Official german figures from the Koch intitute dont bode well.

Trying to evaluate what is actually going on is very difficult with the MSM obscuring data at every point. The vaccination program still is going on despite it being useless to stop the alleged disease. Countries like South Africa who have dropped all mandates are going back to normal,

This is tending to suggest that the intended purpose for the injection isn't to stop a disease as advertised as it clearly does not function for its stated purpose. It is supposed to be a flu injection, but it is clearly not fit for purpose in this instance.
Which begs the question of what is its intended purpose.as clearly if it is not a flu vaccine it must have some purpose.

Defining that purpose can only be done as time goes by, and whatever happens to people who have the vaccine begin to show physical reactions or not only then can we define its true purpose. It cant be that benign as stated as the under-reported Vears platform is showing disturbing data.

Many have stated that the push to get everyone vaccinated, so there is no unvaccinated control group left for comparison, was the reason for the mandates if the purpose of this vaccine was less than benign.
With the British Government, placing tenders for extra body storage facilities. FEMA in the states has land for storing coffins which can take a few bodies at a time.

Makes for suspicions that we are I a depopulation program that hasn't taken off yet .
But is the "Dark winter' meme something of concern? If these figures are true about immune system problems they might be. www.bitchute.com...

a reply to: anonentity

It doesn't really matter what it does and doesn't do; it's made millionaires out of a lot of people, and brought untold profits to many different companies. There isn't a single large corporation that hasn't benefited from the pandemic. The rising costs of food to medicine to housing to shipping, etc. all gets passed on to the consumer. An added bonus is pushing laws through that further constrict peoples' freedoms.
It's not about the 'good' of the people- the working class are of no importance. The divide between the haves and have nots grows greater with each passing day.

We have become even more dependent on government for our very survival, and the governments aren't not done yet. There will be a working class, and the elite class. Anything in between isn't going to exist much longer.

Even IF it could be proven that the vaccine makers knowingly cause irreparable harm, the worst that could happen is a few million dollars in fines. That's offset by trillions in profit, so collateral damage. Drug companies have paid million dollar fines before for selling drugs they knew to be harmful, which is a pittance of the profits they've raked in from unsafe/harmful drugs.

a reply to: nugget1

What do you mean "working class"?

TPTB want to be lords. They want to go back to something far more feudal. There will be them and the peasants with a few to administer - a small bureaucratic class. What allowed things to get out of control was when the merchant class arose and became powerful. That class - the true working class - is what needs to be squashed, and it's what they're after.

If this is one great big trick to kill us all.. there is not much we can do, they have all the power.
Not all of us can live without a job, house, car electricity, schools, food, shopping, hard to hide in the forest on the run from the corona police living of nature with kids.

I have chosen the vaccine and I have to trust they know what they are doing. If we cannot trust our doctors, experts, and law makers. There it not much to do anyway.

originally posted by: Spacespider
If this is one great big trick to kill us all.. there is not much we can do, they have all the power.
Not all of us can live without a job, house, car electricity, schools, food, shopping, hard to hide in the forest on the run from the corona police living of nature with kids.

I have chosen the vaccine and I have to trust they know what they are doing. If we cannot trust our doctors, experts, and law makers. There it not much to do anyway.

I here you. Quick question though. Would you be willing to fight for your freedom or would that just be too hard?

a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

As of now we have the freedom to choose if we take to shot or not, but they can make it damm hard to have a normal family life with saying no thanks. So therefor I have to trust the majority of the world have not gone crazy and want to kill us but want to save us, most experts say the vaccine is safe, not willing to take a chance on a conspiracy.. and possible bring harm to my family.

originally posted by: Spacespider
If this is one great big trick to kill us all.. there is not much we can do, they have all the power.
Not all of us can live without a job, house, car electricity, schools, food, shopping, hard to hide in the forest on the run from the corona police living of nature with kids.

I have chosen the vaccine and I have to trust they know what they are doing. If we cannot trust our doctors, experts, and law makers. There it not much to do anyway.

They 100% know what they are doing.

The question is, do we know what they are doing?

Have any of them, just one or two even, done anything in the past that should earn our trust?

originally posted by: Spacespider
If this is one great big trick to kill us all.. there is not much we can do, they have all the power.
Not all of us can live without a job, house, car electricity, schools, food, shopping, hard to hide in the forest on the run from the corona police living of nature with kids.

I have chosen the vaccine and I have to trust they know what they are doing. If we cannot trust our doctors, experts, and law makers. There it not much to do anyway.

I'm pretty glad my daughters are grown up, cause their vaccinations would have been an issue especially if they were under 12. Still, this stuff is semi slow-moving its helped me prepare a little better if I have to bug out. Hell, even I have to submit it's nice to put that off to the last minute and at least make an effort. Well at least here in the Southeast US, Im an hour or so from the mountains, and all it is really is a bug-out bag and a plan, just in case.

but I get the sentiment and it's really what TPTB are counting on...

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

As of now we have the freedom to choose if we take to shot or not, but they can make it damm hard to have a normal family life with saying no thanks. So therefor I have to trust the majority of the world have not gone crazy and want to kill us but want to save us, most experts say the vaccine is safe, not willing to take a chance on a conspiracy.. and possible bring harm to my family.

So that’s a no. Did you ever think about working for yourself. A little harder but doable. Did you risk your kids lifes as well so things would be easier on you?

Not being mean to you just trying to figure out the other side. Sometimes it’s easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled. I’m just curious what makes this so.

a reply to: Spacespider

To slightly expand on this notion....

The most vaccinated group of people are healthcare workers. The mandate in most countries, US included, is for healthcare workers or frontline responders. I'm all for a good conspiracy, but I highly doubt that the elite of rulers want to kill all nurses, doctors, and staff that help the common folk survive.

That though in itself shuts down most "depopulation" ideas. Now, maybe the people who created the mRNA vaccine won't know the long term effects and all-vause mortality, but they surely don't want to kill off all the doctors.

And lots of doctors have taken the vaccine.

I despise the idea that Pfizer was allowed a 75 year hiatus on information gathering, but that's an argument for another thread.

originally posted by: havok
a reply to: Spacespider

To slightly expand on this notion....

The most vaccinated group of people are healthcare workers. The mandate in most countries, US included, is for healthcare workers or frontline responders. I'm all for a good conspiracy, but I highly doubt that the elite of rulers want to kill all nurses, doctors, and staff that help the common folk survive.

That though in itself shuts down most "depopulation" ideas. Now, maybe the people who created the mRNA vaccine won't know the long term effects and all-vause mortality, but they surely don't want to kill off all the doctors.

And lots of doctors have taken the vaccine.

I despise the idea that Pfizer was allowed a 75 year hiatus on information gathering, but that's an argument for another thread.

Percentages. They are not killing everyone.

originally posted by: havok
a reply to: Spacespider

To slightly expand on this notion....

The most vaccinated group of people are healthcare workers. The mandate in most countries, US included, is for healthcare workers or frontline responders. I'm all for a good conspiracy, but I highly doubt that the elite of rulers want to kill all nurses, doctors, and staff that help the common folk survive.

That though in itself shuts down most "depopulation" ideas. Now, maybe the people who created the mRNA vaccine won't know the long term effects and all-vause mortality, but they surely don't want to kill off all the doctors.

And lots of doctors have taken the vaccine.

I despise the idea that Pfizer was allowed a 75 year hiatus on information gathering, but that's an argument for another thread.

So are you of the opinion that as a health care worker, you cannot also be a patient?

You do realize that less health care workers means less access to health care for most people?

Not the ruling class, of course... just us.

Meaning more long term deaths.

So no, it does not "shut down most depopulation ideas."

It actually supports it.

a reply to: Lumenari

I think we will soon find out, January according to the conspiracy will be the month when the immune systems in the vast majority are under the most threat. The hospitals won't fill up if they are working at full capacity with the mandated reduced staff, simply because they won't or can't admit patients. Which is another red flag simply because why would you mandate vaccines for staff, when in all likelihood at this stage they would have natural immunity. All the mandate is doing is reducing available staff when the crisis is at its fullest. In fact, a great way to collapse the health care system if the depopulation conspiracy turns out to be the actual plan.
We have the most liberal nation in Europe the Netherlands, having the most violent reactions from a Gestapo-type Police force, when this is supposed to be about people's health, it doesn't look very promising. www.bitchute.com...

originally posted by: Spacespider
If this is one great big trick to kill us all.. there is not much we can do, they have all the power.
Not all of us can live without a job, house, car electricity, schools, food, shopping, hard to hide in the forest on the run from the corona police living of nature with kids.

I have chosen the vaccine and I have to trust they know what they are doing. If we cannot trust our doctors, experts, and law makers. There it not much to do anyway.

This post needs to be on a documentary on n 100 years time of why fascism rises again

Many sat and did nothing

Again

The problem I have with the idea that the vaccine will kill of most who get it is that if you were in the power elite and looking to leave only a small, servile class to make sure you have the things you need provided to you without having to soil your own hands, the last ones you want to leave alive are the ones not taking our vaccine.

To me the depopulation via vaccine conspiracy seems too much like something cooked up by someone who wants to feel superior to everyone else who took it, and this gives them a super justification similar to the moral superiority leftists enjoy by being anti-racist.

I am very suspicious of the government push to make sure that the vaccine and only the vaccine is the acceptable means of preventing serious illness, but I'm not going so far as to think it's because they're pushing a mass death drug.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Lumenari

I think we will soon find out, January according to the conspiracy will be the month when the immune systems in the vast majority are under the most threat. The hospitals won't fill up if they are working at full capacity with the mandated reduced staff, simply because they won't or can't admit patients. Which is another red flag simply because why would you mandate vaccines for staff, when in all likelihood at this stage they would have natural immunity. All the mandate is doing is reducing available staff when the crisis is at its fullest. In fact, a great way to collapse the health care system if the depopulation conspiracy turns out to be the actual plan.

Exactly.

The plan has been there for decades in the Progressive circles... they even tried to start it with Obama and Affordable Health Care Act.

They tried to economically crush the private health care system out of existence then.

Remember Biden on a hot mic saying "this is a big #$%#$ deal?"

It still is, only now they have a "good crisis" that they can't let go to waste.

It also falls into the true power players in the DNC thinking that their voters are nothing but "useless eaters".

At one time in my life I thought that statement was a little cruel...

Lately I am beginning to understand that Kissinger was right.

And for the record, I am now officially shedding the tag "conspiracy theorist."

I now consider myself a "spoiler alert".

a reply to: ketsuko

Traditionally a socialist going to communist country will first kill off those who put them in power.

Because THOSE people will just go with the latest fad... they are too gullible to be trusted.

That is the point in most of those countries where they didn't NEED voters anymore... so their survival was a net loss to the State.

Looking at America's 2020 elections, it is apparent that the Democrats don't "need" actual voters anymore.

The ones they keep are the ones that go about their business and try to keep both the Government and their family happy.

The ones that don't actually revolt... until they are no longer able to.

Marx wrote a lot about that particular transition.

a reply to: Lumenari

No.

I'm of the opinion that the plan to depopulate any nation would be much quicker than a vaccine that could supposedly take several years to kill off it's victims.

The "ruling" class still use doctors. Those same doctors (the gross majority) have been vaccinated. Unless there is some rich conspiracy that I haven't heard of, one that would mean only a handful of doctors have been "hand picked" to live long enough to take care of the elites...

It's kind of ridiculous to think about.
But then again this has all been ridiculous since day 1.

originally posted by: havok
a reply to: Lumenari

No.

I'm of the opinion that the plan to depopulate any nation would be much quicker than a vaccine that could supposedly take several years to kill off it's victims.

The "ruling" class still use doctors. Those same doctors (the gross majority) have been vaccinated. Unless there is some rich conspiracy that I haven't heard of, one that would mean only a handful of doctors have been "hand picked" to live long enough to take care of the elites...

It's kind of ridiculous to think about.
But then again this has all been ridiculous since day 1.

Erm...

"We will release what is in it in 55 years."

Think harder.

A "quick" plan to depopulate America would involve actual force, met with a greater force and then these asshats would no longer be in power, or alive.

A much more effective way to do that is to tank people's immune systems, leaving them to a great big better risk of developing autoimmune disorders and cancer.

2030... cancer in America has gone from a 40% risk to the average American to 60%... well within the growth curve of cancer in America.

2030... more American males are sterile and more American women are infertile.. birthrates drop to insufficient to maintain the population. Again, well within the existing curve.

There will be nobody left in 2077 to look over the ingredient list of the "vaccinations" and say OMG!!! These things are chock full of known carcinogens!

And about your Doctor claim... I have yet to meet a single vaccinated Doctor.

Of course, I am just used to cancer doctors because of the late wife.

They come to me when they have a family member in trouble with that.

A housewife.

What does that tell you about the profession...

a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

Sadly I do work as a freelancer and even still the clients I work for require it often...so I lose work over it at least a few times a month. Just tonight I had to turn down a gig because it was vax required. Head electrics for something CES related. Thankfully I scored a nice gig for the week of CES already so its won't hurt too bad this time...but it has stung me a few times causing me to miss a few grand on a gig.