munitions on civilian living areas and using other nasty weapons to injure, kill and displace civilians.

and now you think that they would wait moneths if not years to show this old lap top, why not show the world whats on it not just a blank screen

if they were watching some of the US's best drones footage and flight data they would release it to the world to show we are doing more than just arming them.

but yet we so no videos of US drone footage or proof of any sort of chemical weapons factory.

and if they did think it was a chemical weapons location why on earth would they attack it with tons of their own men in the area?

this story is as fake as it gets.

hell it could be one of their own computers from a nato meeting.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6
Just because somebody has a weapon it doesn't mean it was going to be used. Did Ukraine threaten to use biological weapons?

If this is true then it may have been worth it to Russia to lose 10,000 troops. I would also imagine if true, Russia would have spoken with certain NATO member nations about this.

Though would Ukraine use biological weapons with their civilians in danger, not to mention, there have to be some talks with the NATO nations and I can't see NATO continuing to support Ukraine if they did use them. It would enflame Russia and the rest of the world.

Imagine Russia giving bioweapons and their means of delivery to Mexican drug cartels, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and other US enemies.
Will you live comfortably?

so your saying Ukraine is your enemy i didn't see Ukraine invading Russia??? lol

a reply to: RussianTroll

Ok that's funny that the laptop is at least 15 years old. An IBM Thinkpad seriously you think NATO still uses those the company stopped making them in 2005 because no one bought them.

See apparently Russia doesn't know this so they picked the wrong laptop for their disinformation. NATO laptops are sold at auctions after only 5 years of use in other words there is no way this laptop had top secret information on it and most likely was sold at auction after memory wipe. So at least now we know where all outdated laptops go to die apparently it's Russia.

originally posted by: putnam6
Just because somebody has a weapon it doesn't mean it was going to be used. Did Ukraine threaten to use biological weapons?

If this is true then it may have been worth it to Russia to lose 10,000 troops. I would also imagine if true, Russia would have spoken with certain NATO member nations about this.

Though would Ukraine use biological weapons with their civilians in danger, not to mention, there have to be some talks with the NATO nations and I can't see NATO continuing to support Ukraine if they did use them. It would enflame Russia and the rest of the world.

Even if it's true I could never see NATO coming out publicly and admitting this, never. The US would just lie and say it's all Russian Propaganda and other NATO countries would never come out and say the US did anything wrong. This is what NATO IS, a group of countries that would go to war and die for each other and if they would DIE for each other they would keep secrets and LIE for each other as well, this is what Gangs and criminal organizations do as well.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel


So still insisting that the U.S. built 100 secret bio weapon labs in Ukraine?

Has great russian army found ANY evidence yet?

Didn't russia have the same bio lab maps as ATS?


Hilarious!

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RussianTroll

Ok that's funny that the laptop is at least 15 years old. An IBM Thinkpad seriously you think NATO still uses those the company stopped making them in 2005 because no one bought them.

See apparently Russia doesn't know this so they picked the wrong laptop for their disinformation. NATO laptops are sold at auctions after only 5 years of use in other words there is no way this laptop had top secret information on it and most likely was sold at auction after memory wipe. So at least now we know where all outdated laptops go to die apparently it's Russia.

You got to remember this in Ukraine too, you are going by what you would think they use in America or Canada brand new state of the art stuff, not so in a lot of these other Eastern European countries. I dont care if it NATO or not. Hopefully more info will come out but I doubt it ever will

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RussianTroll

Ok that's funny that the laptop is at least 15 years old. An IBM Thinkpad seriously you think NATO still uses those the company stopped making them in 2005 because no one bought them.

See apparently Russia doesn't know this so they picked the wrong laptop for their disinformation. NATO laptops are sold at auctions after only 5 years of use in other words there is no way this laptop had top secret information on it and most likely was sold at auction after memory wipe. So at least now we know where all outdated laptops go to die apparently it's Russia.

You got to remember this in Ukraine too, you are going by what you would think they use in America or Canada brand new state of the art stuff, not so in a lot of these other Eastern European countries. I dont care if it NATO or not. Hopefully more info will come out but I doubt it ever will

NOBODY would EVER use that device to run a secret bio lab.


ANYWHERE.


Or it wouldn't be secret for very long.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


So still insisting that the U.S. built 100 secret bio weapon labs in Ukraine?

Has great russian army found ANY evidence yet?

Didn't russia have the same bio lab maps as ATS?


Hilarious!

Good evening Mr Wiki 👋


I'm pretty sure I've never posted anything about bio weapons labs before but I could be wrong because you usually know everything.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


So still insisting that the U.S. built 100 secret bio weapon labs in Ukraine?

Has great russian army found ANY evidence yet?

Didn't russia have the same bio lab maps as ATS?


Hilarious!

Good evening Mr Wiki 👋


I'm pretty sure I've never posted anything about bio weapons labs before but I could be wrong because you usually know everything.

You are RIGHT now posting in a thread on the imaginary U.S. bio weapon labs in Ukraine.

What exactly did you think you were posting about?

Perhaps you are lost?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RussianTroll

Ok that's funny that the laptop is at least 15 years old. An IBM Thinkpad seriously you think NATO still uses those the company stopped making them in 2005 because no one bought them.

See apparently Russia doesn't know this so they picked the wrong laptop for their disinformation. NATO laptops are sold at auctions after only 5 years of use in other words there is no way this laptop had top secret information on it and most likely was sold at auction after memory wipe. So at least now we know where all outdated laptops go to die apparently it's Russia.

You got to remember this in Ukraine too, you are going by what you would think they use in America or Canada brand new state of the art stuff, not so in a lot of these other Eastern European countries. I dont care if it NATO or not. Hopefully more info will come out but I doubt it ever will

NOBODY would EVER use that device to run a secret bio lab.


ANYWHERE.


Or it wouldn't be secret for very long.

Nobody said they were running an actual lab with it. Time will tell, I'm not gonna automatically brush it off though because that's what they are expecting people to do. That's why Blinken came out a month ago and started talking about "false flags" because if anything happened they could always say "we told you so" whether it's true or not.

You still won't admit (because you don't know or just won't except it) that the Nationalists/neo nazis have a great deal of power and fear over the general population of Ukraine/DPR/LPR, that extends right into the armed services and other governmental agencies like police forces in Ukraine.