Life Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Those Aged 18-64, Not Classified As Covid-19 Deaths

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
To add to my previous post, could there be a tie in with the vaccine? You can't necessarily rule it out but I don't believe that the vaccine is killing people at a high rate. Sure, I do believe that some have had a very unfortunate reaction. I could be very wrong on this.

It's certainly contributed.

All the data will take years to compile. Based on what we've seen so far I suspect the cutoff for vaccines being more harmful than COVID, minus comorbidity, will be between 45 and 55.

Just with the data we have it is a near certainty that the vaccine is more harmful than COVID for those 30 and under and an absolute certainty for those under 18, but it will get worse as more boosters become required for "fully" vaccinated status.

I can't seem to decide what would explain this number. Although, I agree that COVID became the priority and sick people were going untreated is a big contribution. Still, it's a huge number.

Other possibilities:

1) The insurance industry can't be trusted with their published statistics

2) COVID is so much worse than we thought and there's a conspiracy by healthcare to under-report the cases to prevent mass-panic

3) An alternative conspiracy theory that COVID was deliberately created specifically to kill off the weakest/least-resistant among us

Will we ever know the truth?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I think that, combined with the sharp increase in suicides and homicides would probably account for most of it.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
I can't seem to decide what would explain this number. Although, I agree that COVID became the priority and sick people were going untreated is a big contribution. Still, it's a huge number.

Other possibilities:

1) The insurance industry can't be trusted with their published statistics

2) COVID is so much worse than we thought and there's a conspiracy by healthcare to under-report the cases to prevent mass-panic

3) An alternative conspiracy theory that COVID was deliberately created specifically to kill off the weakest/least-resistant among us

Will we ever know the truth?

Orrrr...... something these people (working age and working with life insurance) have put into their bodies is killing them...

These deaths were for people of all ages, however, while the information referenced by Davison was for working-age people who are employees of businesses with group life insurance policies....

The number of hospitalizations in the state is now higher than before the COVID-19 vaccine was introduced a year ago, and in fact is higher than it’s been in the past five years, Dr. Lindsay Weaver, Indiana’s chief medical officer, said at a news conference with Gov. Eric Holcomb on Wednesday.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
2) COVID is so much worse than we thought and there's a conspiracy by healthcare to under-report the cases to prevent mass-panic

No, no, no...

It is quite simply mass murder, by a combination of:

a) allowing those that got really sick to go untreated (except with remdesivir, that was worse for many than not being treated at all) as well as sending sick people into old folks homes where the most vulnerable of all lived and couldn't escape,

b) refusing to treat those that needed it (because, you know, lockdowns and flatten the curve and stuff), and

c) jabs that are worse than the sickness

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

What happens when the government takes our health into its inept and fumbling (and that's being nice, assuming it's not purposeful) hands.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Too many hospitals refusing treatment for unvaccinated people.

This statement is misleading. EMTALA is very clear on this topic. If you need emergency care, you will not be denied service for any reason. No. Matter. What.

However, if a patient is stable (not in need of emergency treatment) they can be legally be denied medical service or discharged. A patient is considered in a stable condition if they are conscious and alert, an immediately threatening conditions have been treated to the facility's best abilities, and the patient is able to provide their own self-care (mobility, feeding, hygiene, etc...).

I think others in the thread have hinted at it, vis a vis the doom porn that our government and MSM have pedaled incessantly for the past year, but it has been quietly reported (depending from whom you get your reporting) that suicide rates during the pandemic have shot through the roof.

Some folks have gone so far as to suggest that, when this COVID affair is done and dusted, by which I mean the fear factor either wears off the public, or the public votes out/subdues the voices that are amplifying the panic, the lasting legacy of this moment in history will be the psychological harm done, and the mental health damage that was inflicted, most especially on our young people

Keep an eye on these figures. This is just the start. Deaths will creep up, but there will be many causes. We will all know the root cause, but official recognition will likely never come.

If the deaths ramp up too quickly and the reason dawns on the masses, then it won’t be a zombie apocalypse, but it might as well be. THAT will usher in a great reset.

Apologies, double post, not even a variant.

Denial is very common... and is reality warping.

I assume we do not have the information that convinced so many to do this, but the ends cannot justify these means.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

First, it's a 40% increase not 40% of the population, so the numbers, while scary are not doom-scary.

Second, most every hospital now requires a covid test prior to a surgical treatment (except critical) so there is already a built-in delay to almost every non-emergent surgical treatment.

Ok my friend.
So it's a 40% increase in the death rate then...

How about you go to the below website and start tabulating the death rate, amounts of deaths, and life expectancy....

www.ssa.gov...

After all, if the death rate has increased by 40% then the life expectancy has also decreased by 40%...

Life expectancy of a male at birth is 76.23 years. Reduce that by 40% and you get 45.738 years.
Life expectancy of a female at birth is 71.28 years. Reduce that by 40% and you get 48.768 years.

But lets go to the 18 year olds...

18 year old male rest of life expectancy is 58.97. Reduced by 40% is 35.382 years left to live after 18 years old.
18 year old female rest of life expectancy is 63.89. Reduced by 40% is 38.334 years left to live after 18 years old.

64 year old male rest of life expectancy is 18.81. Reduced by 40% is 11.286 years left to live after 64 years old.
64 year old female rest of life expectancy is 21.51. Reduced by 40% is 12.906 years left to live after 64 years old.

But lets be serious here.

If you are 18 years old and your life expectancy drops 40%...
Male: 18 + 35.382 = 53.382 years old at death
Female: 18 + 38.334 = 56.334 years old at death

18 year olds double jabbed wont end up living to 64....

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I pointed out in another thread how life insurance payouts in 2020 were tremendously higher than in prior years.

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
To add to my previous post, could there be a tie in with the vaccine? You can't necessarily rule it out but I don't believe that the vaccine is killing people at a high rate. Sure, I do believe that some have had a very unfortunate reaction. I could be very wrong on this.

Maybe at an increasing rate though.

a reply to: DaRAGE

After all, if the death rate has increased by 40% then the life expectancy has also decreased by 40%...

I assumed the rate was per this guys insurance company!

The life expectancy of Americans is now to where it was during WW2.

Compared with white Americans, whose average life expectancy at birth dropped by about 1.4 years between 2018 and 2020, the average Hispanic American’s decreased by just under 3.9 years. The average lifespan of a Black American decreased by 3.25 years.

“These are numbers we aren’t at all used to seeing in this research; 0.1 years is something that normally gets attention in the field, so 3.9 years and 3.25 years and even 1.4 years is just horrible,” Woolf said. “We haven’t had a decrease of that magnitude since World War II.”

www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Related, there is seriously something terribly wrong here...

Military suicides are increasing. Theater of War is offering more than just a show of sympathy

A 2021 study by Brown University's Cost of War Project reported that suicides by active-duty personnel and veterans "are reaching new peaks." It found that while 7,057 members of the armed forces were killed in military action since 9/11, more than four times as many active-duty members and veterans — 30,177 — died by suicide. The report noted that the military suicide rates now exceed those for the general population, when historically they had been lower.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Related, there is seriously something terribly wrong here...

Military suicides are increasing. Theater of War is offering more than just a show of sympathy

A 2021 study by Brown University's Cost of War Project reported that suicides by active-duty personnel and veterans "are reaching new peaks." It found that while 7,057 members of the armed forces were killed in military action since 9/11, more than four times as many active-duty members and veterans — 30,177 — died by suicide. The report noted that the military suicide rates now exceed those for the general population, when historically they had been lower.

All those vaccines are causing depression leading to suicide.

I am sorry for your loss. It should never have happened.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: DaRAGE

After all, if the death rate has increased by 40% then the life expectancy has also decreased by 40%...

I assumed the rate was per this guys insurance company!

The life expectancy of Americans is now to where it was during WW2.

Compared with white Americans, whose average life expectancy at birth dropped by about 1.4 years between 2018 and 2020, the average Hispanic American’s decreased by just under 3.9 years. The average lifespan of a Black American decreased by 3.25 years.

“These are numbers we aren’t at all used to seeing in this research; 0.1 years is something that normally gets attention in the field, so 3.9 years and 3.25 years and even 1.4 years is just horrible,” Woolf said. “We haven’t had a decrease of that magnitude since World War II.”

www.nbcnews.com...

Life expectancy is not ‘where it was during ww2’. The above quote says the rate of decrease is. That is different.

originally posted by: Iamonlyhuman

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
I can't seem to decide what would explain this number. Although, I agree that COVID became the priority and sick people were going untreated is a big contribution. Still, it's a huge number.

Other possibilities:

1) The insurance industry can't be trusted with their published statistics

2) COVID is so much worse than we thought and there's a conspiracy by healthcare to under-report the cases to prevent mass-panic

3) An alternative conspiracy theory that COVID was deliberately created specifically to kill off the weakest/least-resistant among us

Will we ever know the truth?

Orrrr...... something these people (working age and working with life insurance) have put into their bodies is killing them...

These deaths were for people of all ages, however, while the information referenced by Davison was for working-age people who are employees of businesses with group life insurance policies....

The number of hospitalizations in the state is now higher than before the COVID-19 vaccine was introduced a year ago, and in fact is higher than it’s been in the past five years, Dr. Lindsay Weaver, Indiana’s chief medical officer, said at a news conference with Gov. Eric Holcomb on Wednesday.

I guess that would be my number 3. But, I don't trust the numbers. Statistics, as we know, are easily manipulated to prove whatever point we want to make. Insurance companies are money machines.