The Anunnaki and the Matrix of Lies. The Missing Links.

originally posted by: Hanslune

So, Seeing I see you are going to try ignoring the math too. How is that going to work? Did you even known you can work out the mass that way?

I hadn't started on the physics... or the fact that rocks DO ring even if they're solid. (little article on Ringing Rocks park, where you can go and whack away on rocks that make ringing sounds)


Ah Hans... we've done a lot and seen a lot in our lifetimes, eh?

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Hanslune

So, Seeing I see you are going to try ignoring the math too. How is that going to work? Did you even known you can work out the mass that way?

I hadn't started on the physics... or the fact that rocks DO ring even if they're solid. (little article on Ringing Rocks park, where you can go and whack away on rocks that make ringing sounds)


Ah Hans... we've done a lot and seen a lot in our lifetimes, eh?

Yeah, in 9th grade I read Thor Heyerdahl's Aku Aku and its been archaeology all the way since then, well in between earning a living and all that other easy stuff. I won't say we've been doing this a long time but Harte and i tried to debunk the first Neanderthal skulls when they were found....

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye


Your misdirect is noted. NASA was referring to the moon, not a steel rod.

Oh my how silly your refusal to understand is, and is an niept attempt to misdirect. Since you won't discuss your error you concede the point.


'Like a bell', not its sounds like that because its a bell and hollow'....lol

It doesn't not mean that either.

NASA Offering an alternative explanation isn't the same thing as NASA proving the first theory wrong. There is more than one possible reason for the Moon to ring like a bell, but there is no compelling evidence that Nasa's explanation is correct.

There simply hasn't been enough data gathered. None of the hypothesis out there are supported yet.

It makes sense to prefer the hypotheses that suggest the Moon is not hollow, since that would require the least explanation (Occam's Razor and all that). But there's not enough evidence against hollowness to be worth berating someone for believing it is hollow. (Especially if they're saying they believe it on ATS of all places.....)

I see no misdirection or dishonesty here. Even though I would only give allseeingeye's hypothesis about a half a percent probability odds of being right.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

allseeingeye's hypothesis

No, I cant take credit for the Hollow Moon hypothesis. All I have done is placed it into the framework of the Matrix of lies. My hypothesis is that the moon was used to transfer water to this planet, maybe others. I also speculate that the moon came into direct contact with the Earth, adjusting the angle to the sun, and causing the great flood by stopping, and restarting the rotation of the planet, in a controlled manner.

There simply hasn't been enough data gathered

I suspect that is by design. NASA is sitting on so much information now that they should be a division in the NSA ! Why haven't they been back? Because they have all the information they need! Why did they do the Seismograph tests in the first place, if they didn't suspect something, in the first place. The fact is the NSA and NASA are holding no secrets what so ever about the Moon, Right? Right?

I read something interesting of late that "Rings" true with me (pun intended).

In the "forbidden" gnostic gospels that have begun to emerge from antiquity, we find we have actually been divinely invited to seek the truth and ask questions, because the truth is never marred or harmed by questions. Asking questions only serves to make the truth shine brighter. One might wonder into which direction we should begin a search for the truth at this hour when the truth about anything is very hard to come by. According to the gnostic gospels, the answer from above seems to have been, "go within," because there is something within that awaits discovery.

Which brings up, ancient writings. You can look at them in one of two ways. Best effort to be truthful as to the recording of events, or, nothing but myths and fairy tales. We are told by main stream there were no societies prior to Sumeria. For me, I choose the first. There are pearls of truth in those stories, and for me they do shine very brightly.

I have no interest what so ever in "Selling" my theory's, I have no covert agenda, other than finding where the truth lays.

Even though I would only give allseeingeye's hypothesis about a half a percent probability odds of being right.

I have documented my reasoning along the way, why I think the way I do. If the reader wishes to engage me on the subject matter, I'm all for it. Those that do nothing to add to the discussion or attempt to control the narrative have exposed themselves for who and what they are. Its as simple as that.

1/2%? That high? lol lol lol Its called a "Long Shot". I'm not doing this because its easy, its just where the evidence has lead me.

Will the truth set us free?

I did a bit of research into "ringing rocks"

en.wikipedia.org...

They are extremely rare. If the Moon were composed in a manner like that, it would require an explanation. Not quite as much explanation as hollowness, but still an explanation. Also I don't think it rings quite as much as those rocks do.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
My hypothesis is that the moon was used to transfer water to this planet, maybe others.

The only problem with this is you don't really need to carry water inside of anything in outer space. Just freeze it and it will stay frozen, for the most part. Especially in interstellar space, where there's no bright light shining on it.

If you want animals to be living in that water, however, then you'll need to keep it in liquid form.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

The only problem with this is you don't really need to carry water inside of anything in outer space. Just freeze it and it will stay frozen, for the most part. Especially in interstellar space, where there's no bright light shining on it.

If you want animals to be living in that water, however, then you'll need to keep it in liquid form.

You could be forgiven to think this way. But water in space is a tricky thing.

When we see the water experiment on the space station we see water pull itself into a sphere due to capillary attraction. The temp is average, and the air pressure similar to earths. But remove the air pressure, and the water will boil away. This is why those big snow balls we call comets have their tail.

Well, the temperature of space is, at its coldest, just the temperature of the leftover glow from the Big Bang. This radiation, known as the Cosmic Microwave Background, bathes the entire Universe in a temperature of only 2.7 Kelvin. That's less than 3 degrees above absolute zero, or -455 degrees Fahrenheit! But there's also -- literally -- no pressure in space. So, what happens? Who wins? Does the water freeze or boil?

Oddly enough, the answer is first one, and then the other! It turns out that having a pressure vacuum will cause the water to boil almost instantly. In other words, the effect of boiling is much, much faster than the effect of freezing.

Water in Space: What Happens?

So it wouldn't be economical to haul water without some sort of containment. As far as life forms being transferred within the water, as you, would not make the trip in a living form, with some exceptions.

But that seems to be the case with the fossilized octopus (10 arms) being found in the middle of a continent. It could not have arrived there, unless it was put there. And the water that contained it, must have been "Protected". And a titanium sphere designed for for such deep space travel would do the job nicely. And of course if that vessel had anything to do with water one might think trace amounts of water might still be found on, or in, it.

What’s big, covered in water, yet 100 times drier than the Sahara Desert? It’s not a riddle, it’s the Moon!

Inside & Out

A well-preserved fossil was discovered in Montana's Bear Gulch Limestone formation and donated to Canada's Royal Ontario Museum in 1988. The specimen represents the earliest-known ancient relative of these creatures, a new analysis of the fossil revealed.

Fossil of 328 million-year-old octopus relative still has suckers on its arms

Maria on the Moon (1645)

When early astronomers looked up at the Moon, they were struck by the large, dark spots on its surface. In 1645, Dutch astronomer Michael van Langren published the first-known map of the Moon referring to the dark spots as “maria” – the Latin word for “seas” – and putting into writing the widely-held view that the marks were oceans on the lunar surface. Similar maps from Johannes Hevelius (1647), Giovanni Riccioli and Francesco Grimaldi (1651) were published over the next few years. We now know these spots to be plains of basalt created by early volcanic eruptions, but the nomenclature of ‘maria’ (plural) or ‘mare’ (singular) remains.

This is observation science. The first observation "They appear to be "Seas". No volcanos, no lave, just odd dark circles. Today we know there are no seas on the moon, but what caused those dark circles? We know the moon is covered in a thick layer of space dust, meteorite fragments, and a lot of titanium ore. We see the craters are generally the same depth, regardless of the size of the impact.

If, you follow along with the theory that it is a deep space construct capable of carrying vast amounts of water, then much of its mission is involving depositing water on planets that are the right distance from the sun for the water to stay water. Once the water is in place micro organisms can be introduced to encourage the production of gases, atmosphere. In time seeds can be nurtured and sprouted. And the cycles can begin.

If you noticed not all of our planets rotate on the same plane, some even rotate oppositely, some very little, some tilted so far as to say they are on their sides. It would be a logical assumption that when they were created they all had a uniformity in motion and direction, but not now. What influenced them to change? A nudge, from a terraforming deep space vessel? And if that Nudge were to occur in water, well, that contact surface would have had its protective layer of dust and debris washed away, maybe leaving a large dark circular area.

In my opinion, astronomer Michael van Langren wasn't far off the mark. They were not Seas, but, where the moon came into contact, with, the seas. The molten appearance of the surface in these mara's (Cleaned areas), I suspect reveal how the moon was constructed, not lava in the traditional (Volcano) sense.

I would suspect that a rather large titanium sphere, if struck, would in essence, "Ring Like a Bell', seismically. In this particular case the rock, is fused titanium ore.

For those who wish this train of thought remain buried due to a vow to secrecy, or blood oath, detractors, this, is my story, and I'm sticking to it!

bloodymarvelous, thank you for your input

Semi Aquatic?

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
I would suspect that a rather large titanium sphere, if struck, would in essence, "Ring Like a Bell', seismically.

Would you suspect that a medium-sized titanium sphere would, if struck, ring like a bell?
Would you suspect that a medium-sized solid titanium sphere would, if struck, ring like a bell?

Harte

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
This turned out to be the myth of Uannu, who started out life as a human being - a fisherman.
Uannu was the first Abgal (Babylonian Apkallu, Assyrian Genie.)

Myths change over time, and this one is a good example of that.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
This turned out to be the myth of Uannu, who started out life as a human being - a fisherman.
Uannu was the first Abgal (Babylonian Apkallu, Assyrian Genie.)

Myths change over time, and this one is a good example of that.

Harte

Link your information please

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
This turned out to be the myth of Uannu, who started out life as a human being - a fisherman.
Uannu was the first Abgal (Babylonian Apkallu, Assyrian Genie.)

Myths change over time, and this one is a good example of that.

Harte

Link your information please

en.wikipedia.org...(Oannes)_or_Adapa?
en.wikipedia.org.../Oannes
So Oannes is Uanna, who is also Adapa
The story:
www.sacred-texts.com...

Harte

a reply to: Harte

[ex]The only tradition of this period worth mentioning is that which ascribes the origin of civilization to Oannes, a being with the upper part of a man and the tail of a fish, who came up from the Indian Sea, and to six other similar fish-men - a tradition which, if worth anything, indicates the belief of the priests of Babylon that their civilization began on the shores of the Persian Gulf.
Berosus was a Chaldean priest who lived in the time of Alexander the Great and his immediate successors. He translated the history of his native country, Babylonia, into the Greek language, and dedicated the work to one of the Greek kings of Syria named Antiochus

If you only consider this story their might be some truth to your position, but, there are other stories from around the world that describe the same thing. Gods coming out of the water to assist mankind.

Water Gods and Sea Gods From Around the World

Water deities

Water Goddesses & Gods

List of water deities

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

If you only consider this story their might be some truth to your position, but, there are other stories from around the world that describe the same thing. Gods coming out of the water to assist mankind.

Water Gods and Sea Gods From Around the World

Water deities

Water Goddesses & Gods

List of water deities

Ahh...did you actually read those links?

They kind of destroy the point you're making.

originally posted by: Byrd

Ahh...did you actually read those links?

They kind of destroy the point you're making.

Don't worry - that's his M.O.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Byrd

Ahh...did you actually read those links?

They kind of destroy the point you're making.

Don't worry - that's his M.O.

Harte

It's more like M.D.; Modum deficiendi

These Anunnaki gods, again, I suspect are real but hidden from mankind since the great flood. I speculate they are a semi aquatic species that have additional abilities we mortal humans do not posses. Specialized abilities which allow them to conceal themselves from our prying eyes. Except once in awhile they are seen, but not for what they really are.

The following are some of those sightings. Maybe one day the government will not only disclose the truth of the "Tic Toks", but also of these "Beings"

The world can be a very strange place, and there have always been tales and reports of encounters with strange humanoids. There is one corner of this weirdness that seems to get comparatively little coverage, and that is that of bizarre encounters with odd aquatic entitites by military personnel. These are trained military men who have come across weird things beneath the waves for which their training has not prepared them for. Here we will look at an assortment of such cases of seeming aquatic humanoids that stumped military personnel.

Bizarre Cases of Military Encounters with Strange Aquatic Humanoids

(Question: Could a flood actually kill a semi aquatic life form?)

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
These Anunnaki gods, again, I suspect are real but hidden from mankind since the great flood.

No great flood - you should realize that making unscientific statement doesn't add but greatly subtract from anything you say?

I speculate they are a semi aquatic species that have additional abilities we mortal humans do not posses. Specialized abilities which allow them to conceal themselves from our prying eyes. Except once in awhile they are seen, but not for what they really are.

Magic the finest factual evidence the fringe can come up with

(Question: Could a flood actually kill a semi aquatic life form?)

Yep, if you change the salinity level of an ocean it kills the creatures within, if you taint fresh water with salt that also kills them too (a few simple organism can survive however). Such an imaginary flood would have killed all the coastal life, corals, etc, all river and lake life and a substantial portion of the sea life.

Fortunately it never happened.

Salinity in seawater is measured in parts per thousand (ppt) or practical salinity units (psu). Normal seawater has an average of 35 parts of dissolved salt per thousand parts of water, or 35 ppt. That equates to 35 grams of dissolved salt per kilogram of seawater, or 35,000 parts per million (35,000 ppm), or 3.5% salinity, but it can range from 30,000 ppm to 50,000 ppm. By comparison, fresh water has just 100 parts of salt per million parts of water, or 100 ppm. The water supply in the United States is restricted to a salinity level of 500 ppm, and the official salt concentration limit in U.S. drinking water is 1,000 ppm, while water for irrigation in the United States is limited to 2,000 ppm, according to The Engineering Toolbox.

www.thoughtco.com...

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

we are trapped on earth.
our souls are trapped here.

the matrix is about the earth.
the earth is 'fakke' because these baastard aliens customized the planet to keep us trapped.
they feed off our emotions.

so its sort of true, but its off.

originally posted by: drongosrevenge
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

we are trapped on earth.
our souls are trapped here.

the matrix is about the earth.
the earth is 'fakke' because these baastard aliens customized the planet to keep us trapped.
they feed off our emotions.

so its sort of true, but its off.

When I started to wake up some 40 years ago the first thing to visualize was a black spiders web encasing the earth. The filaments of that web have varying names depending on the age your dealing with. But they all serve the same function, no matter the name. As I now call it "The Matrix of Lies.

so its sort of true, but its off

You are free to elaborate..

I love Science. Real Science, not the political science.

This just came to my attention, and I don't doubt it.

You might want to consider water's ancient beginnings the next time you go for a drink. According to a recent study, up to 50% of the water on Earth may be older than the solar system as a whole. Ilze Cleeves' new experiment at the University of Michigan may finally put an end to the controversy over how early in the history of the galaxy our planet and our solar system's water formed.

Soooooo, how did that old water, get here??? Terraforming, anyone??

Sun is Older Than The Earth But The Water You Drink is Older Than The Sun