Grocery prices are getting scary

Went to the store yesterday and got three small bags, it was over 80 bucks.
I am very fortunate and am able to buy whatever I want. I’ve had my share of struggles in the past, and know what it’s like when food prices get crazy, it gets scary.

There are only a few costs that are really important, Food, Housing, Utilities, and transportation.
Honestly, food has been cheap in the US for a long time and has balanced the other costs. The people here really don’t realize how much and how cheap food has been, but I’m afraid that is changing very rapidly.
I’ve noticed that meats, especially red meat is really up.

This is going to be a problem for us for a long time. Here’s what happens. When people don’t have enough money for food, they buy cheap food. They buy pasta, they buy rice, and I’m talking the worst kind. They buy bread, again the worst. This is going to just create long term health issues, and costs for everyone as a society. What a shame this is. My son worked a short stint at a warehouse for a grocery store. Every time prices went up, pasta sales went insane. Humans are creatures of habit that’s for sure. So we know somewhere in the future we are going to have a bunch of people with all manner of health issues, diabetes, heart disease etc.

Now lets look into what may be much sooner. If we keep having so much discord in our society, and the government issues are going to get really ugly. A huge swath of the population is so dependent on government care. Food being the most basic. If something disrupts that, then what? I think
We are getting there, I think we are much closer than people realize. What is going to happen?

I know what will happen, because I’ve talked to friends that live in India and other places where food is precious. It gets LOCKED UP. We took a friend to an apple orchard and he was amazed. In his country there are armed guards at the orchards and farms. I honestly don’t think it will take much for us to get to that level. Enjoy your non locked up food now…

a reply to: JAGStorm

Those of us who live in small towns where our produce is fresh and local aren't really having a problem.

Sounds like this is just part of the same old supply chain breakdown that everyone else is experiencing.

Fun fact, this kind of thing actually plagued the Soviet Union back in the day. You'd see big trucks coming to haul away produce form the collectives, only for it to have rotted before it got to the big cities, or spoiled in warehouses waiting for it to be taken to wherever it needed to go.

I went to the grocery this morning. The shelves were as full as normal for the season. The prices were up by at least 35% over last year. Something strange, I couldn’t find chilli powder. What’s up with that?

a reply to: JAGStorm

I agree with your premise that food will be our next pinch-point and the higher the prices, the worse the majority of people will eat, causing long-term health issues which will in turn raise the cost of health care.

I don't think there is a political or cultural fix for that anymore in America.

Sometimes you have to think out of the box for a long-term solution for you personally.

Some of the things that I eat are costing more and more as well.

For instance, in 2020, 200 pounds of elk cost me $1.

In 2021 the same 200 pounds of elk cost me $1.50.

That's a 50% increase!

Supply chain disruptions and inflation...

a reply to: JAGStorm

We have been here before.

Americans suffered during the era of the Dust Bowl, the great depression, and war time rationing.

The problem with Americans is that we have very short memories. We have a tendency to glorify the past, and disregard any portions of it that offends our sensibilities, or our embellished beliefs about our greatness.

A few months ago, I read a book about the hell many Americans suffered during the time of the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression. It was not pretty. I think it is important history that we should teach our children. They won't get in school.

And then the dispossessed were drawn west — from Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico; from Nevada and Arkansas, families, tribes, dusted out, tractored out. Car-loads, caravans, homeless and hungry; twenty thousand and fifty thousand and a hundred thousand and two hundred thousand.

They streamed over the mountains, hungry and restless — restless as ants, scurrying to find work to do — to lift, to push, to pull, to pick, to cut — anything, any burden to bear, for food. The kids are hungry. We got no place to live. Like ants scurrying for work, for food, and most of all for land. — John Steinbeck. The Grapes of Wrath, 1939

A meager existence Families survived on cornbread, beans, and milk. People were beginning to give up hope, and a mass exodus — the largest migration in American history — ensued from the plains. Many families packed their belongings, piled them on their cars and moved westward, fleeing the dust and desert of the Midwest for Washington, Oregon and California.

They were willing to work for any wage at all, planting and harvesting other people`s lands. Oklahoma refugees, 1930s When those families reached the borders of those western states, they were not well received — too many people already there were out of work.

Many California farms were corporate owned, meaning they were larger and more modernized than what the farmers were used to. Families often lived in tar-paper shacks with no floor or plumbing. By 1940, 2.5 million people had moved out of the Dust Bowl states toward the Pacific states.

In the fall of 1934, with cattle feed depleted, the government began to buy and destroy thousands of starving livestock. Of all the government programs during that time, the cattle slaughter was the most wrenching for farmers. Although it was difficult for farmers to give up their herds, the cattle slaughter helped many of them avoid bankruptcy.

Dust storm 1930s In the spring of 1935, the wind blew 27 days and nights without stopping. People and animals began to die of suffocation and "dust pneumonia."

www.u-s-history.com...

Something I've noticed over the years is that God comes through. Our lives have never been easy exactly, but we've always managed to make it work and there has somehow always been just enough to get through.

When I got my job this past year and then immediately got a raise and then a promotion with another raise on top of it, we looked at each other, and the first thing we thought was, "Oh dear lord, how bad are things going to get?" Because we don't just take care of ourselves, we also help family and occasionally friends when we can.

But right now we're comfortable, so I wonder how bad we're going to go. I am afraid this is only the beginning.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It's already happening in other retail sectors. If the usually lying MSM is to be believed, smash-and-grabs attacks are happening in clothing and jewelry stores and shoplifting is out of control in some jurisdictions. In some places they don't have the resources to prosecute and in others, they just don't care and the criminals get a free pass to walk.

It won't take long for the to wave move into the grocery sector. As people get hungry, they'll resort to the same practices at the Hy-Vee, hte Kroger, the Trader Joe's and Whole Foods.

Actually, according to this report from Kansas City, MO,, folks in the know see it on the horizon and are already planning for it.
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Something I've noticed over the years is that God comes through. Our lives have never been easy exactly, but we've always managed to make it work and there has somehow always been just enough to get through.

When I got my job this past year and then immediately got a raise and then a promotion with another raise on top of it, we looked at each other, and the first thing we thought was, "Oh dear lord, how bad are things going to get?" Because we don't just take care of ourselves, we also help family and occasionally friends when we can.

But right now we're comfortable, so I wonder how bad we're going to go. I am afraid this is only the beginning.

I was just talking to a neighbor about this.

We think more often of the things that we don't have, than the things we do.

I have seen people that have lost everything, including the clothes on their backs, and they have managed to work through the struggle.

One of the reasons I doggedly encourage strong family and community ties.

a reply to: incoserv

Ah yes, the armed guards in our Hy-Vees. Our police, especially in the Northland have been critically understaffed, and the mayor and council are constantly fighting with the state over the police because they do not have local control. They just tried defunding and were slapped down hard by the courts.

Personally, I think the Northland of KC should just break off from the Jackson County portion already and go form its own township. They use us for our money and abuse us for everything else.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

A few m9onths ago, I read a book about the hell many Americans suffered during the time of the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression. It was not pretty. I think it is important history that we should teach our children. They won't get in school.

I’ve read so much about the depression. My grandparents were all from that generation.
There were good/romanticized things of course, but I do agree with you that there was a very scary ugly side.
People were always cold, hungry and sometimes dirty.
Food was sometimes stretched by putting things in like sawdust, YES sawdust. Those parts aren’t talked about so much!

a reply to: incoserv

Some places are already preparing.

A local jewelry store was recently “robbed” except they were smart and absolutely everything was already locked up. So they got nothing, but did damage.

It was also not on the news! Not a single peep about it. Found out about it from a neighbor that worked there.

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

originally posted by: Nickn3
I went to the grocery this morning. The shelves were as full as normal for the season. The prices were up by at least 35% over last year. Something strange, I couldn’t find chilli powder. What’s up with that?

Milwaukee has a huge spice hub. There has been something weird going on with it since the pandemic started.
I’m not sure if it all supply chain related, Covid, or political. I know we’ve had limits on our spices for at least a year now.


I’m going to grow all the spices/herbsI can this year.

I’m seeing higher prices here, on everything in the grocery stores.

Everything going up in price, but my paycheck.

So we don’t go out to eat very often but this last week decided to go to a smaller mom pop type local chain. Ordered up, got the bill, did a double take and about fell out of my chair. Well I won’t be going there or out to eat for a while.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

I remember all the doom criers back during the 2008 crash, and I told them you'll know it's getting bad when you see the tent cities and homeless everywhere you look.

Well, guess what? That's where we are.

If you look, this is getting back toward that level. The crime was horrific then too. There was also the same level of corruption between city officials and the police that allowed crime to get as bad as it did. We're seeing it all over again. Those who don't learn their history are doomed to repeat it.

a reply to: 38181

We're determined to do what we can not to change our behaviors where local stores are concerned. The large chains can bite me, but mom and pop places that are really good are fighting this as much as you and I are, and if I'm going to spend my money, they need it more than McD's or Walmart.

I was at a local QFC (Kroger) on Friday, frozen pizzas were 98% sold-out, the few remaining items were vegan. Prices are up more than slightly, and fewer items are marked down.

What has me concerned is the looming hay shortage. I have 2 domestic rabbits that rely on it for food & bedding, I've stocked up, but the shortage will affect a great deal more than pet owners.

US Hay Shortage to Impact Corn and Beef Prices

Western Ranchers are Cuttin' Herds Like Mad to Prep for a Winter with Short Hay

2021 Drought Produces Hay Shortages for the Equestrian Industry

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
Another circle jerk doom thread.

I really wish this was doom porn, unfortunately this is reality now.

Doom was always part of reality and will always be. You and others here make it ‘the reality’.