Heads will roll - and they know it. Senior figures walking back the vaccine booster push...

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

It is a joy to watch the entire narrative implode.

Nuremburg 2.0 is not far off, what is remarkable is the cognitive dissonance of the pro-experimental drug/boosters trying to cling to the notion that being "up to date" gives them the ability to virtue signal.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: Justoneman
Don't be lazy and ask me to prove what has already been proven about the jabs and death rates world wide.

I think he's lookin for a peer-reviewed study, not an ATS study

Duh!


Of course he is.

I know what I am doing and why. You guys are just out following some feelz good stuff and not paying attention to the details.

There have been lots of discussions of those links on many threads here. Being lazy is a forte of the leftist and the shills. I have done enough carrying the water with people who don't care what the truth is. If they want to know it they can find out anything and it is likely discussed on ATS ad nauseum. True?

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: Justoneman
Don't be lazy and ask me to prove what has already been proven about the jabs and death rates world wide.

I think he's lookin for a peer-reviewed study, not an ATS study

Peer reviewed by whom?
They blackballed anyone and everyone who had one negative thing to say about the vax/boosters. They smeared them in the media as "conspiracy theorist" and refuse to even look at the evidence they present.
As of now 'science has been brought to you by Big Pharma'.
Quad

BINGO!

originally posted by: Justoneman

Duh!

Duh! Then why are you suggesting someone search on ATS?

originally posted by: Justoneman

I know what I am doing and why.

Yea, i dont think you do. I think you actually have zero clue what "peer-reviewed" even means.

originally posted by: Justoneman

You guys are just out following some feelz good stuff and not paying attention to the details.

Who is "you guys".... not to mention thats an awful lot to glean from a single sentence of mine.

originally posted by: Justoneman

There have been lots of discussions of those links on many threads here.

Then point em out. YOURE being lazy by not providing evidence to backup your claims. So clearly only idiots are gonna take you seriously.

originally posted by: Justoneman

Being lazy is a forte of the leftist and the shills.

You forgot people who claim to know what they are talking about.

originally posted by: Justoneman

I have done enough carrying the water with people who don't care what the truth is.

yea......i bet you have.

originally posted by: Justoneman

If they want to know it they can find out anything and it is likely discussed on ATS ad nauseum. True?

Who knows. You didn't bother to provide evidence that what you said is true.....sounds lazy to me.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Peer reviewed by whom?

By medical scientists. You know, the people who do all the peer-reviewing of medical related things.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

"I was only repeating what the FDA/CDC/NIH/ medical experts told us. I had no idea the vaxx was ineffective and actually dangerous."
And they'll get off scot free after bullying and pleading and lying to people about the need to get the shots. Politicos, medical practitioners, medical administrators who should all lose their jobs and be banned from the medical field and from holding office for taking part in the greatest medical disater the country has ever seen.

I hear a lot of pushback about what the OP says. And I can understand it. But I think something big IS going to happen, and it's up to any of us who are in the know, to explain it to the inevitably shattered public when they find it out. There will be no time for any vindictive "I told you so" crap. Just time for calmly explaining it.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

These statements from authoritative sources are not good enough.

After taking an adenovirus jab , and suffering horrible adverse effects, I know these jabs can be lethal. I'm lucky to still be alive.

Anything less than total denouncement of these COVID 19 vaccines is a violation of the Hippocratic oath.

No human being who wants to be alive should ever agree to receive a COVID 19 vaccine.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I see it a little differently. I think what we are seeing is the gradual realization that these evil bastages didn't think there would be the collective resistance to the "vaccine" that there is. They imagined that by now there wouldn't be enough unvaccinated people to amount to a "voice". Now that they see there is (enough people), and that they've resisted long enough to have the negative effects of the "vaccine" start showing up they realize they are on very dangerous ground. They had hoped that by now they could have already begun the (I don't know what to call it)...the 'justification crusade', saying 'we're all in this mess together (i.e. dying from a bad "vaccine"), but there's nothing that can be done about it'. They were counting on there not being enough people resisting to stand up and say..."WE TOLD YOU GREEDY, EVIL, BASTAGES WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND NOW LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING!!"

They didn't count on that, and now they have nowhere to hide. They can no longer hide behind a wall of BULL# and political rhetoric! They're going to be called out for who they really are...and they know it!!

Bottom line...these people are SCARED!! And they damn well should be!!

I think there is a lot of truth to this. I think that this is one of the reasons they have so relentlessly pushed this vaccine in such an unreasonable way.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: putnam6

Well IF they have been truthful about being vaxed and boosted the MSM problem will most likely sort itself out if the complications occur.

Either way, its going to suck even more to be in health care in the coming years I think, I am inclined to believe unintended consequences from the vaccine are coming and that is going to dmg health care far more than the virus did.

You are so kind to say these were "unintended consequences'. It appears to be intentional on almost every part of the faux media arena. There may be a few who don't know the plan so they can say things with a straight face. We can see those as opposed to AOC and the Piglosi Dem's and RINO's who are just plain liars. They lie so much it is smarter to assume they lie when their lips are moving so you can check that data off as bogus on the spot.

Oh I think there are many who know that they are forcing something unreasonably, but who do NOT know what is really happening. This would apply to admins of hospitals, many politicians, even portions of the FDA and CDC. Many of them know about the idea of controlling everyone through the vaxport but I would imagine have no clue about the potential damages of the vaccines. They themselves are being used and know only what they need to know on a need to know basis.

What is beginning to happen, and will happen is that many levels of government who are just going along with this, are finally going to start seeing through it.

originally posted by: atlantiswatusi
a reply to: Justoneman

I'll tell you what---you link the research that shows the vaccine is actually killing people.

I doubt it even exists. But then if you do find something ask yourself first.....have you forgotten that correlation does not equal causation?

How could such information be assembled in any honest sense? With any degree of scientific integrity?

To further put this into perspective---the Coronavirus---and studies into the possibility of a bat caused outbreak---have existed in searchable documents for over a decade. So just using old science based logic---the study on a vaccination should be understood. Decades of studies into vaccinations also helps give blueprints.

I have stated from the beginning---this is a fantastic cash grab for the industry still dealing with the implications into their applications of opioids in medicine. And as it turns out---a fantastic cash and power grab by politicians.

Someone actually posted on here it will become like the Walking Dead. The level of doom porn wishfullness is perplexing at best.

If you wanted proof that this vaccine has killed hundreds of thousands, then you would have it, because it exists. One easy way is to look at VAERS. And please with this, "those aren't substantiated" CRAP. It's so difficult to get anything INTO VAERS in the first place, but even then, the numbers for Covid are not a steep increase, but a BRICK WALL increase over all other vaccines in the last 30 years. The chart looks like a comparison of Planet Earth to something billions of times the size. You can say that's not data or "correlation" or whatever you want, but at this point, I would have to say that's silly and desperate.

The doom porn of graphene oxide etc., well, I'm not saying it's happening. But I don't dismiss it either. The world is a far freakier place than anyone can imagine.

because something sounds 100% outrageous is not a good reason to assume it's not true.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Context to The World Health Organizations statement is important. Following that quote yhey say that boosters should be variant specific, and are pushing for an omicron centered booster and that onward the same variant type booster should be the approach. & The Pfizer Omicron variant booster will be ready soon.

a reply to: carewemust
Do people really believe this? I didn't get vaxxed and I believe it might hurt people long term. The world will be a weird place if it comes out that the vaccine is a bioweapon or depopulation tool. I can't even fathom actually

a reply to: alphabetaone
Glad you can keep up.

originally posted by: Acknt
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Context to The World Health Organizations statement is important. Following that quote yhey say that boosters should be variant specific, and are pushing for an omicron centered booster and that onward the same variant type booster should be the approach. & The Pfizer Omicron variant booster will be ready soon.

At the rate that they claim Omicron spreads, it will be over with before they can get an Omicron specific booster to the factory. It would would be an absolute waste of time and money to even consider an Omicron specific booster.

But since all of it is a complete waste of time and money, I don't think that will stop them from trying to push it on the populace.

I still say, "No!" "No!" and "Hell No!"

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Peer reviewed by whom?

By medical scientists. You know, the people who do all the peer-reviewing of medical related things.

So, how do you get peer reviewed if your narrative does not fit into the paid programming?

Example: Dr. Peter McCullough, a highly educated, highly published Dr. who is now smeared and belittled because he spoke out.

Many of McCullough’s 600 peer-reviewed publications have appeared in top-tier journals such as the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association and The Lancet. He testified to the U.S. Senate in November 2020 against what he described as the federal government’s politicization of health care during the pandemic, curbing or blocking the availability of cheap, effective treatments. In a speech in September, he told of having been stripped of the editorship of a Swissbased journal after having lost his position with a major health system, “with no explanation and no due process.”

Baylor University Medical Center fired him in February. And Texas A&M College of Medicine, Texas Christian University and University of North Texas Health Science Center School of Medicine have cut ties with McCullough, accusing him of spreading misinformation

“I’ve been stripped of every title that I’ve ever had in that institution. I’ve received a threat letter from the American College of Physicians, [and] a threat letter from the American Board,” he said in September. All because of his “lawful” participation “in a topic of public importance.” He said there are “powerful forces at work, far more powerful than we can possibly think of, that are influencing anybody who is in a position of authority.”

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This is why 'peer review' has become a joke. Scientist are just like politicians, they can be bought or scared into manipulating the science.

a reply to: Quadrivium

“I’ve been stripped of every title that I’ve ever had in that institution. I’ve received a threat letter from the American College of Physicians, [and] a threat letter from the American Board,” he said in September. All because of his “lawful” participation “in a topic of public importance.” He said there are “powerful forces at work, far more powerful than we can possibly think of, that are influencing anybody who is in a position of authority.”

It is all a ruse. The control hammer is in full force. We can pretend otherwise, but we are only lying to ourselves.

Doctors are a member of a club that is bought and paid for by the "Big Club", and they are just realizing, that they are not in it.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
So, how do you get peer reviewed if your narrative does not fit into the paid programming?

Well, it used to be by respected publications.

originally posted by: Quadrivium

This is why 'peer review' has become a joke. Scientist are just like politicians, they can be bought or scared into manipulating the science.

Human beings have always been susceptible to money... it's not exactly something recent...but when you've got a collaboration of 3 or 4 scientists, the ability for 1 dissenter to sway the truth in the name of taking a payoff declines and the majority voice tends to be the one that is commonly accepted as true.

I mean if we didn't trust scientists and engineers and inventors, what progress would have ever been made? If everyone espoused your cynical outlook on the scientific community, we'd still be struggling with common infections.

a reply to: alphabetaone

but when you've got a collaboration of 3 or 4 scientists, the ability for 1 dissenter to sway the truth in the name of taking a payoff declines and the majority voice tends to be the one that is commonly accepted as true.

What if those 3 or 4 are brought to you by big pharma and the one has shown himself to have always been in good standing, of good character and one of the top peer reviewed Drs in the world??

If everyone espoused your cynical outlook on the scientific community, we'd still be struggling with common infections.

It is not my "cynical outlook". It is now, sadly, reality.
If more people would actually look at what is happening, instead of sticking their heads in the sand, we could pull through.
Yet, people like you and others refuse to see it. You buy into the propaganda and the lies because of a consensus.
You don't look at the character of those being degraded or the research they have done. You simply take the media at its word.
Sad, actually.