The Biggest Conspiracy Theory No One Talks About

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Thank you very much. Masks are barriers. Period.

Worn by me pretty much daily since 1987. Still here.

Who the hell knows?! Barriers. None, foolproof, fail proof?

Just a "divider" if you will.

*PS. You can't eat your Halloween candy through a mask! (Don't know what the hell thats supposed to mean...but a message-metaphor)

I know what you mean. I carry a weapon with me wherever I go and I have not been shot or robbed since. Proof that weapons save lives and prevent crime.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

N-95 do work. The proof is in the fact nurses and doctors use them, and as long as they use them properly, stay disease free. The biggest risk is self-inoculation taking the PPE off. As to other masks, when the CDC said nurses can use surgical masks to care for Covid patients every nursing association attacked the CDC over it, because anything other than an N-95 just doesn't work well.

originally posted by: joejack1949
a reply to: TrollMagnet

There's some evidence in favor of using masks to reduce the risk of respiratory viruses. My personal stance is, if wearing a mask indoors reduces the risk of transmission even by a fraction, I don't mind wearing it. It takes almost zero effort.

Well that makes no sense. The R-naught number is what matters. If you will spread something to 2 or 3 people for every person who catches it, then you could reduce the load by 10% and not make the tiniest dent. Its MATH. Omicron they say is spread to like 6 or 7 people.

In reality, you dont even get close to reducing 10%, or 5% with a N95. Every breath you exhale has about 500,000 virons. You exhale something between like 5 -8 full breaths per minute. Does your mask get heavier from all the stuff it catches? NO, it does not. It has no tank, no capacity, nothing to hold what you think you are stopping If you are inside a room with someone more than a minute or two, the viral concentration in the room will be too high for any make believe mask to make even the tiniest dent. NOTHING stays in your mask. If you think it does, what is the capacity of said mask?

If you think the argument I posted is the only argument, you would be mistaken. I was trying to keep it short. I could go on and on. This is why you see no impact at all of mask being worn in any zip code across the entire country. It does not matter how many people do it. There is no result to support masking after almost two years because it does not exist. If it did, 3M would have been all over the data with their marketing department and we would never hear the end of it, but 3M proved what I am saying true decades ago.

Those of use who use math a lot already have understood this since way before 2020.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TrollMagnet

N-95 do work. The proof is in the fact nurses and doctors use them, and as long as they use them properly, stay disease free. The biggest risk is self-inoculation taking the PPE off. As to other masks, when the CDC said nurses can use surgical masks to care for Covid patients every nursing association attacked the CDC over it, because anything other than an N-95 just doesn't work well.

Well that's pretty weird, since 3M DOES NOT List them for the healthcare industry. I guess you need to explain to them they actually work for that. Maybe they will hire you.

Don't believe the math, trust in your faith regardless of the evidence?

a reply to: TrollMagnet

If you understood math I suspect you might have read the medical studies that advocate mask-wearing. Normally there is a large crowd trolling for "PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL ARTICLES." However, those exist, and contradict your fee-fee-feelings, so I'm not surprised they haven't been mentioned.

a reply to: network dude

As well. EDC 357 magnum in my retirement. Diff f.arms every day since 1975(?) Miami Dade.

An EMT...I.have.never.drawn.my.weapon.on.anyone..in all these years.

There are soooo many barriers in life. I think ignorance in the world, is one the greatest. Thnx, N.D.


PS I can't breathe through masks either anymore really!!!!!!!!!!

We've digressed of orig topic..sorry. Carry on..

originally posted by: Hecate666
You do that but do it for yourself, don't give me spiel you are doing it for others, because those others also have the freedom to wear a moist cloth over their main respiratory imputs if they so wish.
If they and you believe in that then you can feel safe. End of story.

That is spot on. If it was actually about protection

Barriers to what exactly? Air? You can breath in them. Viruses go wherever air goes. They are smaller than the molecules that make your farts smell. They are so small you cannot even see them with a normal microscope. If you are breathing air that's unfiltered below 0.4 micron, and there is a virus, you are breathing virus. Like the way mosquitoes fly through chain link fences, only the viruses actually have bigger holes than the mosquitoes would flying through a chain link fence. It would be more like a mosquito flying through a garage door.

PERIOD, END OF STORY

a reply to: TrollMagnet

The disconnect from healthy respiration has never been more clear.

People as a whole do not use their diaphragm properly, I like to challenge people to do so with a mask on!

a reply to: TrollMagnet

Well that's weird since we spend 12 hours non stop breathing in covid units and don't get covid. Maybe nurses have magic?

a reply to: elementalgrove

People as a whole do not use their diaphragm properly, I like to challenge people to do so with a mask on!

I've become aware of my shallow breathing and am trying to correct it. You are right it is very hard to do with a mask, and it almost makes you want to hyperventilate.

PS. I'm one of the few that don't mind masks, I however don't believe it or the vaccine should be forced.

The masks are a distraction, to keep us quibbling about trivialities, while the Scammers™ are stealing EVERYTHING™.

It's not Televised™...

after a Second of thought - I'm done with masking lol

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originally posted by: joejack1949
a reply to: TrollMagnet

If you understood math I suspect you might have read the medical studies that advocate mask-wearing. Normally there is a large crowd trolling for "PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL ARTICLES." However, those exist, and contradict your fee-fee-feelings, so I'm not surprised they haven't been mentioned.

I understand math a great deal more than most people who enjoy math. You are pushing other people's baseless arguments and citing their conclusions without supporting evidence, because YOU did not require evidence to believe them. Well I DO, and so does every other person who cares about the scientific method in the world.

How does a hole 0.4 x 0.4 stop something that's 0.1 x 0.1? This is basic arithmetic, NOT trigonometry. You believe things that arent true because you lack the education to know why it is wrong. Plain and simple.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Well that's weird since we spend 12 hours non stop breathing in covid units and don't get covid. Maybe nurses have magic?

Its called immunity. Did you fail biology You do NOT always get sick when you gain immunity. You still get immunity however. There is also cross reactivity between COVID and other coronaviruses.

Your argument is baseless. You dont even know the rate of exposure. Why do medical facilities need vaxxed employees if they have these magic masks that stop viruses?

You have no scientific argument, you have faith. Learn the difference. You lack evidence. I do not

a reply to: JAGStorm

It does make you hyperventilate. Exercise in one, and you'll see. I use deep breathing to get my breath under control, but it doesn't work in a mask.

I stopped debating the mask issue a long time ago. It's ridiculous in so many different ways. What annoys me most is why people even debate the size of the particles which can get through the mask... 95% of people are wearing a mask which have massive air gaps around the sides of the mask, unless it has an air-tight fit around the face. So the properties of the material doesn't matter at all, it's a stupid issue to focus on.

Even back in late 2020 there was very clear evidence to show that masks had no perceivable impact on the pandemic in any country where mask mandates were enforced. That's why I just face palm myself when I see these new bogus studies which claim masks work. It's exactly the same type of "data science" we see used to prove the world will end in a few years from climate change.

All one needs do is apply some very basic logic. Masks don't filter all the air you breath in, a large portion of that air gets sucked in from the air gap around the mask. Moreover, Covid is primarily a virus which propagates via surface contact, we've known that from the very beginning. We didn't even know Covid was air borne in the beginning, in fact experts denied it because they didn't want to cause panic.

The other completely ridiculous thing about a mask is you need to constantly touch it, meaning your hands come into close contact with your face, and as we know Covid can certainly spread via contact. Not to mention the mask will quickly become a breeding ground for bacteria after a small time of being used. Plus it does inhibit your ability to breath fresh air regardless of what anyone may claim, so constant long term use is unhealthy.

All it does is make scared individuals feel safer. Or it acts as a political symbol for mentally ill morons. The way I look at it, if the MSM and all our leaders are willing to lie about such basic things, then I have absolutely no reason to trust them on anything else they say about the pandemic. A lot of people really have a hard time understanding why I distrust the MSM so deeply... in my eyes they are responsible for our collapsing civilization.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: elementalgrove

People as a whole do not use their diaphragm properly, I like to challenge people to do so with a mask on!

I've become aware of my shallow breathing and am trying to correct it. You are right it is very hard to do with a mask, and it almost makes you want to hyperventilate.

PS. I'm one of the few that don't mind masks, I however don't believe it or the vaccine should be forced.

I am happy with people living their lives however they see fit.

We can correct so much of our ailments with simply breathing as we are meant to.

Happy to know you have been working on correcting the shallow breathing, I am still working on it as well!

a reply to: TrollMagnet

So RNs all have magic immunity so they dont get sick from spending 36+ hours a week with Covid patients, and that magic immunity disappears after they clock out so they DO get sick on vacation?

I will concede this on the recent spate of footballers, hockey players, swimmers, cyclists, etc... coming down with cardiovascular trouble on their respective pitches:



It may not be the shots. I figure it's 50/50, either the shots or the effects of wearing a mask for 2 straight years and then immediately tasking your pulmonary system to be as effective as before the masking of their oxygen system.



But then, I view the human body as a space suit. My space suit was designed without a filter of bacteria laden cotton on it's intake canal for a reason. Putting a mask on your space suit for two years is like stuffing socks into the air intake of a BMW turbo class sedan. All's fine until you put it on the pitch and make it run. Then all of the sudden things are overheating, the turbo (heart) suffers catastrophic inflammation, and everyone blames the new E85 fuel mixture (vaccine).



So I will concede; It may not be the shots at all. But if it's not the shots, it's certainly the masks. What else would lead to a folded increase in heart attacks of our athletes Pre and Post Worldwide Faucian Mandates?



Stop killing people with your fascism.



The lab leak pandemic is bad enough.