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US:all options are on the table on Ukraine?

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posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 12:24 AM
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America's military and the Western Allies/NATO couldn't have defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan. You have other developments in the middle east where Amman and Damascus are normalizing relations.

The regime change which tried to bring down the Syrian government hasn't being successful. The Syrian opposition which are mostly Jihadist Groups are still in Syria in pocket small areas.

Now you have the Biden admin which is threatening Russia that all all options are on the table on Ukraine? despite two blunders? you have the atlantic council calling this Russia's Ukraine obsession? if anyone has a obsession with Ukraine and support for neo fascists groups that would be NATO.

You had a Canadian diplomat admitting that Canada had a meeting with the Azov battalion. What's with the Western's obsession with Ukraine and its Fascist past?

US tells Russia "all options are on the table"
Vladimir Putin’s Ukraine obsession could spark a major European war


Allegations of Canadian troops training neo-Nazis and war criminals sparks military review




The Canadian military was warned in 2015 before starting its Ukraine training mission about the dangers of the far-right within the Ukrainian military ranks, but the senior leadership largely ignored those concerns.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 01:08 AM
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Foreign polices have been so FUBAR you have to wonder who is really pulling the strings other than the bankers and the NWO idiots.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 01:59 AM
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Yea after bidens pure military blunders that even david copperfield could not hide.
the capitulation to russia, china and hell even the OPEC nations
why by COMMON SENSE do you think that biden "threat" should be taken seriously by anyone above the age of maybe 2 (and thats conservatively high age)

While trump wasnt perfect , why do you think NK didnt fire off a missile "tests", that china ACTUALLY DID a trade deal favorable to US and OPEC was trying to sell oil cheap to US.

because all those (and more) countries KNEW trump would back up his words

Biden?

yea they are laughing their backsides off and flipping us the bird.
openly at that

scrounger



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 04:03 AM
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a reply to: scrounger


While trump wasnt perfect , why do you think NK didnt fire off a missile "tests"


North Korea had 17 missile tests in 2017 alone.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 06:52 AM
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Yes! It means we're back to the days of sending military aid in the form of blankets again.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 07:28 AM
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originally posted by: HawkEyi
America's military and the Western Allies/NATO couldn't have defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan. You have other developments in the middle east where Amman and Damascus are normalizing relations.

The regime change which tried to bring down the Syrian government hasn't being successful. The Syrian opposition which are mostly Jihadist Groups are still in Syria in pocket small areas.

Now you have the Biden admin which is threatening Russia that all all options are on the table on Ukraine? despite two blunders? you have the atlantic council calling this Russia's Ukraine obsession? if anyone has a obsession with Ukraine and support for neo fascists groups that would be NATO.

You had a Canadian diplomat admitting that Canada had a meeting with the Azov battalion. What's with the Western's obsession with Ukraine and its Fascist past?

US tells Russia "all options are on the table"
Vladimir Putin’s Ukraine obsession could spark a major European war


Allegations of Canadian troops training neo-Nazis and war criminals sparks military review




The Canadian military was warned in 2015 before starting its Ukraine training mission about the dangers of the far-right within the Ukrainian military ranks, but the senior leadership largely ignored those concerns.


The Ukraine is run by neo nazis. Not surprising the US supports them.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: scrounger


While trump wasnt perfect , why do you think NK didnt fire off a missile "tests"


North Korea had 17 missile tests in 2017 alone.


yes and trump told them what would happen if they backed up their threats in clear terms

then noticed they damn near stopped and WITHOUT US CAVING IN WITH "HUMANITARIAN AID"

along with it took trump oh a year to show he wasnt gonna be a pushover.

guess you missed that little time frame facts

btw you make a great cherry picking pie

scrounger



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: HawkEyi

America’s wars have been about draining the tax basin,
not about winning,but prolonging



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe
MSM paints Americans Right Wingers, others in America as Fascist, Neo Nazis while they ignore the arming of actual Neo Nazis in Eastern Europe.



posted on Nov, 29 2021 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Citation needed on Ukraine being Nazis.



posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 10:06 AM
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Its heating up over there. Im sure if there is any kind of war it will help distract from the Biden admin and everything else thats going on. Biden is supposed to have a meeting with Putin next week lets see how fruitful that will be.

thehill.com...


US intelligence says Russia planning Ukraine offensive involving 175K troops: reports



U.S. intelligence found that Russia is planning a military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops near the border as early as next year, according to an intelligence document who obtained by The Washington Post.

U.S. officials also spoke with the newspaper on the matter.

The document obtained by the Post shows Russia is planning to deploy 175,000 troops on the Ukraine border by early 2022. The document also contains satellite photos of the military buildup.



The Post reported that Russia has “newly arrived” tanks and artillery with 50 battlefield tactical groups deployed. The buildup is currently happening in four different locations on the border, according to the document.



“The Russian plans call for a military offensive against Ukraine as soon as early 2022 with a scale of forces twice what we saw this past spring during Russia’s snap exercise near Ukraine’s borders,” an administration official told the outlet. “The plans involve extensive movement of 100 battalion tactical groups with an estimated 175,000 personnel, along with armor, artillery and equipment.”



posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: HawkEyi

"America's military and the Western Allies/NATO couldn't have defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan."

There are reasons Afghanistan is referred to as "the graveyard of empires".

Also foreign governments including both our respective nations have long used the people of Afghanistan as tools for their own motivations and to bolster their geo-strategic interests.

No shame in getting your arse handed to you over there as it has happened to the best of us.
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posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: ColoradoTemplar

The issue with that Russians already know what is happening in America and West look at what Putin, and Russian officials had recently said about the wokeness, the family structure CRT and other issue.


Its a crime agaisnt humanity. That's what Putin said.

If NeoCons, war mongers those who are taking cheap shots at Russia and the other nation in Eastern Europe after two defeats? the current government in Ukraine is a puppet to NATO, EU.


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posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 10:42 AM
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Russia already had they have their red lines.

Look whose back in Libya after the 2011 Libyan intervention gaddafi's son is back in politics.
Libya is already a failed state and everyone seems to had forgotten of.


Libya is also a transit for human trafficking. No one seems to be cracking down.

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posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: yuppa

I can't say for sure that the Leaders of the Ukraine are Neo Nazis, but i can say that they have no problems using them and incorporated them into their own military.

Here's a wiki on AZOV, if that's not good enough just do your own search you'll find pages and pages about it.


Azov Special Operations Detachment (Ukrainian: Окремий загін спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: Okremyi zahin spetsialnoho pryznachennia "Azov"), often known as Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment (Ukrainian: Полк Азов, romanized: Polk Azov), or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a neo-Nazi Ukrainian National Guard unit,[1][2][3][4][5][6] based in Mariupol in the Azov Sea coastal region.[7] It saw its first combat experience recapturing Mariupol from pro-Russian separatists forces in June 2014.[3] Azov initially formed as a volunteer militia on 5 May 2014 during the Ukrainian crisis.[8] On 12 November 2014, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and since then all members are contract soldiers serving in the National Guard of Ukraine.[9]



In September 2014, the Azov battalion was expanded from a battalion to a regiment and enrolled into the National Guard of Ukraine.[24][34] At this time, the unit worked to de-politicize itself: its far-right leadership left and founded the National Corps political party,[35] which works with its associated activist organization, Azov Civil Corps.



Current status Ukraine decided to turn all volunteer battalions—both the Territorial Defence Battalions associated with the armed forces, and the Special Tasks Patrol Police of the interior ministry—into regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard, respectively. Azov is one of the latter. The Ukrainian government also opted to deploy only volunteer units to the Donbas front,[60] pledging that conscripts would not be sent into combat. In January 2015 Azov Battalion was officially upgraded to regiment and its structures took a definite shape. A mobilization center and a training facility was established in Kyiv, in former industrial complex "ATEK" for selection and examination; and the personnel, composed by volunteers from all over Ukraine, has to pass through a screening and vetting process, quite similar to army's mobilization procedures.[61] Recruits are then assigned to the combat units of the regiments, or to support and supply units, where they undertake intensive combat drills training. Reconnaissance and EOD units are considered the élite of "Azov" and are manned by most experienced personnel (typically, former Ukrainian Army special forces or similar).[61] Since 2015 the Battalion has been upgraded to regimental status and "Azov" is now officially called "Special Operations Detachment", with combat duties focused on reconnaissance, counter-reconnaissance, EOD disposal, interdiction and special weapons operations. The regiment, the only territorial defense unit of its size in the NGU, is organized into:


AZOV

For me, just like any other terrorist organization, if you allow Nazis to operate in your country, and support them in any fashion, and use them to attack other countries or defend your country, your a NAZI.


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posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 11:38 AM
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oh yeah...potus 46 and son (hunter) are favoring the Regime Change in Ukraine, all option on table (tactical atomic/nuke ?)

they already got their pay-0la transferred into western hands nicely



posted on Dec, 4 2021 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio

oh yeah...potus 46 and son (hunter) are favoring the Regime Change in Ukraine, all option on table (tactical atomic/nuke ?)

they already got their pay-0la transferred into western hands nicely


makes you wonder if Ukraine is telling Biden that if he doesnt help them against Russia that Ukraine will spill all the secrets about the Bidens dealings.



posted on Dec, 7 2021 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: ColoradoTemplar

originally posted by: St Udio

oh yeah...potus 46 and son (hunter) are favoring the Regime Change in Ukraine, all option on table (tactical atomic/nuke ?)

they already got their pay-0la transferred into western hands nicely


makes you wonder if Ukraine is telling Biden that if he doesnt help them against Russia that Ukraine will spill all the secrets about the Bidens dealings.


December 7, 2021

Later today, Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin are having a virtual/online "summit".

Smart U.S. pundits say Putin chew Biden up and spit him out: www.foxnews.com...

Russian pundits say Putin will chew Biden up and spit him out: www.thedailybeast.com...

President Biden gave Russia the green-light to supply Europe with all the OIL they want.

President Biden let Russian proxies enter and control what they want in Afghanistan.

President Biden will demand that Russia not invade Ukraine, as they're actively preparing to do. But Vladimir Putin knows Joe Biden has no stomach to put muscle behind his demands.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, maybe it's better if President Biden simply keeps America out of it?




posted on Dec, 7 2021 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: TomCollin
a reply to: yuppa

I can't say for sure that the Leaders of the Ukraine are Neo Nazis, but i can say that they have no problems using them and incorporated them into their own military.

Here's a wiki on AZOV, if that's not good enough just do your own search you'll find pages and pages about it.


Azov Special Operations Detachment (Ukrainian: Окремий загін спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: Okremyi zahin spetsialnoho pryznachennia "Azov"), often known as Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment (Ukrainian: Полк Азов, romanized: Polk Azov), or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a neo-Nazi Ukrainian National Guard unit,[1][2][3][4][5][6] based in Mariupol in the Azov Sea coastal region.[7] It saw its first combat experience recapturing Mariupol from pro-Russian separatists forces in June 2014.[3] Azov initially formed as a volunteer militia on 5 May 2014 during the Ukrainian crisis.[8] On 12 November 2014, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and since then all members are contract soldiers serving in the National Guard of Ukraine.[9]



In September 2014, the Azov battalion was expanded from a battalion to a regiment and enrolled into the National Guard of Ukraine.[24][34] At this time, the unit worked to de-politicize itself: its far-right leadership left and founded the National Corps political party,[35] which works with its associated activist organization, Azov Civil Corps.



Current status Ukraine decided to turn all volunteer battalions—both the Territorial Defence Battalions associated with the armed forces, and the Special Tasks Patrol Police of the interior ministry—into regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard, respectively. Azov is one of the latter. The Ukrainian government also opted to deploy only volunteer units to the Donbas front,[60] pledging that conscripts would not be sent into combat. In January 2015 Azov Battalion was officially upgraded to regiment and its structures took a definite shape. A mobilization center and a training facility was established in Kyiv, in former industrial complex "ATEK" for selection and examination; and the personnel, composed by volunteers from all over Ukraine, has to pass through a screening and vetting process, quite similar to army's mobilization procedures.[61] Recruits are then assigned to the combat units of the regiments, or to support and supply units, where they undertake intensive combat drills training. Reconnaissance and EOD units are considered the élite of "Azov" and are manned by most experienced personnel (typically, former Ukrainian Army special forces or similar).[61] Since 2015 the Battalion has been upgraded to regimental status and "Azov" is now officially called "Special Operations Detachment", with combat duties focused on reconnaissance, counter-reconnaissance, EOD disposal, interdiction and special weapons operations. The regiment, the only territorial defense unit of its size in the NGU, is organized into:


AZOV

For me, just like any other terrorist organization, if you allow Nazis to operate in your country, and support them in any fashion, and use them to attack other countries or defend your country, your a NAZI.




Try to understand: anyone can call anyone a Nazi. But they didn't give any information to justify the assertion that they were really Nazis.



Putin's actual justification for invading Eastern Ukraine is that the majority of the population are ethnic Russians. Sounds pretty racist to me.

(Especially when you consider that the only reason East Ukraine has that ethnic makeup is because Stalin murdered all the ethnic Ukrainians who had been living there, and then imported ethnic Russians to replace them...)



posted on Dec, 7 2021 @ 02:47 AM
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(Especially when you consider that the only reason East Ukraine has that ethnic makeup is because Stalin murdered all the ethnic Ukrainians who had been living there, and then imported ethnic Russians to replace them...)

Your history is off. Eastern Ethnic Ukrainians had existed there long before Stalin, the Eastern Ethnic Ukrainians ancestry is Rus/Russian.
Western Ukrainian are mostly Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.

As early 10th century, majority of the country is orthodox.
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