Grocery prices are getting scary

a reply to: seattlerat

The good news with rabbits is that if you do your research, they can eat things other than hay and you can pull them through. Hay is preferred, but not a necessity if you can't get it.

a reply to: ketsuko

I agree with you and we do the same, this was more towards a local chain than a true mom and pop place, but not near as big as like a crapplebees or chili’s, in between. Wanted to try it out.

And definitely a mom and pop burger joint is a hundred times better than a McDonald’s any day of the week.

I believe the solution they have come up with to tackle the problem is to remove food altogether.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: ketsuko

I agree with you and we do the same, this was more towards a local chain than a true mom and pop place, but not near as big as like a crapplebees or chili’s, in between. Wanted to try it out.

And definitely a mom and pop burger joint is a hundred times better than a McDonald’s any day of the week.

When I was young McDonald’s was such a treat, the tallow fried French fries, the deep fried apple pies, the burgers!!!
It was actually delicious back then, but now I am unable to stomach anything from there. Even soda tastes slightly different to me there now.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I never really liked it, but I've never been a burger and fries person. I do recall the apple pies though. I remember how they used to sell them so hot that it was like biting into liquid hot magma. They can't do that now because someone would burn their mouth, so you can't get them really hot. Aside from the flavor issue, that takes half the joy out of them.

We just got back from shopping about three hours ago, buying mostly stuff on sale from the stores we went to. If you do have a pantry, you can still get decent deals if you shop right and stock up on your usual food prep essentials when they are on sale. But we still spent eighty bucks, but we had three ten pound bags of russets for a buck ninety nine...deer are back again...and we got a couple of packages of cod filets at under five bucks a pound and some gerber chicken leg quarters at a buck nineteen a pound. plus a lot of other sale stuff and of course one package of sweets. The fresh green beans were a buck forty nine a pound and we bought five pounds of grapefruit and three pounds of oranges and a few kiwi. No carrots, they were high. If not on sale, that eighty bucks would have cost a hundred twenty bucks minimum.

That is the way it is going, you have to plan your life around what is reasonable priced.

Last night the daughter and her husband came over and we made a one pound filet of sockeye salmon and a pound and a quarter filet of whitefish along with a twelve ounce bag of shrimp from our freezer stores... plus I made fries made from whole potatoes with the skins on. With that we had some chicken soup first, and some noodles for the shrimp with butter, and we had brussel sprouts. I also made some Homemade rolls from scratch. For desert we had homemade strawberry shortcakes with a bisquick recipe from a bisquick cookbook with local frozen berries we put up in the freezer last summer, the spray foam was readywhip. It cost thirty eight bucks for the four of us to stuff our faces with great food....Cod is less than five bucks a pound, but it was a new years dinner, they were out of town for Christmas. I don't even know what a comparable price would be for that in a restaurant.

Oh yeah, that price includes two tequilla and orange juices for the wife and daughter too, they used quite a bit of tequilla in those drinks so it cost almost two and a half bucks for the drinks.

Once in a while it is nice to have a real good dinner at home. but usually a fish dinner for four costs us about twenty bucks for four if we have cod and fourteen if it is pollack.

I get a little obsessive compulsive with evaluating things, I even figure out what it costs to wash the dishes and for the electricity to run the stove.

Now that I made everyone hungry, I guess I should start baking the shells for the taco salad we are having tonight.

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

Doom was always part of reality and will always be. You and others here make it ‘the reality’.

If everyone on ATS vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, what the OP posted is still going to happen.

So I reject your premise.

a reply to: rickymouse
Icelandic Cod here is about 20 dollars for about 4 servings.
They have other fish they call Cod but I don’t think it really is.

In a restaurant here nice Cod dinners are about 20 per person.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I guess it'll be like Venezuela soon enough, and it'll be hard to stay fat. That's really going to make some people howl, and the way they got fat, they're going to suffer from malnutrition eating like they do. You can cut portions to help make ends meet, but you have to eat right or else you suffer.

originally posted by: seattlerat
I was at a local QFC (Kroger) on Friday, frozen pizzas were 98% sold-out, the few remaining items were vegan. Prices are up more than slightly, and fewer items are marked down.

What has me concerned is the looming hay shortage. I have 2 domestic rabbits that rely on it for food & bedding, I've stocked up, but the shortage will affect a great deal more than pet owners.

US Hay Shortage to Impact Corn and Beef Prices

Western Ranchers are Cuttin' Herds Like Mad to Prep for a Winter with Short Hay

2021 Drought Produces Hay Shortages for the Equestrian Industry

From your link, this part is scary!!

Drought in the Northern Plains and across the West has reduced hay supplies. For farmers in the Dakotas and upper Minnesota regions, the loss of hay production is extra troubling as they watch their corn and other grain yields deteriorate, and need to decide how to feed animals through the winter. Some farmers will be forced to sell off young livestock or dairy producing cows to reduce the number of mouths to feed. For farmers farther west, pastureland is in terrible condition and animals will need supplemental feed to maintain proper nutrition. Hay prices are even rising in places like Iowa where conditions are good, but hay supplies from the area are getting pulled out west and north.

That term “supplemental feed” People have no clue what that really means……
Skittles, embryos of other animals including cows, garbage and everything that isn’t banned..

a reply to: JAGStorm

It doesn't. It just mean they will have to import hey, grain, etc., from other regions in order to supplement that natural forage that should be on the pasture the animals graze through the winter.

Usually, the pasture is in good enough condition that animals can still browse/graze off it through the winter, but with drought the normal grasses and forage don't grow and aren't there.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I’m pretty sure you and I live in the same neck of the woods, and prices for everything are rapidly rising.

I live on a small 25 acre private lake with abundant fish and waterfowl in season. There are only 6 houses on the lake with 7 others having access. We have 1 acre, and keep a large garden. This whole thing is making me considering a small rabbit and chicken flock. I’m pretty sure I could provide for the two for us plus those small flocks with what I can grow, fish and hunt for. Deer and turkey are also abundant.

This is what people have done in the past, providing for themselves. I was lucky to have one side of the family as farmers, and the other side as lumberjacks. Both sides from northern Wisconsin. They taught me so much about the ways of the past and I am grateful.

Unfortunately, there are many that are not as lucky. Living in a major city is tough, your food supply is only as reliable as the trucks that deliver to the stores. The farther you are from the source, the the less reliable it is.

Not trying to say we provide everything we eat, but I believe we could in a crunch. We love seafood, I ordered crab and scallops for New Years And almost choked at the price. Times sure have changed, I pray they change back

a reply to: Topcraft

Yes I know what you are talking about.
I’m expanding my garden by a lot.
I’m also thinking long term as far as my garden. Not just fruit/veggies and herbs but trees, natives that will attract pollinators. I’m thinking medicinal plants that might be hard to get if something happens.

I tested a few things last year. Some surprised me and some totally flopped.

I tried loofa for the first time, it was actually doing fantastic despite being in Wisconsin, long summer. Then the second fall hit the deer went to town and ate them all.

Come to Canada if you want to see scary grocery store prices.

a reply to: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

Doom was always part of reality and will always be. You and others here make it ‘the reality’.

If everyone on ATS vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, what the OP posted is still going to happen.

So I reject your premise.

Correct, because of people doing the exact same thing you are doing. The people supporting the measures that are crippling the economy and causing all sorts of issues are also addicted to doom. Your doom is just different so you think it is correct.

Reject all you want-no post will convince someone of folly if they want to be right above all else.

a reply to: JAGStorm
An even bigger issue is that if people are spending money on food, they have less money to spend on other things, which hits the entire economy.
The historical Industrial Revolution was only possible because there was an Agricultural Revolution first, which made food cheap and thereby put money in people's pockets to spend on the new things that were being made.

Alaskan crab legs- $90 per lb
Dungeoness crab meat- $35 per 12oz deli container

Those Alaskan legs used to be $19.99 LB for years. 3 months ago they were $29.99. ( 1 big claw leg for $30)

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

Doom was always part of reality and will always be. You and others here make it ‘the reality’.

If everyone on ATS vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, what the OP posted is still going to happen.

So I reject your premise.

Correct, because of people doing the exact same thing you are doing. The people supporting the measures that are crippling the economy and causing all sorts of issues are also addicted to doom. Your doom is just different so you think it is correct.

Reject all you want-no post will convince someone of folly if they want to be right above all else.

The topic isn't MY doom at all... I go to the grocery store twice a year.

So it won't be mine... but if basic economics and history are any indication, a lot of people are going to be effected.

No offense intended, but from going though your posting history it appears that you are only afraid of what the TV tells you to be afraid of.

If I wanted to know what you thought, I would just turn on CNN and listen for half an hour.

Your posts carry no weight here simply because of their content.

Care to comment on the topic for a change?

a reply to: visitedbythem

What is a Midwesterner to do?

We can look like South Africa in a hot minute.
Not even a week without WIC or ADC/welfare payments and we're off to the races.