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Lukashenko warns the West's sanctions are 'pushing Russia into a Third World War'

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posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Putin is feeling shamed right now because his plans havn't worked out as he expected...


Better to be remembered as a shamed man who lost, than vilified through out history as the man who pressed the big red button and won...

How does the Russian nuclear system work? is it the same as Americas where it takes multipal fail safes to actually launch or can it be done by the one person? (time to google that i guess) If he ordered a nuke strike could those at the launch locations simply refuse the orders?

Hopefully if it ever comes to that his generals stand up for whats right.


I was reading an interview about it this morning from a specialist living in Russia, but can't find the reference just now. Under normal circumstances the network link to order a launch of nuclear weapons in Russia is actually physically disconnected from control centers, presumably so that no launch can occur accidentally or without authorization. The step that Putin just ordered reconnects that physical disconnect and therefore puts the system in a heightened state of readiness. However, the expert was explaining that the Russian system does not allow for launch of nuclear weapons unless a nuclear detonation has been detected and verified on Russian territory. If everyone in Russia follows the rules, they can't fire first.


Cool thanks for that info, that's interesting, Im wondering what the procedure with tactical nukes is? I thought for American forces once they are authorized to have a tactical nuke they can use it at their discretion.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: musicismagic

No, Toshiba is not one of the companies that are working in the brand-new underground bases in the US, nope, this other companies only have certain amount of knowledge when it comes to technology.

The real secrets of the US are under ground and Toshiba is not one of the big companies that work with that technology and never been.

It was funny how the media were making big news with China stealing inventions from the US universities, the universities are the decoys.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Is funny, you know Russia has done this more than once to Ukraine and it will no be the last time.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:40 PM
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Soo it looks that Russia is preparing themselve for the financial sanctions, they are buying gold, or that is what the latest news said, now because sanctions, anybody wants to bet where they are getting the gold from?

Yep I bet one penny is from China,



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:40 PM
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Well here are some problems they'll be facing.

Back in December 2020, Putin elected himself to president of Russia for like, forever and also made sure he isn't prosecutable for pretty much anything.


President Vladimir Putin has signed a law granting former Russian presidents expanded immunity from prosecution and allowing them to become senators for life in the upper house of Parliament once they leave the Kremlin.

The new law follows sweeping reforms of Russia’s political system initiated by Putin this year. Among other things, it allows him to run for two more six-year terms in the Kremlin if he chooses.

The legislation was part of constitutional amendments that were approved this summer in a nationwide vote that allowed Putin to remain president until 2036. He would otherwise have had to step down in 2024.

The reforms are being parsed for clues as to what Putin, 68, may do at the end of his current term, which is his second consecutive term and his fourth overall.

Former presidents were already entitled to immunity from prosecution for crimes committed while in office, but the new law grants them lifelong immunity and says they cannot be arrested, searched, questioned or prosecuted.

The new legislation also makes it harder to revoke a former president’s immunity.


Among other things, the process involves the upper house of Parliament voting overwhelmingly to revoke it on the strength of accusations by the lower house that the president has committed treason or another serious crime.

The other laws signed by Putin allow presidents to name up to 30 senators to the Federation Council, Russia’s upper house, and to join the Council themselves once they have left office.

www.aljazeera.com...


So they will have a difficult time stopping this man. It's disaster for the whole world if he wins because I don't see him stopping. About the only thing I think may stop him without nuclear conflict, is if ALL his people literally turn their backs on him and his agenda. Or shoot him and put Russia and the rest of the world out of their misery.
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posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux

Sadly he is all Russia have and taking him out without a good plan post Putin will bring the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, Russia is not a small country, they have a lot of people.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: StoutBroux

Sadly he is all Russia have and taking him out without a good plan post Putin will bring the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, Russia is not a small country, they have a lot of people.



That's the thing though, the world will help them through it. Like we generally do when nations experience hardships. Even if governments don't, NGO's and charities do.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: MetalChickAmy

The last time we the US "liberated two countries" it did not go very well, soo nope, it will not go well with Russia either.

Putin is no going to be taken out and he will be in Russia for a long time, even if the rest of the word disagree with it.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:50 PM
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"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive."

The invasion has not gone well for Russia, and just how much worse it gets will depend on what Putin decides to do next.

As stands, the world beyond Russia's boarders appears to be poised to make Russia pay very expensively for what it has done so far.


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posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: BigfootNZ
Hopefully if it ever comes to that his generals stand up for whats right.


Interestingly the Russian military oath appears to be to "Russia, People and my Motherland”. NOT to Putin or a head of state.

If this ends up with troops pouring into Russian territory, then things could indeed get really bad. But if Putin goes full cornered rat and orders a first-strike over economic or political reasons, I can see orders being refused.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux

Yeah, that seems to happen in former communist countries.

Xi in China did the same thing,

Yet we still have normalized relations with them.

Any sanctions?

Not really. If we did, China could, I don't know, stop producing generic pharma drugs, of which the supply about 80-90% of the U.S. inventory.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Yep I would love to see nato telling China to support the sanctions on Russia, is going to be priceless. Biden love china.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

He has to believe Russians are too dumb to thrive without his great leadership.
His predecessors didnt set the bar very high. It doesnt mean he's not delusional. It happens to dictators. They make things so as they are the glue holding everything together. And they refuse to leave.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer
However, the expert was explaining that the Russian system does not allow for launch of nuclear weapons unless a nuclear detonation has been detected and verified on Russian territory. If everyone in Russia follows the rules, they can't fire first.


Good to have that clarified. For all we've gained from nuclear development... it sure is a bugger of a mill stone around our species neck.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
a reply to: StoutBroux

Yeah, that seems to happen in former communist countries.

Xi in China did the same thing,

Yet we still have normalized relations with them.

Any sanctions?

Not really. If we did, China could, I don't know, stop producing generic pharma drugs, of which the supply about 80-90% of the U.S. inventory.


I wouldn't call it "normalized relations". It's doable on a temporary basis but walking on eggshells permanently while being undermined behind the scenes for future takeover by China isn't a desirable scenario. Being dependent on other countries for pretty much all our essentials and non, is getting old.

Things ARE changing. I'm not sure exactly how we'll end up but it isn't looking great for democracy at this point. Well, the democracy we THINK we have lol.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: MetalChickAmy

Wasn't it Kennedy who ordered the bombing of Cuba when Russian nucleur missiles were being placed a bit too close to american borders. History is repeating itself but in reverse. Russia has continually warned that they will not accept U.S. nuclear weapons in Ukraine. If US nucleur weapons were placed in Ukraine the stalemate of mutual assured destruction (MAD) is threatened.

So Putin will clearly not capitulate to any US/NATO threats of this sort. And why would he. Given the fate of Iraqian and Libyan leaders that sufferred from the agression of US/NATO backed mercenries. So you need ask yourself whether everyones arse is worth placing nucleur missiles in Ukraine.



posted on Feb, 27 2022 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: rigel4
I have only one answer to this

Russian people remove your crazy person to a villa to live out his life in peace

We love you ... but time might be short


Not all coups are wrong. Sometimes they can stop insanity.



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 04:03 AM
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originally posted by: rigel4
I have only one answer to this

Russian people remove your crazy person to a villa to live out his life in peace

We love you ... but time might be short


Agree with this post, Putin needs removing, surely some of his close security can see the insanity of what he's doing and threatens to do??



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 04:04 AM
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originally posted by: MetalChickAmy
Nobody is forcing Putin to use nuclear weapons, if he does, he chose to. Nobody forced him to invade Ukraine, he did that on his own volition. Sure, NATO have been pushing his buttons, but at the end of the day, he knows exactly what he is doing, and he knows the consequences of escalating this to a nuclear war. I don't understand how not being able to access money equates to rendering most of the earth uninhabitable not just to humans but to most other life forms?

"You made me do this" is the despairing retort of an abuser or bully who knows they went too far, yet project their blame onto their victim in an effort to keep control of the situation.


We can only hope its all talk...



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 04:05 AM
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originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Putin is feeling shamed right now because his plans havn't worked out as he expected...


Better to be remembered as a shamed man who lost, than vilified through out history as the man who pressed the big red button and won...

How does the Russian nuclear system work? is it the same as Americas where it takes multipal fail safes to actually launch or can it be done by the one person? (time to google that i guess) If he ordered a nuke strike could those at the launch locations simply refuse the orders?

Hopefully if it ever comes to that his generals stand up for whats right.


Would there be many people left to vilify this fool?







 
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