'Be afraid': Ukraine hit by cyberattack as Russia moves more troops

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Putin probably told Joe where to go . Joe is scared of something putting up blast walls .

I'm pretty sure those walls are because Biden is afraid of us. If the Russians were going to attack the White House (presumably with a bomb or missile or something) those walls wouldn't do much to stop it.

Those walls are not for defensive purposes. He puts them up to look week and feeble on MSM in the hope of rallying SJW's to fight for him. Too many democrats are turning against him it seems. Hah maybe its to keep democrats off the lawn.

a reply to: vNex92

Putin has made his propaganda? if anyone in the world does the best propaganda to make it look like Russia is still a villain because they have a leader that is not a puppet to NATO. That would NATO. Must of the EU countries who are iticy for a conflict.

Russia literally shot down a passenger airliner and then instead of admitting it and apologizing they kept putting out ridiculous propaganda to demonize the West. Russia's own propaganda did more to make them look like villain than anything the West could put out.

a reply to: network dude

Don't you find it odd that Biden asked Putin not to hack into US infrastructure? Did he gift a poison apple?

Perhaps to establish the idea of Russia being a threat to countries because hackers and now bingo.


In the tradition of previous world wars, a false flag perhaps?

To which lengths would a compromised president go in the country where he was compromised?

Would Ukraine spill the beans on Biden if he doesn't engage with Russia?

originally posted by: bluesman462002
Rumor has it that once the wall is completed all exterior
lighting will be changed to Red.
Don't know if it's for Russia,China or Harris Business.
Don't think Joe wants war with either country.
He won't be able to talk his way out of it.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Putin probably told Joe where to go . Joe is scared of something putting up blast walls .

Harris business 🤣😂

Or Joe’s keeping the kids from down south behind walls in the DC crèche...

😂🤣😂 Joe talking his way out of it! Dude.

I’d be surprised if anyone has a conversation with robinette that doesn’t end with them shaking their head in confusion about what he’s mumbling about.

I suggest adding another 6’ all the way around, blocking up all the holes in the fence and filling that swimming pool.

Joe will report that the promise of Gods rainbow is a lie and has flooded the world again

Articles of impeachment have been drafted and God will be dismissed for colluding with Russia.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Looks like Russia is getting some more land. May as well put a sign on it that says "Free For The Taking". The power-hungry get what they want while the little person gets dead.

originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Man this is going to piss off the Biden’s . How will they steal millions from Ukraine’s energy companies if Russia is in charge . The big guy and Hunter will be mad now

Rumors floating the Ukrainian President telling Biden, well "Big Guy" do you have my back or not?

Biden's response "I don't know who you are?"

I thought his go to was Fancy Nancy.

‘Whatever you say Nance?’

a reply to: putnam6

Ukraina is hit by cyber attacks but by whom

a reply to: Xcalibur254
It was both expected and planned for.
If they weren't prepared the country would have actually gone dark but the attempt was foiled to a large degree.

originally posted by: Factory
a reply to: Xcalibur254
It was both expected and planned for.
If they weren't prepared the country would have actually gone dark but the attempt was foiled to a large degree.

President Biden says a Cyber Attack is the "Minor Incursion" he referenced, as something which would not trigger a full-scale response from the USA of sanctions against Russia-Putin.

Russia are continuning their policy of "NovoRossiya" which was first exposed in 2014, or thereabouts. In this policy lands that Russia think belong to them should (er) be moved to them. This includes pretty much the Southern half of Ukraine. They started with Crimea and have sliced off a portion of East Ukraine, so still not even half-way there.

Interesting that the EU is being side-lined, possibly because:

1. The French / German proposal - called Minsk 2 - which cedes territory in Ukraine to Russia (i.e. rewarding Russia's belligerence) is correctly seen by Ukraine as an arse-wipe of the highest order. Appeasement writ large.
2. Germany is tainted by their reliance on Russian gas (Nord 2 et al). This dependency exposes German stupidity and constrains their freedom to act.
3. Without the UK in the EU, the EU is weakened diplomatically. Indeed, the UK has been acting as a friend of Ukraine, while arguably Germany has not!

a reply to: paraphi

The German political elite appears to be owned by Putin's Russia.

An interesting bit is that the Russian government feels free to redeploy troops from their far east for the coming war. I wonder what Putin promised Xi to keep the CCP out of whatever is going to happen.

Cheers

originally posted by: Xcalibur254

Furthermore, Russia's own Presidential Council on Human Rights has revealed that only about 30% of Crimea's population voted in the referendum, with at most 50% of those voting in favor. Which is of course a far cry from the official numbers reported by Russia.

This is incorrect information


Here is the text from the official website of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society and human rights:


Members of the Council, the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation and regional public chambers prepared a conclusion on the observation of the referendum in Crimea

March 20, 2014

The conclusion of several members of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation, the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society and human rights, the public chambers of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, who observed the all-Crimean referendum on March 16, is published in Igor Borisov's blog.

At the same time, members of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society and human rights Alexander Brod, Igor Borisov and Yana Lantratova observed not the course of the electoral process, but the observance of human rights on the territory of the peninsula on the day of the referendum. On polling day, they commented at length about public order and the electoral atmosphere. Igor Borisov made a report on the trip at the meeting of the Council on March 18:

The general opinion of the members of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation, the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, the public chambers of the subjects of the Russian Federation on the referendum presents the following conclusions:

"The referendum was held in compliance with the international democratic principles of popular initiative. Citizens' participation in the referendum was voluntary and free. No one exerted influence on citizens in order to force them to participate or not to participate in the referendum. There were no cases of obstruction of the free expression of citizens' will.

Citizens participated in the referendum on the basis of universal, equal and direct expression of will, each participant in the referendum had one vote. The voting was secret, the counting of ballots and summing up the voting results were open.

The referendum was held publicly with the participation of national and international observers in compliance with the generally recognized principles and norms of international law.

The remarks noted in this opinion in no way cast doubt on the results of the free will of the inhabitants of Crimea.
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president-sovet.ru...



Igor Borisov's blog:

CONCLUSION

members of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation, the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society and human rights, the public chambers of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation who observed the all-Crimean referendum

March 16, 2014

The all-Crimean referendum was scheduled for March 16, 2014 by legally formed authorities - the Supreme Council of Crimea and the Sevastopol City Council - after the coup d'etat in Ukraine, the self-proclaimed government came to power and the rampage of radical nationalists, neo-Nazis and criminal forces.

The procedures of the all-Crimean referendum were observed by the members of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation accredited by the Commission of the Republic of Crimea for holding the all-Crimean referendum, members of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation for the development of civil society and human rights, members of the public chambers of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, who visited commissions and referendum polling stations in the cities of Simferopol, Sevastopol, Bakhchisarai, Sakakh, Yalta, Alushta, as well as in the regions - Simferopol, Sevastopol, Leninsky, Saki, Bakhchisarai, Razdolnensky.

There were two questions put to the referendum:

1. Are you for the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?

2. Are you for the restoration of the Constitution of the Republic of Crimea of 1992 and for the status of Crimea as part of Ukraine?

Referendum participants had the opportunity to vote for one of the above issues.

The norms of international acts guarantee the right of citizens to take part in referendums. At the same time, constitutional rights and freedoms, including the right to participate in a referendum, are guaranteed and cannot be abolished, and when new laws are adopted or changes are made to existing laws, the content and scope of existing rights and freedoms cannot be narrowed down.

The jurisdiction of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea includes the organization and holding of local referendums. Within its powers, the Supreme Council of Crimea, in order to ensure the implementation of these constitutional rights of citizens, approved the Temporary Regulations on the Republican (local) referendum in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. The decision to call a republican referendum was also the responsibility of the autonomous republic.

According to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Freedoms, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the European Charter of Local Self-Government, citizens have the right to participate in government and local self-government, both directly and through their representatives. It is the referendum that is a form of direct participation in governance, one of the forms of the highest direct expression of the will of the people.
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In the referendum in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, 83.10% took part, in the city of Sevastopol - 89.5% of citizens who have the right to take part in the referendum, 96.77% of the participants in the referendum in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and 89.5% in Sevastopol voted for question No. 1,
for question No. 2 - in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea 2.51% and 3.37% in Sevastopol.
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Thus, the all-Crimean referendum on March 16, 2014 became a direct expression of the will of the people, who, in accordance with the UN Charter, have the right to self-determination. The will of the people, as stated in Article 21 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is the basis of all power.
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president-sovet.ru...

a reply to: turretless

So a since deleted report that states the following can't be found using the Internet Archives?

Referendum According to almost all interviewed specialists and citizens: - the vast majority of Sevastopol residents voted in a referendum for joining Russia (turnout 50-80%), in Crimea, according to various sources, 50-60% of voters voted for joining Russia, with a total turnout of 30 -50 %;

- the inhabitants of Crimea voted not so much for joining Russia, but for stopping, in their words, "corruption lawlessness and the dominance of thieves by Donetsk proteges." The inhabitants of Sevastopol voted specifically for joining Russia. Fears of illegal armed formations in Sevastopol were greater than in other regions of Crimea.

The url for the report is: www.president-sovet.ru...

Since ATS doesn't play nicely with the Wayback Machine you'll need to pull it up yourself.

Then of course we also have council member Svetlana Gannushkina going on TV to talk about election fraud and saying the Crimea vote, "discredited Russia more than could be dreamed up by a foreign agent.”

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I gave you the link to the official text from the official website.

I don't feel obligated to prove anything else.

a reply to: turretless

And I provided you a link to a report on that same site that refutes your links.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Your link tells me that:

"404 page not found"

a reply to: turretless

As I said, the Kremlin has deleted the report (gee I wonder why they did that). You need to take that link and search for it on archives.org and go back to 2014 when it was originally published.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I am based on what is on the official website and not on what is on archives.org

a reply to: turretless

So because the Kremlin deleted the report and the only way to access it is to pull up an archived version of the same website you're using you're going to pretend it doesn't exist?