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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Slavs have been have inter Slav disputes for thousands of years it not worth the rest of humanity being turned into glass for the sake of yet another dispute. Carewemust has a point here
originally posted by: putnam6
Im not sure of the limit but there has to be a threshold for our involvement.
I imagine he's been questioned and pressured by his allies who are gradually embracing a new era of economy and national identity so he takes out his boomer frustration on NATO for making him look obsolete.
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Boadicea
He did it in Crimea.
Crimeans vote overwhelmingly to secede from Ukraine, join Russia
The reality is, he's doing it some more now. Right now!
Meh -- he may be trying... but if he is, he's not doing very well at it. At all.
In February and March 2014, Russia invaded and subsequently annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine. This event took place in the aftermath of the Revolution of Dignity and is part of the wider Russo-Ukrainian War.
On 27 February, masked Russian troops without insignia took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Sergey Aksyonov government in Crimea, the conducting of the Crimean status referendum and the declaration of Crimea's independence on 16 March 2014. Russia formally incorporated Crimea as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol on 18 March. Following the annexation, Russia escalated military presence on the peninsula and leveraged nuclear threats to solidify the new status quo on the ground.
Ukraine and many other countries condemned the annexation and consider it to be a violation of international law and Russian-signed agreements safeguarding the territorial integrity of Ukraine, including the 1991 Belavezha Accords that established the Commonwealth of Independent States, the 1975 Helsinki Accords, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances and the 1997 Treaty on friendship, cooperation and partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine
originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
No war, agreed. In fact, as this conflict progresses I find myself questioning motives more and more. I really don't think Putin wants war, but he will go to war if need be. He's definitely the 'bad guy' in all this. I do not however think that we've even remotely been told the truth about anything. It seems like both sides are willing to loose a lot of citizens, and the people backing Ukraine like soros and Pelosi all the people whom I personally trust least, have some stake in this that we don't understand.
But a vote was allowed, and the vote was officially declared overwhelmingly for leaving Ukraine for Russia. Is anyone accusing Russia of stealing the election? Any election fraud at all? Or were these people genuinely so tired of the violence against them that they had no love or loyalty left for Ukraine?
originally posted by: Valhall
a reply to: Sookiechacha
We really are LITERALLY showing him how scared we are of causing him to initiate nuclear exchange. We have a megaphone pointed at Moscow and we're shouting "WE ARE PISSING OURSELVES!!!!"