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SCOTUS Scheculed For Vaccine Mandate Hearing Oral Arguments Friday Jan 7th!

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posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 03:05 PM
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The SCOTUS is scheduled to begin hearings on Joe's
unconstitutional vaccine mandates this Friday, January 7th.



The Supreme Court on Friday will consider whether Biden’s rules for federally funded health care facilities and employers with more than 100 workers can take effect across the country. A key question in both cases is whether the federal government has the authority to craft and enforce vaccine mandates.

www.deseret.com...

Well at least they have agreed to hear arguments, which will be
broadcast on C-SPAN. I strongly urge all Americans to watch these
proceedings. It appears the major networks are not going to
cover this; the rag WaPo has an op ed on how the court
must uphold
the mandate, but that can't be considered
as journalism.

If the Government can force people to get vaccinated to keep a job,
they can force boosters, they can force any vaccine, and they will!

If they can force vaccines on people, they can force you to take
any kind of injection if the Government mandates it. This is it folks,
if the SCOTUS does not stand up for the American people now,
we are proverbially cowed.

Put this in the mud pit as some people may feel the need to
say mean things, and rightly so. Life hangs in the balance here,
as this is unprecedented and wrong on every level that the
government should think it has the authority to force "vaccinate"
every person with experimental vaccines gene therapy.

If you feel the need to defend Joe's hypocrisy, and think
Americans should be force injected with gene therapy,
lets hear your thoughts as well, but please use the United States
Constitution as your defense, otherwise who cares what you think.


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posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: burntheships




If you feel the need to defend Joe's hypocrisy, and think Americans should be force vaccinated, lets hear your thoughts as well, but please use the United States Constitution as your defense, otherwise who cares what you think.


The last people that should invoke the Constitution to defend one of their insane arguments is the Liberal water carriers.
They don’t have a clue how it works nor do they care about it.
Brandon’s “vaccine” mandates are 100% illegal, if the SCOTUS doesn’t strike them down, it’s like you said….we are screwed.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Do they always wait until Friday for SCOTUS hearings, or do they only wait until Friday for news people don’t want to hear?

Holidays are over, back to work, back to bad decisions.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 03:41 PM
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Usually the crazy talk of "this is it or else" is a huge turn off a big ignore for me. But in this case this will really be setting up a precedent for the future that could spiral out of control. Anytime the government has passed laws that seem well intentioned we see they always turn out abused by those in power to keep the populace down. So here we are now. Beginning of political medicine could really begin. Our Healthcare system is already awful, imagine allowing politics in it and making decisions based off of people's feelings... this could be an utter disaster. I want to believe it won't be, but let's be honest for a moment... Supreme Court is already in big pharmas pocket, this will just make it beyond obvious.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:01 PM
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There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.

If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.

Is that really wise?



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
The last people that should invoke the Constitution to defend one of their insane arguments is the Liberal water carriers.
They don’t have a clue how it works nor do they care about it.
Brandon’s “vaccine” mandates are 100% illegal, if the SCOTUS doesn’t strike them down, it’s like you said….we are screwed.


Tis true, they don't care, and it might be many of them welcome
this kind of tyranny. They are, after all the whiners, the safe space
needers, the silencers of this time. They don't understand and they
probably couldn't even if they tried.


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posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.


You do realize that a comparison with the army is faulty.
There are no "mandates" in the school systems. In most
states even if there is a requirement, there are allowances
made for religious and medical objections.



If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.



False. SCOTUS ruling against Joe's illegal federal mandates would
not strike down existing requirements in schools. It might give
someone ammunition to sue a school district, but that would be
a good thing. As far as the military goes, you join, you sign, you
are not your own property any longer.




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posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.

If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.

Is that really wise?

You are so misinformed and incorrect that it's actually scary.

This is one of those moments I hope that you are a twitter bot and not a real person.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:32 PM
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wonder what will happen on Saturday when 30 million Americans tell the Supreme Court to F# Off?



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
The SCOTUS is scheduled to begin hearings on Joe's
unconstitutional vaccine mandates this Friday, January 7th.



The Supreme Court on Friday will consider whether Biden’s rules for federally funded health care facilities and employers with more than 100 workers can take effect across the country. A key question in both cases is whether the federal government has the authority to craft and enforce vaccine mandates.

www.deseret.com...

Well at least they have agreed to hear arguments, which will be
broadcast on C-SPAN. I strongly urge all Americans to watch these
proceedings. It appears the major networks are not going to
cover this; the rag WaPo has an op ed on how the court
must uphold
the mandate, but that can't be considered
as journalism.

If the Government can force people to get vaccinated to keep a job,
they can force boosters, they can force any vaccine, and they will!

If they can force vaccines on people, they can force you to take
any kind of injection if the Government mandates it. This is it folks,
if the SCOTUS does not stand up for the American people now,
we are proverbially cowed.

Put this in the mud pit as some people may feel the need to
say mean things, and rightly so. Life hangs in the balance here,
as this is unprecedented and wrong on every level that the
government should think it has the authority to force "vaccinate"
every person with experimental vaccines gene therapy.

If you feel the need to defend Joe's hypocrisy, and think
Americans should be force injected with gene therapy,
lets hear your thoughts as well, but please use the United States
Constitution as your defense, otherwise who cares what you think.



Assuming the supreme court declares federal mandates unconstitutional under the 10th amendment, that does nothing to mitigate state health laws. I suppose that's the next appeal process, is to prove in court that state legislation is in violation of equal opportunity and customer protection.


originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.

If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.

Is that really wise?

You are so misinformed and incorrect that it's actually scary.

This is one of those moments I hope that you are a twitter bot and not a real person.


Are you talking about state mandated vaccination policies in schools?

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posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:00 PM
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Get your ammo now before prices sky rocket...

a reply to: burntheships



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.

If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.

Is that really wise?


It depends right now vaccines seem to still be sending persons to the hospitals, it is not a lot but with the unvaccinated, it stresses the hospital systems even more. for example, in Ontario it seems more persons vaccinated are getting hospitalized at the moment. In Virginia half of those hospitalized have been fully or partially vaxxed




even if you go all medieval on our asses, it's taken 9 months to get to the current 63% vaccinated, it may well be beyond our capabilities to vaccinate enough people fast enough as the vaccine's effectiveness is obviously waning.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:15 PM
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The government cannot mandate a vaccination.

Presently the CDC does not set vaccinations requirements for schools. States declare these in both cases. Same thing with OSHA. There are guidelines but Worker Comp and Unemployment come from the states and their guidelines.

If the government wants to requite government employees to vax up it is their right. Hep B and TB come to mind.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
There is already a precedent for a mandate. The army uses it, and the school systems have been using it for decades and decades.

If they overturn precedent, that would mean school children would not have to be vaccinated. That would also mean the military would not have to be vaccinated.

Is that really wise?

The vaccine "mandate" for school children is not a federal government mandate .
The vaccine "mandate" for the military is not a federal government mandate .
Done.
Next.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Months before they reach a decision, like they're doing with the abortion oral argument presented two months ago?



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm



Assuming the supreme court declares federal mandates unconstitutional under the 10th amendment, that does nothing to mitigate state health laws

You missed the point.
Learn to read with comprehension .
That would end Biden's mandate.
Period .
The States have always had the right to set State health policies .



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:39 PM
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I do not see how they would uphold the executive branch bypassing Congress and mandating something across all states and businesses. I am sure Biden’s handlers expect this because Biden said the solution does not lie with the Federal gov-and it is true. I doubt this was ever meant to actually hold and was just to inspire businesses and people to take more shots.

Once the Supreme Court strikes it down you will probably start to see states become more draconian. Possibly even requiring passes to come into the state or through the state. They’re itching to try and make vaccine passports necessary for domestic flights though again, they would need Congress for that and Congress is too divided.

Never really appreciated the Founders wisdom in crafting this government. I guess I never needed to fully appreciate it. They knew what tyranny looked like.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

If this is allowed, how long until they take your blood or even an organ for 'the public good'?
Sick people will justify anything their sick minds wants.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
The government cannot mandate a vaccination.

Presently the CDC does not set vaccinations requirements for schools. States declare these in both cases. Same thing with OSHA. There are guidelines but Worker Comp and Unemployment come from the states and their guidelines.

If the government wants to requite government employees to vax up it is their right. Hep B and TB come to mind.



The federal government can probably get away with mandating federal employees to get vaccinated. But the executive branch cannot override Congress and the states to establish health guidelines for private businesses in the respective states. It is ludicrous. Everyone knows that it is ludicrous.



posted on Jan, 3 2022 @ 05:54 PM
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But this isn't a true vaccine?




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