Question: Is Omicron Variant a Natural Mutation or Man Made?

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: MapMistress

Thank you for making clear what I had thought when I read your post that inspired this thread. I am grateful for the inspiration and your post here.

You're welcome.

Getting more interesting stories about Omicron being lab-leaked and/or man-made.

This one claims that Omicron's genome looks like it was frozen, then thawed.

So to sum this up:
1) SARS2 Omicron genome looks like it was "separated/frozen" between June 2020 and late summer 2021 -
This has never before been seen in nature, only in lab leaked pandemics


Valentin Bruttel, researching autoimmune medicines

This doctor says that Omicron mutations could not have happened naturally.

Omicrons (B.1.1.529) most recent common ancestor is AV.1. Relative to this MRCA, Omicron has 25 nonsynonymous and 1 synonymous mutation in Spike, and 13 nonsynonymous and 6 synonymous mutations in the entire rest of the genome. This is very strange & I don't understand.

I have re-done the alignments and counting up of mutations, and it's even weirder than i first said.

34 discontinuous changes (that are likely independent events).  only one of them is silent.  the rest change amino acid.   see attached pictures. to quote @K_G_Andersen  this is inconsistent with expectations from standard evolutionary theory.

this is just bonkers. there should be a butt-tonne of other silent passenger mutations hitching a ride with nonsynonymous changes under positive selective pressure.  i am not invoking a sinister lab engineering event here, just something important that i do not know.


Dr. B on Twitter

Then this article says scientists in South Africa found a new way to induce a lot more mutations in Covid. January 2021. Plenty of time for Nazi's to copy the man's work and try it themselves.

Durban - A DURBAN medical student at the University of KwaZulu-Natal Nelson Mandela School of Medicine and aspiring virologist has come up with a creative way of growing the South African Covid-19 variant.

KZN scientist finds new way of growing new Covid-19 variant in groundbreaking research: Jan 2021

It seems to be a hybridization between delta and 229E.

Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold virus

Study: Omicron could be more transmissible due to sharing genetic material with common cold

originally posted by: CrazyFox
Tro al led here very interesting court case TRO AL (Alabama)

Motion for Temporary Restraining Order Against Use of COVID Vaccine in Children

Good info teamwork
a reply to: Wide-Eyes
Demonic Tro AL


Also there is this potion malort

Nice investigative skills man. This TRO could probably use some more exposure.

Right, I posted a link on another thread but not much traction.
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

The Director of the National Institute of Health (NIH) says if OMICRON has disappointed you, as it has him, there may be some really serious variants in the pipeline.

gettr.com...

Keep hope alive!

originally posted by: MapMistress

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: MapMistress

Thank you for making clear what I had thought when I read your post that inspired this thread. I am grateful for the inspiration and your post here.

You're welcome.

Getting more interesting stories about Omicron being lab-leaked and/or man-made.

This one claims that Omicron's genome looks like it was frozen, then thawed.

So to sum this up:
1) SARS2 Omicron genome looks like it was "separated/frozen" between June 2020 and late summer 2021 -
This has never before been seen in nature, only in lab leaked pandemics


Valentin Bruttel, researching autoimmune medicines

This doctor says that Omicron mutations could not have happened naturally.

Omicrons (B.1.1.529) most recent common ancestor is AV.1. Relative to this MRCA, Omicron has 25 nonsynonymous and 1 synonymous mutation in Spike, and 13 nonsynonymous and 6 synonymous mutations in the entire rest of the genome. This is very strange & I don't understand.

I have re-done the alignments and counting up of mutations, and it's even weirder than i first said.

34 discontinuous changes (that are likely independent events).  only one of them is silent.  the rest change amino acid.   see attached pictures. to quote @K_G_Andersen  this is inconsistent with expectations from standard evolutionary theory.

this is just bonkers. there should be a butt-tonne of other silent passenger mutations hitching a ride with nonsynonymous changes under positive selective pressure.  i am not invoking a sinister lab engineering event here, just something important that i do not know.


Dr. B on Twitter

Then this article says scientists in South Africa found a new way to induce a lot more mutations in Covid. January 2021. Plenty of time for Nazi's to copy the man's work and try it themselves.

Durban - A DURBAN medical student at the University of KwaZulu-Natal Nelson Mandela School of Medicine and aspiring virologist has come up with a creative way of growing the South African Covid-19 variant.

KZN scientist finds new way of growing new Covid-19 variant in groundbreaking research: Jan 2021

Well done, it's looking more like a GOF virus based on the others. If this is a man made pathogen, then it shows that the studies have been going full bore without a pause. Also, if true, it is becoming apparent that they are trying to prefect a bio-weapon and that would make it even more convincing that this one was released on purpose, rather than by some accident. This GOF game has gotten completely out of hand and won't stop until the research is banned, all labs destroyed, and the experts doing the research are disappeared along with all their data.

originally posted by: carewemust
The Director of the National Institute of Health (NIH) says if OMICRON has disappointed you, as it has him, there may be some really serious variants in the pipeline.

Well I'm still not sure that Omicron is as mild as main stream media is claiming. I figure that they just don't want public panic before Christmas, so they are downplaying the severity. They don't want the public to be rushing to buy toilet paper, cleaning supplies, gloves, masks, hand sanitizer...and all essentials shelves bare again. They want the public to shop for Christmas and give the needed boost for the economy.

December 6, 2021

Some South Africa hospital wards are jammed with patients infected with the omicron coronavirus variant as President Cyril Ramaphosa urged South Africans on Monday to get vaccinated.

In the past week, cases have reached more than 16,000, up dramatically from 2,300 last Monday, according to South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases.

The NICD says the increase in cases in such a short period of time is “unprecedented” in the trajectory of the pandemic, now in its fourth phase in the country.

“Unfortunately, we’re seeing a more than doubling of hospital admissions each day,” said Ian Sanne, an infectious diseases specialist who serves on South Africa’s COVID-19 presidential advisory committee.

Sout h Africa Hospitals Jammed with Omicron Patients

It sounds serious. But they don't break down what the statistics are with the hospitalizations by symptoms or conditions.

Still hoping that the Nazi's who released Omicron got the human immune system wrong and that those who have aquired natural immunity are still able to fight off Omicron.

a reply to: MapMistress

This information you present has certainly made me more aware of this variant's potential, thanks once again.

However, I'm not sure about the Nazi element in South Africa, but like I posted earlier, if this was man made it makes it highly probable this one was released intentionally. I lean more toward the original Wuhan GOF chimera virus being an accidental release, but from your info, it is looking like Omnicron has been released on purpose to infect, sicken and kill human beings on a global scale. Two of my older brothers believe we are in a covert biological world war, a theory that is becoming more believable as time moves along.

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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: MapMistress

This information you present has certainly made me more aware of this variant's potential, thanks once again.

However, I'm not sure about the Nazi element in South Africa, but like I posted earlier, if this was man made it makes it highly probable this one was released intentionally. I lean more toward the original Wuhan GOF chimera virus being an accidental release, but from your info, it is looking like Omnicron has been released on purpose to infect, sicken and kill human beings on a global scale. Two of my older brothers believe we are in a covert biological world war, a theory that is becoming more believable as time moves along.

If it is man made, then it is man controlled.

They can go to battle with nature, but nature will always win.

Nature will prosper without us, if she sends us the way of the dinosaurs.

Playing with viruses and vaccines is pure Frankenstein madness, guess work, and the lottery.

Count me out. I just hope the dust that I return to, will eventually be the footstool for a fig tree.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4DawnWhich takes us right back to the beginning of this debacle.
If it holds true that the original C19 did indeed contain a 'part' of the HIV virus, then I said even then back in May 2020, those like myself who contracted it and recovered are screwed.
I'm still not vaccinated because I caught it, no other reason, but also because if the above holds true, at least I am dealing with the 'basics' and not complicated by jab after jab.

Everybody seems to be overlooking the possibility of the original C19 being a bio-weapon of some sort and pausing to think about the consequences of that.
Rainbows
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a reply to: angelchemuel

The woman I work with, she's in her mid to late 20s, is prepper minded and very intelligent. We have discussed bug out bags even. She got the jab and is going on to the boosters.

When she told me that I sort of started to rant a little. I told her I was "anti-vaxx", but not really (didn't elaborate) and went on to say that the spike proteins are causing all the damage. She didn't know what spike proteins were, so I described them and let it go. It was apparent she hadn't done any research before jumping on the vaccination band wagon. I didn't try to convince her of anything or persuade her to not continue with boosters. If she brings it up again I may have to go into detail or I'll just recommend a website link.

Just wanted you to know that there are still many like me and you that have drilled down to the core of this and have come to the conclusion that this can only be a biological weapon that "got loose". Others, as smart and prepared as they may be, don't have the conspiracy mind set to question what is really going on with all this.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: angelchemuel

Just wanted you to know that there are still many like me and you that have drilled down to the core of this and have come to the conclusion that this can only be a biological weapon that "got loose". Others, as smart and prepared as they may be, don't have the conspiracy mind set to question what is really going on with all this.

I think you may be right. Just maybe not exactly the kind of bio weapon we would normally think of.

It is looking more and more like "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers". Our leaders having been the first infected, it would be their sole purpose, to make sure every darn person on the planet was infected too. Can't let those Pure Bloods get away. Catch them and inject them, or eliminate them.

One by one, the residents of San Francisco are becoming drone-like shadows of their former selves. As the phenomenon spreads, two Department of Health workers, Matthew (Sutherland) and Elizabeth (Adams), uncover the horrifying truth: Mysterious pods are cloning humans — and destroying the originals! The unworldly invasion grows stronger with each passing minute, hurling Matthew and Elizabeth into a desperate race to save not only their own lives, but the future of the entire human race.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

Well done, it's looking more like a GOF virus based on the others. If this is a man made pathogen, then it shows that the studies have been going full bore without a pause. Also, if true, it is becoming apparent that they are trying to prefect a bio-weapon and that would make it even more convincing that this one was released on purpose, rather than by some accident. This GOF game has gotten completely out of hand and won't stop until the research is banned, all labs destroyed, and the experts doing the research are disappeared along with all their data.

And now Omicron gets worse. Apparently, there is already a "new mutation" to Omicron that the PCR-Tests are not recognizing.

They are calling this "Stealth-Virus Omicron".

Scientists have recently reported finding a new version of the Omicron coronavirus variant that is more difficult to identify using standard PCR coronavirus testing, leading experts to fear it may be spreading less noticeably around the world.

Scientists have recently reported finding a new version of the Omicron coronavirus variant that is more difficult to identify using standard PCR coronavirus testing, leading experts to fear it may be spreading less noticeably around the world.

The new version has been dubbed "stealth Omicron" by some researchers because it lacks a particular genetic change that allows it to be easily detected in the lab-based COVID-19 tests, according to a report from The Guardian.

Researchers have said that this new version has other genetic features to differentiate itself from the standard Omicron variant. While it can still be detected as Omicron through genomic testing, studies have found that it is not as easily flagged by routine PCR tests that are used around the world to measure how quickly the virus is spreading, according to the news outlet.
...
"There are two lineages within Omicron, BA.1 and BA.2 differentiated genetically," professor Francois Balloux, director of the University College London Genetics Institute, told The Guardian. "The two lineages may behave differently."

Scientists Discover New Version of Omicron That Is Difficult to Detect From COVID Testing

Obviously someone is screwing around with Covid in a lab and releasing it. So not only is there regular Omicron, there's now also Stealth Omicron.

Maybe the South African Nazis were angry about not winning the seats they wanted in the November elections. So they released regular Omicron on the voting masses. Stealth Omicron is probably for assassination purposes, to assassinate political parties or dignitaries that they want to get rid of.

Either that, or perhaps the Nazis plan to use a Stealth Omicron version to attack Israel.

Just trying to guess what might be done with Stealth Omicron.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Here's another article on Stealth Omicron.

One major unknown is how the new variant emerged. While it falls under Omicron, it is so genetically distinct that it may qualify as a new “variant of concern” if it spreads rapidly. To have two variants, BA.1 and BA.2, arise in quick succession with shared mutations is “worrying” according to one researcher, and suggests public health surveillance “is missing a big piece of the puzzle”

Scientis ts find ‘stealth’ version of Omicron that may be harder to track

With regards to stopping the experiments, not sure how they would dismantle them. Some of them are authorized experiments in South Africa, like this one...

Researchers want to measure Omicron’s ability to evade immune responses and the protection they offer. For instance, a team led by Penny Moore, a virologist at the NICD and the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, is measuring the ability of neutralizing, or virus-blocking, antibodies triggered by previous infection and vaccination to stop Omicron from infecting cells. To test this in the laboratory, her team is making ‘pseudovirus’ particles — an engineered version of HIV that uses SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein to infect cells — that match Omicron, which harbours as many as 32 changes to spike.

How bad is Omicron? What scientists know so far

Imagine how South African Nazis are copying this experiment. Airborn HIV, with a Covid Spike protein. HIV is another stealth virus.

a reply to: MapMistress

Holy Christ! What they are creating sounds infinitely worse than some natural variation! I've always considered the original SARS CoV-2 to be an attempt to created air borne AIDS, it seems they succeeded.

By the way, HIV was never natural, it was created sometime before 1978 or 1979 when they gave a news report about how the military developed it in a lab. I read about it in a newspaper article back then. Biological weapons weren't banned until 1984, after AIDS broke out of the lab.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: MapMistress

By the way, HIV was never natural, it was created sometime before 1978 or 1979 when they gave a news report about how the military developed it in a lab. I read about it in a newspaper article back then. Biological weapons weren't banned until 1984, after AIDS broke out of the lab.

Biological weapons were banned at the end of WWII with the Geneva Convention.

I know HIV is man-made. It is part of the Nazi STD virus projects. The Nazi idea was to inject STDs into races and let them kill themselves off by having sex.

South Africa does not have any chimpanzees. They have to import them. The imported chimps that were the SIV-predecessor to HIV came from the former German colony of Cameroon according to Dr. Hahn at the University of Alabama who did DNA sequences of SIV in chimpanzee populations.

At the end of Apartheid, on the 2000 statistics, the area that was once the larger South Africa had rates of HIV double and triple of what Cameroon and Angola's rates. Obviously, Hepatitis G was not the only STD injected into blacks locked into Apartheid reservations policed by whites.

2000 HIV STATISTICS
Botswana/Rhodesia = 36% of population HIV+
Lesotho = 25% of population HIV+
Swaziland = 25% of population HIV +
Namibia = 20% of population HIV +
South Africa = 19.9% of population HIV +

And to be honest, less than half of the populations in those regions had been tested. So the majority had not been tested in 2000.

All of the variants of Covid, including Covid itself, are man-made. None are natural species of Earth, except the original virus manipulated into other strains, which die out, soon afterwards, and another strain must replace it, if one exists, and it dies out, and so on....

Why would a new variant pop up every 5 or 6 months now, and the previous variant 'vanish' out of all existence, almost at the very same time? Because they aren't natural species, they're man-made FROM natural species, FROM natural viruses.

Same as cats and rabbits are natural species, which always reproduce their species, but when both species are genetically combined by human manipulation, to create a 'cabbit', part cat, part rabbit DNA, they are not a natural species, and cannot reproduce 'cabbits', being not a natural species of Earth. Same as a 'liger' is not a natural species of Earth, and cannot reproduce. They are man-made from natural species, but are not an actual species.


The same for man-made 'viruses', and 'variants' of them, are not real species, or life forms, either.

They will spread to other hosts, like natural viruses do, but they all die out, soon afterwards, because they cannot reproduce themselves, same as a cabbit or liger cannot reproduce.

The only way to perpetuate that virus, is with more variants of it, released when the other one starts to die out. Of course, that requires developing many variants beforehand, to perpetuate it. Or just claim that another 'variant' has popped up, at least. Only time will tell if a variant really DID exist, or not.


Before Covid, they said a new 'virus' was from animals, or from natural origins, but they've become so arrogant, and confident about their plans, they simply say it's another 'variant' of Covid, again and again, popping up out of somewhere, and don't even try making up a story about where it came from anymore!

It's almost like they WANT us all to know it's man-made, and say there's nothing we can DO about it, except bleat on about it to others, who agree it's man-made too, and nothing happens but more angst, and feeling even more powerless to do anything about it all!


They're telling us we're being screwed over by them, and we can't do anything about it, but take whatever they want, whenever they want, or be an outcast of society, of your family, and lose your job, as a result.

Could you ever imagine what it would sound like, years ago, if we'd been told to wear a mask, everywhere we go in public, and at work? That only 3 of your own frickin' family are allowed to be together, at the same time?

It's only going to get worse, and worse, in the future. To know we could stop it, but we don't, and we never will, is the saddest thing of all.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Since it is (apparently) more contagious but has reportedly much milder symptoms, i’d say a natural evolution.

Viruses, like all lifeforms and exist to propagate themselves, over time they gradually adapt to their environment.

A virus is dependent on it’s host as it’s environment and strains with worse symptoms are less likely to propagate than those with milder ones. Simply because the host will seek treatment (or even die) from symptoms which does the virus no good at all. Milder symptoms are much more likely to go untreated or unnoticed.

it's like cow pox and small pox. [i haven't found anything about a bat virus that has the same properties/symptoms as mesals, flu and a cold.] yeah stupid but not really what i meant.


dinner is on the table so i will research more about virus.

What does rabies do to humans?
The first symptoms of rabies can appear from a few days to more than a year after the bite happens. At first, there's a tingling, prickling, or itching feeling around the bite area. A person also might have flu-like symptoms such as a fever, headache, muscle aches, loss of appetite, nausea, and tiredness.What's the survival rate of rabies?

Human cases of the virus are extremely rare in the United States, but if it's not treated before symptoms appear, it's deadly. Rabies has the highest mortality rate -- 99.9% -- of any disease on earth.
www.google.com...

What are some examples of mild illness of the coronavirus disease?

Mild Illness: Individuals who have any of the various signs and symptoms of COVID-19 (e.g., fever, cough, sore throat, malaise, headache, muscle pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of taste and smell) but who do not have shortness of breath, dyspnea, or abnormal chest imaging.



covid, a frankenvirus someone was trying to make. contagous and deadly. no known cure.








o i just dida simple google search for mesals, covid, rabies,cow and small pox and flu. mainly to check symptoms and transmission method.

rabies is spread by bites or scratches, pox are contact, flu/colds by droplets in the air. being inhaled.

where am i going with this? as soon as i find out where i am, i'll know. my brandon moment.

what was the question? again? lol.

oh,www.etymonline.com... my guess is its manmade. watered down so to speak.

www.etymonline.com...#:~:text=omni%2D,op%2D%20%22to%20work%2C%20produce%20in%20abundance.%22

sorry don't know how to hot link yet.

a reply to: turbonium1

It's only going to get worse, and worse, in the future. To know we could stop it, but we don't, and we never will, is the saddest thing of all.

Slave camps, internment camps, gulags, the list goes on into the Red Dawn.

The number of people in this world that know this, is beyond scary and pathetic, it shows a shift in our psyche away from being human.

I used to appeal to the power of love, and the commitment to self, family, and community, but I am watching that die all around me.

It is now all about living in the moment. Families are disintegrating. Fear is the emotion of choice.

They keep the endorphins pumping. Ever wonder why horror movies are so popular?

The majority of us enjoy the endorphins released when we experience fear. They know that, so the keep the fear going. We have become addicted to fear, and puppets.

We could stop it. We won't stop it because we won't do it for ourselves, and we don't give a damn about tomorrow.

They have removed the concern for the future from us. From the time before knowing, we prepared and fought for our future, and for our children, and their children, and their children, and their children.

Now here we are, over a thousand generations, and this is what we have become.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: turbonium1

Slave camps, internment camps, gulags, the list goes on into the Red Dawn.

I'm a little puzzled by Australia and its internment camps in the NorthWest Territory. The Aussie's clearly knew about Omicron before it was officially discovered. But it's like they are trying forced vaccinations when the design of Omicron is to make the vaccines useless. All the genetics from different Covid strains that were known to make the vaccines useless were all put into one strain of Covid---Omicron. So what's the point of the vaccines?

A two-shot course of Pfizer Inc.’s vaccine may have just 22.5% efficacy against symptomatic infection with the omicron variant, but can thwart severe disease, according to laboratory experiments in South Africa.

Researchers at the Africa Health Research Institute in Durban issued additional data on a small study released earlier this week from which they made an estimate of the efficacy of the vaccine using modeling.

The research considered blood plasma samples from 12 participants. Scientists found omicron resulted in about a 41-fold reduction in levels of neutralizing antibodies produced by people who had received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech SE shot, compared with the strain detected in China almost two years ago.

Pfizer Course May Have 23% Efficacy Vs. Omicron: Study

So it's looking like the designer of Omicron is a South African Nazi who most likely works for Bayer that wants to render the Pfizer vaccine useless (only 23% effective).

So is the target Pfizer? Is the target blacks with HIV in South Africa with weak immune systems? Or is this stealth Omicron something else rendering Pfizer vax 23% effective in 2-dose, 42% effective in 3-dose. Allegedly 75% effective in 4th dose, which I doubt. Probably more like 60%. Maybe Omicron is meant to target everyone vaxed with Pfizer because it looks like all Pfizer vaxxed are going to catch Omicron anyway.

Or maybe stealth Omicron is designed for Israel?

Clearly the design of Omicron is to #1) render Pfizer vax useless and #2) better evade the immune system making those with HIV having the greatest difficulty in fighting it off.