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Is Neo Nazis a Russian covert operation.. how could we be so blind ?

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posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: nugget1


Even that small group around biden that actually wanted war, did NOT start this war.

russia did.

There is no war.



My bad.

Peace keeping exercise after peaceful bombing, complete with fiery peace and love breaking out in the streets.


edit on 5-3-2022 by PatriotGames4u because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

Nah... the Azovs fx were the first to pick up arms as Ukraines defense back in the beginning...



posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: Phoenix

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: nugget1


Even that small group around biden that actually wanted war, did NOT start this war.

russia did.


In a very simple minded way one can say that by ignoring much, either as a convenience, willfully or ignorance.



Ignoring nothing.

Targeting the top.

Accurately.



posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: flice


After russia's 2014 invasion.


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posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: CptGreenTea

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Russian propaganda has been very tiresome here.. When there is a post of different view on issues than russian propagandae, threads are quickly buried by thread spamming by them.. so expect this one to buried soon. I wonder has any other noticed the same.

So now that Russian has closed internet to outside Russia.. does it mean that those Russians here posting are paid for it ? Food for a thought


It has been. Lots of people claiming hundreds of war videos are fake too.

Combine that with the overall "democrats are evil and nwo" threads and ATS feels like a right wing putin propaganda paradise.

ATS is quickly dying out as a place for intellectual conspiracy.



From your extreme far left perspective?

Of course that's what it looks like.



Do you have an example where this is actually the case?

I'll wait.




Or just feelz that the extreme democrat party leftist dishonest propaganda is 'suddenly' no longer effective on ATS?

'Someone' did predict this day would come.

It has.



You're welcome to join the adults in honest & honorable discussions of the issues of the day if you want.

Everyone is.




posted on Mar, 5 2022 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: PatriotGames4u

It's more of the notion that only liberal news is lying and manipulative. That now right wing fox news pundits, like tucker carlson, are truth tellers. That only democrat politicians are bad.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Look at the FBI and their activities in white supremacist rallies. The Poor Boys is an undercover FED front. You can say its a joke and that the events are so poorly attended that most there are undercover feds anyway. But how much activity is actually orchestrated by them to keep the idea alive for their own ends. If you don't have an enemy, create one.
I read that neo nazis are on both sides, Zellinsky and Putins. Nazis are socialists and that's Europe all over. That's why i take such a dim view of socialists here in the US.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: glen200376

I don´t hate russians i know many of them most likely many more than you do, i just can´t tolerate false propaganda Russian goverment is throwing even in here. If there is a lie should it been revealed? I think it should.

Did i offend you ? it was not my intention.
The lies are full fledge on both sides. There is no truth released to us minions.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: dollukka



" It has been clear that Russia and Putin has been using these far right groups to achieve mess in Ukraine also in other Baltic countries. "


No it has Not . Your Reasoning is Severely Flawed .



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Honestly,I couldn't tell you.
I wouldn't believe that water is wet if MSM told me so.
You can't seriously believe that what the Western media is showing about good old Ukraine is all true?
Also,why not let us see the Russian MSM lies too?
It all stinks to high heaven and I can assure you what ever happens we the little people will be the ones who suffer.
If you can't see that posting Ukrainian propaganda is just like posting Russian propaganda then I can't help you.


Yessir.

This is how I see it too.

We have no f'n clue what is actually going on over there, just the good ole MSM to faithfully report the "news".

I'll take a wait and see WTF is going on here attitude.



The recent msm coverage of freedom convoy was just another sign of how corrupt the msm/government of the west are too. If anyone believes anything they say that is their problem.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: StoutBroux
All of Russians television is controlled by the government. I am learning more and more how Russians have been brainwashed by their own government and how difficult it is for them to not know exactly what is going on because they are being spoon fed information from a very biased 'authority'.

Quite frankly, Russia is already at "1984". Their only hope is their youth that WANT TO and can still access outside information so show the real picture of the real world and what is going on. If those who know can put out enough information through the underground so there's some resistance to the brainwashing to prevent 100% NWO, maybe there's some possibility for truth to prevail. It seems slim to none though in the long run.
So is ours, don’t kid yourself.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit


Sorry, Easter Bunny isn't allowed as a source here anymore.



posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: PatriotGames4u

And what does that Exactly Mean ? Are you just Trying to be Funny ?

FAIL...........




posted on Mar, 6 2022 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit


It means 6 year olds should leave adult conversations to adults.

Thanks for the pic, but I've seen your face before and that looks pretty painful.

Don't don't again on my account.





Oh yeah,

STAY OFF MY LAWN.


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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 01:24 AM
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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 10:05 AM
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I really don't believe that Russia is paying to spread Propaganda on ATS of all places, at least it's very minimal.

It just boils down to ego, lot's on this board think they have it all figured out. And their world view is of a very simplistic nature. The globalists are evil, so that must mean Putin is good. Then confirmation bias kicks in, so Putin invading Ukraine to get rid of the Nazis seems to fit that narrative, or American bio-weapon labs, or some sort of special operation or some other non-sense.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 11:10 AM
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posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 11:19 AM
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Nazi has become one of the popular labeling tools just as a few others when someone doesn't have a solid argument or good reason. Just save yourself a lot of energy from a real debate and just call someone a Nazi as some easy path of justification.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: dollukka

To the OP…

Nazi may be the equivalent of “which supremacist” in America.

Both groups represent historical villains.

If “Nazzi’s” were creating problems in Ukraine and looking to build the 4th Reich, we’d know about it. If “Nazi’s” were rampant in Russia, we’d almost certainly know about that at least in the intelligence community.

In either case, we would have known about it…

If I let my mind go way outside the box… we baited Putin with bad intel that allowed him to formulate and sell the Nazi story at home. Putin lines up his troops, they charge, only to find no Nazi’s and a much tougher fight - and now a massive embarrassment when he has troops getting captured and they can’t establish air superiority. This gives the US the opportunity to:

- Financially destroy Russia.
- Demonize Putin.
- Send a message to China (Taiwan)
- Destroy the oil markets and shift us towards alternative energy.
- Gives Western Europe a reason to pay more into NATO.
- Drive a wedge between China and Russia.
- Lay bare the incompetency of the Russian military.
- Attempt to burn the Putin regime from the inside out.

The way this has been handled makes sense if the above is the aim. It also means that Ukraine won’t be let go easily. In fact, I bet Ukraine is Afghanistan 2.0 for Russia. We cut them off financially and will bankrupt them with a new Cold War (worked last time).

Here’s what I can’t understand… how has Russia not established air superiority? They have good planes, sure show off like they have some next-level firepower but here we sit… either he hasn’t taken all of the safety’s off or Russia barks real loud because they have nukes but maybe the rest of their forces aren’t nearly as capable as one might think?

Crazy times.



posted on Mar, 7 2022 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: VulcanWerks


Someone secretly upgraded Ukraine's ancient russian air defense systems and russia was caught completely off guard.

(It wasn't us or any other NATO country)





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