CDC Finally Admits SARS/CoV-2 is A Chimeric Virus Deliberatedly Made By Humans?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

This is not saying that SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric human made virus.

It is a ruling that SARS-CoV-2 is not to be used in future human made viruses. It is a ban on future experimentation that may use the virus as a basis.

It's amazing how many people read the same article as we do and conclude something entirely different.

I wonder if it's something to do with the dumbing down of the reading curriculum in schools that people can read the words but not understand what they've actually read.

That bit of projection was self-defeating.

Otherwise you wouldn't need to author vague responses like that, and try to argue the point instead. It's abundantly clear why you are here and what you've been doing.

Thanks for the cooperation, I guess? Carry on!

originally posted by: Spartakush

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

This is not saying that SARS-CoV-2 is a chimeric human made virus.

It is a ruling that SARS-CoV-2 is not to be used in future human made viruses. It is a ban on future experimentation that may use the virus as a basis.

It's amazing how many people read the same article as we do and conclude something entirely different.

I wonder if it's something to do with the dumbing down of the reading curriculum in schools that people can read the words but not understand what they've actually read.

That bit of projection was self-defeating.

Otherwise you wouldn't need to author vague responses like that, and try to argue the point instead. It's abundantly clear why you are here and what you've been doing.

Thanks for the cooperation, I guess? Carry on!

That bit of projection was self-defeating.

Otherwise you wouldn't need to author vague responses like that, and try to argue the point instead. It's abundantly clear why you are here and what you've been doing.

Thanks for the cooperation, I guess? Carry on!

originally posted by: Spartakush

That would be impossible, given a topic that relies on the misrepresentation of a very simple legislation on imports.

I'm amazed you managed to convince anyone you actually looked into this, starting with yourself. Not bad!

What in the world are you talking about?... What "misinterpretation of legislation of imports?..."
To me it seems that you don't even know what this thread is about.

The thread is about the intent and reason for the research in Wuhan China for making coronaviruses more lethal and infectious to humans... What in the world does this have to do with "legislation of imports?..."

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

It's amazing how many people read the same article as we do and conclude something entirely different.

I wonder if it's something to do with the dumbing down of the reading curriculum in schools that people can read the words but not understand what they've actually read.

Ironic how the people who want to claim the research says something different are the ones that are apparently dumbed down, and are the same people believing all the lies about COVID-19 for years now...

Prove that what I excerpted means something different to what I surmised...

Here, let's see if going statement by statement in the research states something different, as some of you pro-vaxx pro-COVID lies crowd are claiming it states...

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In Vivo Infection of Human ACE2 (hACE2) Expressing Mice with SARSr-CoV S Protein variants Using the reverse genetic methods we previously developed, infectious clones with the WIV1 backbone and the spike protein of SHC014, WIV16 and Rs4231, respectively, were constructed and recombinant viruses were successfully rescued.
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Are you claiming that in the above the Chinese researchers are not saying that they combined the natural bat coronavirus strain "WIV1" with three lab made coronavirus strains?...

Are you claiming that the "chimeric strains" occurred naturally instead of being genetically modified by researchers?...

Let's continue...

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the viral load in lung tissues of mice challenged with rWIV1-SHC014S, rWIV1-WIV16S and rWIV1-Rs4231 S reached more than 106genome copies/g and were significantly higher than that in rWIV1-infected mice (Fig. 35b).
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Are you claiming that in the above statement they are not saying that the resulting recombinant virus which they produced by adding the three chimeric (man made in a lab) strains of coronavirus to the natural bat coronavirus strain WIV1, which more easily infects humans but is much less lethal, does not have a much higher pathogeny?

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These results demonstrate varying pathogenicity of SARSr-CoVs with different spike proteins in humanized mice.
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Understanding-Risk-Bat-Coronavirus-Eme rgence-Grant-Notice

Does the above statement not state that making the recombinant virus, with three man made coronavirus strains resulted in a much more lethal and infectious virus which was made to target humans?...

What's more, in another thread I provided another paper that proves that Chinese doctors(the CCP) were already planning in weaponizing coronaviruses against humans.

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Beijing:

A document written by Chinese scientists and health officials before the pandemic in 2015 states that SARS coronaviruses were a "new era of genetic weapons" that could be "artificially manipulated into an emerging human disease virus, then weaponised and unleashed, reported Weekend Australian.

The paper titled The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons suggested that World War Three would be fought with biological weapons. The document revealed that Chinese military scientists were discussing the weaponisation of SARS coronaviruses five years before the COVID-19 pandemic. The report by Weekend Australian was published in news.com.au.
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Chinese Scientists Discussed Weaponising Coronavirus In 2015: Report

Conclusion:

Adding the strains of three chimeric (man made/genetically modified in a lab)and highly pathogenic viruses, which do not occur in nature/naturally, to a fairly benign strain of bat coronavirus which more easily infects humans than the three chimeric viruses themselves is not done to see how the virus reacts in a natural setting. Because three man made strains were added to the recombinant virus. When such experiments seek to infect humanized mice which have ACE2 human receptors, the intended goal is obviously to weaponize the virus against humans.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Except that some people know what an Import Permit Program (IPP) entails, and what it doesn't.

You, on the other hand, misconstrued it's meaning to push a theory that lacks any merit. Which means we're done here, thanks for the giggles. Keep them coming!

originally posted by: Spartakush
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Except that some people know what an Import Permit Program (IPP) entails, and what it doesn't.

You, on the other hand, misconstrued it's meaning to push a theory that lacks any merit. Which means we're done here, thanks for the giggles. Keep them coming!

Instead of making claims you can't corroborate and you keep pulling out of your backside why don't you prove those claims?... Oh wait, you can't. You lack the tools to make a concise and intelligent argument it seems. Even when experts like molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright corroborate my argument you want to claim I misconstrued what the research states...



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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Sure. It's a decent pro who filed a lawsuit and didn't spread disinfo on twatter, which is why I'll have to look into that right away? It wouldn't make your original thesis stick anyway, who cares?

Why would anyone want to release multiple strains, and burn millions of research funds in doing so, when it's clear from the start that only one of them would survive, only to burn out like the other SARS variants? Who's supposed to sign off on that check, an utter moron with maximum paranoia und unlimited funds at the same time? Sure.

But it doesn't even stop there! Nope, they filed some import updates to make you aware about their misgivings, aint that right? This isn't even consistent on it's own terms. Which is it now, are they extremely paranoid or extremely ballsy?

originally posted by: Spartakush
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Why would anyone want to release multiple strains, and burn millions of research funds in doing so, when it's clear from the start that only one of them would survive, only to burn out like the other SARS variants? Who's supposed to sign off on that check, an utter moron with maximum paranoia und unlimited funds at the same time? Sure.

They were researching multiple strains to make a recombinant chimeric coronavirus that would be more lethal and infectious to humans... But here you are, attempting to ignore the fact that even a molecular biologist corroborates my conclusions...

You don't even address the statements i covered. You make generalized false claims, like always, meanwhile completely ignoring what those statements actually say...

Would you care show us what is your expertise that would nullify what molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright corroborates and you want to deny?... BTW, being a member of Antifa doesn't qualify...

originally posted by: Spartakush
But it doesn't even stop there! Nope, they filed some import updates to make you aware about their misgivings, aint that right? This isn't even consistent on it's own terms. Which is it now, are they extremely paranoid or extremely ballsy?

So now you are claiming that the hundreds of pages to which i have given access to in my op were made up?... Is that it?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

They were researching multiple strains to make a recombinant chimeric coronavirus that would be more lethal and infectious to humans... But here you are, attempting to ignore the fact that even a molecular biologist corroborates my conclusions...

You're claiming this is what happened 2019 with the original Cov-2, but none of this corroborates said thesis. This import regulation aims at chimeric variants that were derived from the Coronavirus. Cov-2 is the canvas those variants were painted on, if you will. This is an important distinction to make, and it's one you fail to grasp.

And since you wanna talk about my political affiliation with Antifa, we'll have to talk about your trackrecord of misrepresentations, and outright falsifications in case of national-socialism, as well. Which would be the last nail in your coffin, we're done here.

Good day!

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

So is the Wuhan China lab responsible for the millions of deaths in this world due to Covid-19?

a reply to: carewemust

That's the thesis, and I have yet to see any evidence.

It's a Wuhan US lab after all. And keeping the track-record with safety problems in US labs in mind, I think it's fathomable. But given this grandiose hypothesis, and a clear lack of supporting data in the thread, I'd throw this into the lol bin.

Excellent post, thank you for the information. I'm replying so I can come back to your post again some time to read up all the links. I wish ATS had a 'MASTER-STAR' button to click on a person's post, similar to the WhatsApp star system, so you can enter a particularly good post into a ledger which stores them by date order, so you can return to them in the future with ease...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

a reply to: Spartakush

All you are doing is lying and deliberately derailing the thread. instead of actually commenting on the sections of the research i excerpted you proclaim lies which can be easily debunked, yet you continue to dismiss for some strange reason. Disinformation is indeed occurring in ATS, or is it simply an inability to follow logical reasoning?

Even after I posted a molecular biologist who corroborates my argument, you continue to lie, and continue to derail.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

So is the Wuhan China lab responsible for the millions of deaths in this world due to Covid-19?

There is plenty evidence of this. But we have some disinformation activists in the forums denying what is right in their noses, similar to the lies made by Fauci day in and day out.

The excerpts i included admit that they used three chimeric (lab made) coronaviruses which have a much higher pathogenicity and combined them with a natural strain of bat coronavirus WIV1 which more easily infects humans.

The recombinant (the end result in the combination of strains) coronavirus hence had/has a higher pathogenicity of the three chimeric coronaviruses (lab made) with the ease of infecting humans that the natural bat coronavirus strain WIV1 has.

This is the definition of Gain of Function Research.

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TYPES OF GAIN-OF-FUNCTION (GOF) RESEARCH

Subbarao explained that routine virological methods involve experiments that aim to produce a gain of a desired function, such as higher yields for vaccine strains, but often also lead to loss of function, such as loss of the ability for a virus to replicate well, as a consequence. In other words, any selection process involving an alteration of genotypes and their resulting phenotypes is considered a type of Gain-of-Function (GoF) research, even if the U.S. policy is intended to apply to only a small subset of such work.
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Gain-of-Function Research: Background and Alternatives

So yes,what is found in this research corroborates that China created the virus with the help of Fauci, and even the Obama admin since grants to an enemy of the U.S., such as China, have to be approved and Fauci alone can't do that.

BTW, as to the OP remember that this, 1/10/22., is the date the CDC posted this message in which in order to further manipulate in a lab SARS/COV-2 it has to be approved by the CDC. Meanwhile the date of the notice award which clearly says the Chinese communist scientists, alongside some colleagues of Fauci combined three chimeric strains of coronavirus with a natural one is from 05/27/2014.