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What IF... A One World Government is a step Forward?

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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: putnam6
Slow down there Caligula... epicurean is fine but does that fit into a totalitarian state?


Yes. Everyone will be forced to eat caviar, truffles and ortolan.


I like caviar... and truffes




posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: YouSir


We are not remotely designed for utopia…

This is a good, though poignant point.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

What about countries like Iran? Theocracies.

And what would you do with our US Constitution?



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Akragon

And what would you do with our US Constitution?



Ummm…haven’t you been paying attention…

“It’s just a piece of paper”

Uttered by the puppet that ushered in…to much aplomb…and a standing ovation…”the Patriot Act”

George the…”mission accomplished” Bush…

Another fine Republican…





YouSir



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

'Alas Babylon".



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Akragon

if we could just make "greed" not a thing, we could have what you suggest. We can't, so we can't.


Indeed. But then we wouldn't actually need a one world government, because everything descriped in the OP would just happen organically.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Akragon

No one is poor, because we don't need money or wealth... everything is given freely, which could easily be done because the 1% have all the money anyways... more then enough for every person on this planet to be a millionaire.



Very Star Trek socialistic utopia you suggest. The problem is when you add humans actually to the mix. We are our own worst enemy in never actually reaching something like you suggest. The big problem is that humans are greedy even when they have everything, and they get very lazy when they can skip out of the challenges of life. Why become a doctor if it is the same as a barista, or better yet, just do nothing. You will see a small percentage of people doing things because of some altruistic motive, but most are not like that and if they didn't need to work to feed themselves they wouldn't do it. We have seen it time and time again with communism that can never reach that utopia state it so desires. We see it in America with the most subsidized group is still the poorest, American Indian. The second most subsidized group is the second poorest, American Blacks. The wealthiest is the least subsidized group, American Asians followed by Whites.

Humans actually need that challenge for survival otherwise as a culture we grow fat, lazy and dull. Its 1 million years of instinct...



edit on 7-3-2022 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

As so many here constantly tell us, this will not work yet what they suggest will work ,that which has gotten us here where we are now has put us on the brink where nothing but drastic solutions might help.

Those who struggle against one world argue in many cases that the ''bullies'' the ''elite'' the authoritarians will design it and be in charge of it. To that I say ''wow, that's some really insightful thinking and very observant''

These folk argue that it will be the way the elite want it and not how ''we'' want it. Yet I say that the elite have asked us now for decades and decades what we want to make you happy and it seems the majority of us reply, ''to be entertained''. So they asked us again, ''what will entertain you'' and at the same time allow us to make a profit so we can entertain you better.

They have published for us over the last few centuries books and newsprint. Over the last century they have filmed thousands upon thousands of movies asking us which of these do you like. They have broadcast radio programs on multiple channels for a century asking us what kind of music do you like. This kind or that kind or something other. For the last half century or so, they have beamed into our homes television shows of varying content. And now they offer us in addition to all of that the internet which brings us entertainment every hour of every day of each and every week.
Now we can all watch our movies and listen to our music and view our sitcoms from the convenience of our hand held devices. Oh, and don't forget the games and games and games.

And they said, vote. Vote with your choices of what to consume and we did. And how we voted was taken into account and more of what we wanted was produced and those elitists profited from our voting. And then they said what do you want now and we told them. More and more. And we took it.

Then, someone said, ''well what about this'' we want a piece of that entertainment pie. Listen to this''. And if enough people did listen to the small venues that would give it a chance to be consumed, the big elitists said ''well ok'' let's put that out as entertainment on a larger and broader scale sucking it up and making it a plank of their platform.

So we have gotten what we wanted by our votes just like those who practice capitalism have proclaimed for a hundred yeasrs, ''we are giving them what they want'', the same mantra that gave us the mafia and the drug cartels and pornography. We have voted and elected celebrity. Elected Pop- Culture.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 02:12 PM
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Mmmmm….a One World Government, run by the WEF/Davos crowd and big corporate players. Are they not the very ones who have totally screwed the planet and it’s people and created the mess we find ourselves in today?

The old Build Back Better routine. Of course, in order to BBB, you first need to destroy everything, which explains a lot. No wonder these crazed narcissistic psychopaths have bolt holes in far flung places and armies at their disposal, just in case the peasants catch on before they are culled to a more manageable level.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 03:46 PM
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Do those like Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab get to push their ideals on everyone in this one world government?



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

You are missing the entire issue with the human species.

We are motivated by greed. The governing system does not matter at all.

As long as there are some people that seek money and power any system will be corrupted.

The less power that is concentrated in any one place the better it is for humanity. This is why dictatorships always turn out badly, absolute power corrupts absolutely.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 04:00 PM
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We can't even have families united.

IF we had a Neighborhood with no war... Where we just took care of our species, regardless of race, creed, or religion...

We're the human race... one people united......

Ain't gonna happen. Man was made to war, I guess.

I call your attention to Native Americans and all the war they had with each other before the white man came. It seems man was made to war against each other from the beginning to the end of time.


Native Americans definitely waged war long before Europeans showed up. The evidence is especially strong in the American Southwest, where archaeologists have found numerous skeletons with projectile points embedded in them and other marks of violence.

blogs.scientificamerican.com...


And all it takes is to look as well at mankind's history. War is a part of our culture as human race.
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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

You invite debate on the subject as if “we” have any choice in the matter. “We” have no solidarity. Generally speaking “we” couldn’t even network with our neighbor for an important outcome of mutual benefit unless it was raining meteorites. Wherever cooperation and effective social networking are concerned the guiding principal is always....money.

Should someone, even a family member, suggest a plan of action that requires group cooperation and financial commitment then suspicion will be the first response.

“What does he have to gain?”

“What do I have to lose?”

Then there will come the remembered anecdotes of stories told where people trusted other people to their own detriment.

“Nahh. I don’t think so..”

The plan for a one world government originates from where?

The World Economic Forum! i.e. Money!

It doesn’t matter on an individual basis what you think or what your opinion is - without money you are a nobody! Nobody knows this better than Americans: “Lousy crumb”, “Loser”, “Nobody”, "Trailer trash", etc.

Economic control is reaching it’s final perfection. If visa and mastercard can withdraw services from a powerful nation and cripple them what chance does the average Joe and Jane have for bucking the system?

The only way to choose a different outcome other than the proposed globalized, reset society proposed by the giant corporations collectivized and represented by the WEF and the UN is to create an alternative economy. That means living from real wealth - assets that you can see and touch. This means creating cooperatives large enough to stand independently apart from the established “wealth” generating platforms and their political stooges.

This is the reality. Will they “let my people go”? If they did, are you all ready to become a “sodbuster”, losing your inheritance of the wonderful digital economy of the 4th industrial revolution? A life of ease where the machines do all the hard work guided by A.I. Where all you have to do is relax in your city pod thinking only of sex and food and your next run on the treadmill. You will be asked for nothing in return. (yeah right!)

The more relevant question is: What is the purpose of life? Human life. Your life.

I ask this because perhaps there is enough time to realise what it truly is. Any total reset cannot happen all at once. It is procedural. There is enough time to separate from that mechanism and devote one's total energies towards an alternative way of living - a way of life that leads to liberation. Perhaps we have always known where liberation lies but have postponed it because we believed that the governments and corporations and science would deliver a totally material based life of pleasure and happiness.

Aldous Huxley and George Orwell describe the final chapter but they do not have an introduction which describes how and why this future materialises. What the historical steps were that led up to it. This is up to the understanding and insight of the "dear reader".



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Akragon

What about countries like Iran? Theocracies.

And what would you do with our US Constitution?


Once our governing species actually shows itself... im pretty sure religions of all sorts will change drastically

no needs for paper defining rights when everyone is free and taken care of




posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

No one should jump all over you. Any real attempt at objective thinking begs this question, almost immediately.

If people haven’t tried to think through all the possibilities of a global government, including the potential ‘benefits,’ that person is harboring a belief that hasn’t been “baked all the way through,” as they say.

That being said…

God no. Please. No unified global order. Pretty please.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Akragon
I gave it some thought as ultimately that's where we were always headed, though I don't like their version of it, and I've always hated the idea of borders and being limited as to where in the world you can live freely.

In your scenario, what I don't understand was the use of the pandemic to bring about their will. I mean, if they brag about covid being some great opportunity for change and the end result is the digital ID and their other restructuring, why not just do it anyways? They have enough power and all the media behind it to con people.

I hate the covid, the propaganda, the division in society and yet, if they had just rolled out the ID I'd likely not appreciate it but I'd also understand that a cumbersome, departmentalized government could be streamlined with such implementation. Same with UBI. It does cut costs when exchanging all the different programs of disability, welfare, child tax credits etc. for a universal program. So I wouldn't have given that much though either, but then we have "you'll own nothing, and you'll be happy" and social credit and so on. So much they could have passed by just explaining it logically and putting their foot down. Instead, we got an imploding society, financially and emotionally, total propaganda/censorship in the media, growing awareness of their lies and they'll still put their foot down. I see this as crazy. The compliant would have complied anyhow, and many others, who are now 100% resistant, could have been eventually won over by simple logic.

And to be honest, I'd be totally up for one peaceful world, but after these last two years it would still mean nothing as the cruelty people have shown through this makes me avoid everyone. None of it makes sense at the moment.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon


Once our governing species actually shows itself... im pretty sure religions of all sorts will change drastically


Yeah, it's not like we've had religions for centuries or anything.



no needs for paper defining rights when everyone is free and taken care of



If we're taken care of, we're not free.
edit on 7-3-2022 by DBCowboy because: I drank all of Augustus's beer. . . come at me bro!



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: HilterDayon


Ummm…


This means creating cooperatives large enough to stand independently apart from the established “wealth” generating platforms and their political stooges.


This would only work if the cooperatives were small community sized…and they included guilds…




The more relevant question is: What is the purpose of life? Human life. Your life.



This is an easy question to answer…life is an expression of consciousness…and is best expressed through species evolving the requisite capacity to experience awareness of self and surrounding…

In short…life’s purpose is to find expression and to experience…and to express that experiential awareness through creativity…and ultimately realize that it’s potentiality brings it full circle as it too begets consciousness…and becomes that which was causal to it’s initial expressive experience as life…




YouSir
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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

As soon as they come together as a one world power the enemy will now be you.
And you’ll be tracked and vaxed until you are dead.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

The problem with a OWG is it's the ultimate form of centralization, meaning it can also create the ultimate form of corruption. If the government does something we don't like there's no escape from it because they control the entire world. Decentralized systems of power are more robust against corruption.

I don't see why the world would magically become a utopia if we gave a small group of people absolute control over the entire world. Why would everything be free? Who is going to produce all that free stuff? You realize that society will fall into extreme destitution if there is no working class to keep the economy functioning?

It's a leftist pipe dream which has no real basis in reality. There are no mystical ET's from far away waiting to welcome us into the galactic federation if we just throw away our money and hold hands and sing songs like we're living in a cartoon. I'm sure one day large scale wars will mostly be a remnant of history, but it wont happen soon.




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