Clown Time Why are they telling people to get Vax’d for Omni?

a reply to: canucks555

You should be all boostered up then, brah.

I'm sure it prevents acne, and tooth decay, too.

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originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

So why are the majority in hospitals vaxxed?.

a reply to: canucks555



" If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now. "


How you Figure that ? How about the Logical Opposite of that ? If you are UNVAXXED , then there's a Better Chance that your Posterior won't end up in the h Hospital BECAUSE you Do Not Have Covid , and Need No Assistance in Staying Healthy to Begin With .

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

The article says the existing vaccines may be less effective for preventing someone from acquiring the infection in the first place and then transmitting it to someone else. That means that more people will be getting infected in the near future than would be the case if the previous strains were dominant.

However, the existing vaccines still provide a good amount of protection for an infected person from developing serious symptoms and dying. If more people are going to get infected, it would be a good idea to have a smaller fraction of them dying.

originally posted by: canucks555
If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

Then by definition it is a treatment, not a vaccine.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

The article says the existing vaccines may be less effective for preventing someone from acquiring the infection in the first place and then transmitting it to someone else. That means that more people will be getting infected in the near future than would be the case if the previous strains were dominant.

However, the existing vaccines still provide a good amount of protection for an infected person from developing serious symptoms and dying. If more people are going to get infected, it would be a good idea to have a smaller fraction of them dying.

Hospitalizations and deaths to date in Canada
We have detailed case report data on 1,844,901 cases, and hospitalization status for 1,339,237 (72.6%) of them:

94,220 cases (7.0%) were hospitalized, of whom:
18,330 (19.5%) were admitted to the ICU
2,145 (2.3%) needed mechanical ventilation

In a country of 37,742,154 people, hospitalization risk was minimal, to begin with, ICU visits even more so. Now look at Canada's suicide and homicide rates did they go up or down if they went up it makes that margin of saving people shrink even further.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Because ............Simon says.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

For fun?

No- sorry, I mean for profit?

Does that work?

I think a major side effect is social obedience.

a reply to: JAGStorm

"Omni"??? What's that?

Are you referring to Omicron?

Those of us who didn't get jabbed might be too healthy looking compared to the others in a few years based on the information we have seen here on ATS. It sounded far retched about 2 or 3 years ago and it doesn't now.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JAGStorm


Social Darwinism at Work . Breed Out the Inferior " Dumb Ones " by Indirect Deception then See what Else is Left After that . Hmm......

Soon there going to be cheering for effectiveness thats less than the placebo effect once people accept that it won't matter they could litteraly give you saline and get the same reduction in icu/deaths

originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

The actual data disputes that statement. When you consider all the attempts to fire the thousands of medical professionals who refuse to comply. Wonder why they would do that being in the business and why don't the Vaccine Manufacturers people take the shots?

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

The article says the existing vaccines may be less effective for preventing someone from acquiring the infection in the first place and then transmitting it to someone else. That means that more people will be getting infected in the near future than would be the case if the previous strains were dominant.

However, the existing vaccines still provide a good amount of protection for an infected person from developing serious symptoms and dying. If more people are going to get infected, it would be a good idea to have a smaller fraction of them dying.

Hospitalizations and deaths to date in Canada
We have detailed case report data on 1,844,901 cases, and hospitalization status for 1,339,237 (72.6%) of them:

94,220 cases (7.0%) were hospitalized, of whom:
18,330 (19.5%) were admitted to the ICU
2,145 (2.3%) needed mechanical ventilation

In a country of 37,742,154 people, hospitalization risk was minimal, to begin with, ICU visits even more so. Now look at Canada's suicide and homicide rates did they go up or down if they went up it makes that margin of saving people shrink even further.

This is a discussion of whether being vaccinated prior to getting covid prevents you from developing severe symptoms and/or dying, or not, compared to people who get covid and weren't vaccinated. That data you just spewed out carries no information at all about who was vaccinated and who wasn't. It doesn't seem to be relevant to the discussion.

Likewise, the fact that some more people may have died from being shut in compared to a time when they weren't shut in has no bearing on whether and to what extent a vaccine might be effective.

By the way, the group at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) that has been following the pandemic from the beginning has looked at this issue in detail. It is true that some deaths, such as suicides and drug overdoses have increased as a result of the societal response to the pandemic. However, other deaths--like auto fatalities for example--have declined. Their conclusion is that the increases and decreases basically neutralize each other in terms of numbers.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: canucks555
If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

Then by definition it is a treatment, not a vaccine.

Call it pickle juice if that makes you feel better. If it keeps someone's ass out of the ICU or the morgue, I would consider that a net positive.

So why the big push for the un jabbed? If you want to be better protected by getting the jab and boostering then so be it. Your choice.. You are protected then...correct? Less severity is taken care of..correct? You get the jab to protect yourself...period. Not to protect others that are already jabbed. the un jabbed is clearly not the problem as you so suggest time and time again. The unjabbed should be dead already, according to the narrative. But that's not the case. We will see jabber remorse showing up sooner rather than later. IMHO.

Lightmeup04

a reply to: 1947boomer

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

The article says the existing vaccines may be less effective for preventing someone from acquiring the infection in the first place and then transmitting it to someone else. That means that more people will be getting infected in the near future than would be the case if the previous strains were dominant.

However, the existing vaccines still provide a good amount of protection for an infected person from developing serious symptoms and dying. If more people are going to get infected, it would be a good idea to have a smaller fraction of them dying.

Hospitalizations and deaths to date in Canada
We have detailed case report data on 1,844,901 cases, and hospitalization status for 1,339,237 (72.6%) of them:

94,220 cases (7.0%) were hospitalized, of whom:
18,330 (19.5%) were admitted to the ICU
2,145 (2.3%) needed mechanical ventilation

In a country of 37,742,154 people, hospitalization risk was minimal, to begin with, ICU visits even more so. Now look at Canada's suicide and homicide rates did they go up or down if they went up it makes that margin of saving people shrink even further.

This is a discussion of whether being vaccinated prior to getting covid prevents you from developing severe symptoms and/or dying, or not, compared to people who get covid and weren't vaccinated. That data you just spewed out carries no information at all about who was vaccinated and who wasn't. It doesn't seem to be relevant to the discussion.

Likewise, the fact that some more people may have died from being shut in compared to a time when they weren't shut in has no bearing on whether and to what extent a vaccine might be effective.

By the way, the group at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) that has been following the pandemic from the beginning has looked at this issue in detail. It is true that some deaths, such as suicides and drug overdoses have increased as a result of the societal response to the pandemic. However, other deaths--like auto fatalities for example--have declined. Their conclusion is that the increases and decreases basically neutralize each other in terms of numbers.

Calling my links irrelevant yet you have none yourself, I quantified your "good amount" and in ICU patients the difference is 50% which in Canada is 9000 more patients if not vaccinated, in 37 million people the amount is nothing.

it's literally .486% even if you doubled it it is still less than 1%, and those numbers frighten you enough to shut down businesses

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: canucks555
If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

Then by definition it is a treatment, not a vaccine.

Call it pickle juice if that makes you feel better. If it keeps someone's ass out of the ICU or the morgue, I would consider that a net positive.

WE can call it whatever we wish. However legally, the term matters. Very much so. Especially when it is considered for mandates, being absolved of culpability etc etc.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: JAGStorm

"Omni"??? What's that?

Are you referring to Omicron?

I had to go back and actually look, it is Omicron, Oh well not like anyone cares what these things are called anymore!
Omni Omic blah blah blah!

But if it makes you feel better the correct term is Omicron!

Well at our house we're all vaccinated -
but the real question is, have any of you ever noticed how when you're on line at the grocery store, or just out in general, how some people will cough and sneeze without covering their mouths? Or stand on line a few inches from you, breathing all over you?
The ignorance is just overwhelming sometimes, and how many people are paying attention to washing their hands?
How can this thing ever disappear unless everyone cooperates?

a reply to: JAGStorm

Clown Time Why are they telling people to get Vax’d for Omni?

Because they want to control you, anyone that hasn’t seen through this farce is an idiot and waste of air.

I think you know this Jag.