UK & IRL relax covid restrictions after MAJOR complaint submitted to International Criminal Court

a reply to: puzzled2

Contemplating waiting for the next one which might actually do something.

Agreed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: flukefox

Well most of that is nonsense. It's a vaccine, it's not gene therapy, and there is an off switch. The fact that people only feel like crap a day or two is proof the body isn't non stop making the spike protein.

So what makes you a expert? Honestly I don’t care. The point here is that just about everyone on this planet was deceived and lied to. If you deny this then you are a part of this conspiracy against humanity. And don’t think for a second that there aren’t trolls on every message board/forum/social media platform etc (like this one) peddling and pushing a narrative - much like the one that was force fed down our throats for about two years now.
You been had. We all been had. Just about everything you think you know is a lie. As this reply will make you uncomfortable, irritated and/or angry you feed the truth that is built on lies.
Good luck

originally posted by: youbeenjoshed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: flukefox

Well most of that is nonsense. It's a vaccine, it's not gene therapy, and there is an off switch. The fact that people only feel like crap a day or two is proof the body isn't non stop making the spike protein.

So what makes you a expert? Honestly I don’t care. The point here is that just about everyone on this planet was deceived and lied to. If you deny this then you are a part of this conspiracy against humanity. And don’t think for a second that there aren’t trolls on every message board/forum/social media platform etc (like this one) peddling and pushing a narrative - much like the one that was force fed down our throats for about two years now.
You been had. We all been had. Just about everything you think you know is a lie. As this reply will make you uncomfortable, irritated and/or angry you feed the truth that is built on lies.
Good luck

If this is a conspiracy then they obviously forgot to include me in it, I didn't get the memo or a check in the mail, and I don't know anyone who did.

I've also seen no evidence at all that the vax is altering people's genes. It's not hard to prove, just find someone who did 23 and me before getting vaxxed and then do it again afterwards, then get the raw sequencing data from the company using a data protection act request.

You can get pretty much any grad student in the field to compare them, find one on reddit, there a supprising amount of forums filled with grad students.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: flukefox

Well most of that is nonsense. It's a vaccine, it's not gene therapy, and there is an off switch. The fact that people only feel like crap a day or two is proof the body isn't non stop making the spike protein.

Perhaps someone should tell the Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich, because he he sure seems to think they are;

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More text, from the World Health Summit held in Berlin, Oct 24th-26th 2021

"We are really taking that leap [to drive innovation] – us as a company, Bayer – in cell and gene therapies … ultimately the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy. I always like to say: if we had surveyed two years ago in the public – ‘would you be willing to take a gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body?’ – we probably would have had a 95% refusal rate,” stated Oelrich.

“Our successes over these 18 months [the duration of the COVID ‘pandemic’] should embolden us to fully focus much more closely on access, innovation and collaboration to unleash health for all, especially as we enter, on top of everything else that is happening, a new era of science – a lot of people talk about the Bio Revolution in this context,” continued the businessman.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It's a vaccine, it's not gene therapy, and there is an off switch

Its not a vaccine in any sense. It absolutely is gene therapy. The whole idea behind it is gene modification, and there is no off-switch. Syncitium virtually guarantees that. Scientists in 2015 warned not to use mRNA technologies because there was no off-switch. If one was found, please describe it. Immunity waning is not indicative of an off-switch; it merely means that immunity took a hit. The gene modification effects are still rolling.

As far as walking back covid lies, I think it may be to cover themselves. Maybe they know that the timeline is near where serious reactions become inextricably linked to the vaccines, and now they want to play the "we made mistakes" lie. They failed to reach their inoculation goals in some countries (US is no where near 70%). This means that control groups exist.
There were no mistakes. It was all planned and its all a lie. If it is actually covering themselves, we will see a whole lot of "insiders" take the fall. Not that they won't deserve it, but it will be important to remember the people behind them.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: flukefox

They changed the definition because it's really not an accurate definition. There is no vaccine in the history of the world that provides complete immunity to 100% of the people who take it, not one. The new definition is just a better way to define it.

You don’t question the timing of this decision? If the change is as innocuous as you suggest why was it made during the mRNA rollout and not before?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Right out of 1984!

Orwell would be proud of you.

a reply to: macaronicaesar

The timing was because of misinformation about the vaccine. Whether the covid vaccine was the impetus is not important, what the change was and whether it more accurately describes a vaccine is.

a reply to: Salander

Your post makes no sense, other than you fishing for stars. Please explain how my post has anything to do with 1984.

a reply to: Wisenox

You obviously have no clue how the vaccine works, it's a built in off switch. RNA is introduced into the cell. The cell machinery runs the RNA and creates the protein. The RNA is used up and destroyed, that is the off switch.

There is no gene therapy. Nothing is altered. Our bodies are not altered to produce the RNA. Our bodies are not altered to produce the spike protein. I really don't know why this is hard for you to understand.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It's far too subtle for you to understand perhaps.

Orwell noted that "first, corrupt the language. What follows naturally is corruption of the thought processes."

Your arguing that the clot shots really are vaccines is a perfect demonstration of Double Think. Changing long established definitions of words is an excellent way to corrupt thought processes, and you and many others demonstrate that daily.

The clot shots are NOT vaccines. That you insist on calling them that illustrates how corrupted your thought processes are.

a reply to: Salander

There is no corruption here. The new definition more accurately describes a vaccine, if you disagree give me the old wording of the definition, and why it's better, with examples of 'true' vaccines that fit the old description.

Sorry, missed this discussion. Not so relevant to me.
If you want it to call a vaccine, so be it. But is a vaccine that has killed tens of thousands of people.
And I think it will continue to kill. Off switch or not. We don't know yet how bad it will be. But heart, brain, reproductive system damage ... who knows what more ... kill in the mid and longer term. Time will tell.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You obviously don't know anything about syncitium. The spike induce it, and its the process of mitosis on the nucleus. This can happen multiple times. During each division, the nucleus is split and the DNA is fully exposed to the CRISPR/CAS9 mRNA complexes. If a cell ends up with 5 nuclei, then there were 8 chances for DNA uptake, which is what CRISPR/CAS9 was really designed for. 1 nucleus divides, that's 2 chances. Another happens and there's 3 nuclei, and that's 4 chances overall. 4 gives you 6, and 5 is 8.
1 million infected cells could result in upwards of 8 million chances for full DNA uptake. How many do you think it takes?

a reply to: Wisenox

Easy to prove since you can test for the spike protein. Odd how these claims have nothing to back them up when everyone vaccinated should be always positive for the protein. Also odd the body stops responding and creating antibodies due to fatigue and that fatigue ends the moment they get another vaccine injection. What are the odds of that?

Even if what you said was true and it did happen it still wouldn't be gene therapy. But real world diagnostics easily disprove your assertion.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: HanSolo791

I don't know of any viral vector vaccines in use, mRNA vaccines are not viral vector vaccines. A viral vector vaccine could be gene therapy. Molnupirivir is not a vaccine, and it does not alter our DNA. I see you posting lots of words, I don't see any actual gene therapy. Can you show me where any vaccine is designed to alter human DNA/gene expression in order to combat covid?

RNA that makes proteins and then disappears is not gene therapy. An antiviral that causes covid to mutate as an unintended side effect is not a gene therapy vaccine.

This is from 2018 so you can't claim it has anything to do with Covid.

Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease. Gene therapies can work by several mechanisms:

Replacing a disease-causing gene with a healthy copy of the gene
Inactivating a disease-causing gene that is not functioning properly
Introducing a new or modified gene into the body to help treat a disease

www.fda.gov...

The Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine is a vector vaccine. AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford also have a vector COVID-19 vaccine. They don't seem to be in favor where I live after their trials on the general population.

originally posted by: surfer_soul

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Motorhead
I'm curious why their legal representation is using a hotmail address.

Surely it's common practice, especially if communicating with an organisation of the stature of the ICC, for legal reps to use an email address belonging to their firm?

Lol, yea.

I was hoping I'm not the only one who noticed the nonsense in that.

All top legal firms use Hotmail with names like SexyLibrarianLawyerForYou11143...

I haven’t looked into the veracity of this court case yet, but I know Dr Yeadon has spoken out against the jabs and his credentials are real, I have also heard of people taking this to court.

What’s really funny though is the pandemic narrative has completely fallen apart, nobody buys it anymore even if they did to start with. It has exposed the MSM for the propaganda outlets they are, millions of people who otherwise trusted their governments and believed in the system have realised what a con it all is, and are now looking into other crimes carried out by the shady cabal pulling the strings.

All that money, power and influence and they completely screwed up. They were right about one thing though. There will be no going back to the old normal. They are finished.

You need to get off the ATS ECHO Chamber my friend, in most countries around the world the ppl have bought the msm narrative hook, like and sinker. The freedom fighters and anti mandates, anti passports are still a huge minority. Although the general consensus is shifting. We are not there yet. I talk to people from Quebec, Canada all the time, they are oblivious to the freedom convoy, they beg for more lockdowns and support the health tax. I wish what you were saying was true and I believe eventually it will be. Hopefully the freedom convoy sets the stage for change and gives those afraid to speak out a voice, but there ppl out there absolutely terrified still. It’s ducking bizarre, but it’s true.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Wrong. You are once again trusting big pharma. The beacon of ethical and moral integrity that uses risk management to determine how many people they can get away with killing and still make a profit, as the core business model.

“In support of this hypothesis, we found chimeric transcripts consisting of viral fused to cellular sequences in published data sets of SARS-CoV-2 infected cultured cells and primary cells of patients, consistent with the transcription of viral sequences integrated into the genome. To experimentally corroborate the possibility of viral retro-integration, we describe evidence that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed. Human endogenous LINE-1 expression was induced upon SARS-CoV-2 infection or by cytokine exposure in cultured cells, suggesting a molecular mechanism for SARS-CoV-2 retro-integration in patients. This novel feature of SARS-CoV-2 infection may explain why patients can continue to produce viral RNA after recovery and suggests a new aspect of RNA virus replication.”

www.algora.com...

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The spike may not be the only mechanism of action. There could be more, and they could have downstream effects of their own.
For example, when scientists attach/remove stop cassettes for the production of luciferase. They first target the mNeon Green gene. Then their gene editing packets travel downstream to the appropriate spot.
The edit for the spike itself may be separate of other edits, and the induction of syncitium may act as their guarantee that the additional edit(s) are taken up as inheritable traits.
The inheritable traits would, of course, constitute intellectual property.
Aside from that, there is no telling what the life cycle of the spikes are. Assays for the presence of the spikes are likely to get expensive. For most traditional assays, the quantity of spikes will matter for accurate detection. This becomes further complicated if the spikes reside in areas or organs nonspecific for the test.
There would need to be thorough testing simply because we have no information on spike lifecycles, and that's because there weren't any adequate long term safety studies.
It would be interesting to see a full genomic sequencing performed on a person's DNA from before the vaccine and another 1 year after the vaccine.