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Pentagon forms new group to investigate ufo sightings

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posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:26 PM
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The Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization was formed after officials could not explain more than 100 incidents of unidentified aerial phenomena.



The newly launched Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group, or AOIMSG, will work with other federal departments and agencies “to detect, identify and attribute objects of interest” and “mitigate any associated threats to safety of flight and national security,” Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks said in a letter to senior leadership Tuesday.






Hicks had previously expressed concern about the findings of a UAP report released by the DOD in June. The report identified 143 UAP incidents that officials said were unable to be explained after being analyzed by a UAP task force overseen by the secretary of the Navy.



Hicks told senior leadership at the time that the report “confirmed that the scope of UAP activity expands significantly beyond the purview of the Secretary of the Navy,” requiring much broader support by other federal entities. By expanding those involved, the DOD should receive reports of UAP observations within two weeks of an occurrence, she said.



There were a number of sightings that suggested evidence of a breakthrough technology:




The DOD report cited “a handful” of unexplained sightings that suggested evidence of potential “breakthrough” technology. It examined incidents reported by U.S. government sources, mostly military aviators, over nearly two decades.

“Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernible means of propulsion,” the DOD’s report said of the UAP. “In a small number of cases, military aircraft systems processed radio frequency (RF) energy associated with UAP sightings.”

source-Huffington Post


From another source, sounds like this group will be made up of both military and intel people.



The big picture: The announcement follows a widely anticipated report released in June that found 143 sightings of unexplained objects.

The report found no evidence that aliens were responsible for the sightings. Source is Axios:
The Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group will "detect, identify and attribute objects of interests" in restricted airspace, per the Defense Department's announcement.
The office was commissioned by Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks with the help of the Director of National Intelligence.

It will be made up of both intelligence agency members and military members.
What they're saying: "Incursions by any airborne object into our [restricted airspace] pose safety of flight and operations security concerns, and may pose national security challenges. DOD takes reports of incursions — by any airborne object, identified or unidentified — very seriously, and investigates each one," the announcement said.

What's next: The Pentagon said it will release more guidance in the coming weeks about how the group will be organized and what the office will be responsible for.

edit on 24pm30pm5091 by data5091 because: insertion.



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:29 PM
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And who is going to head this "new" group??? Louis Elizondo?//



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

have not seen his name in the sources I have looked at so far. But the group will be both military and intel officers.



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: data5091

To all UFO believers and researchers...Don't hold your
breathe on getting any proof of their existence made
public anytime soon.Remember the donkey and the carrot.



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:51 PM
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So we will have official reports of swamp gas and venus? Sweet!



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: data5091

My inside sources in the Pentagon are calling this new unit the
Center
Reproducible
Aeronautic
Phenomena



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
So we will have official reports of swamp gas and venus? Sweet!


Or a repeat of "No, it's a weather balloon. Capiche?"



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: data5091

My inside sources in the Pentagon are calling this new unit the
Center
Reproducible
Aeronautic
Phenomena




This time might be the last time they form a UFO study. They appear to need a home run and Alien invasion from Mars would be one sure fire way to get the people behind their lies for good. If they can get us over the hump to giving in on a few more freedoms, then they are home free.



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 11:11 PM
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How quickly people forget the black hole where millions disappeared called Project Bluebook. I expect more of the same, including 2.3 trillion 'missing' from the budget, requiring another 911 event to balance the books.



posted on Nov, 24 2021 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: data5091
The Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization was formed after officials could not explain more than 100 incidents of unidentified aerial phenomena.
One of those "more than 100 incidents of unidentified aerial phenomena." that the previous group couldn't explain looked exactly like a batman balloon. I wonder if the new group will have any better "luck" with that or some of the other more obvious reports like Corbell's "pyramid" which was just an out of focus aircraft. I also wonder if we are being played, since it's hard to believe analysts couldn't identify a batman balloon.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 12:56 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur


Ok we can all debunk those. I think the Navy footage is where you should consider the data. The US armed forces have credibility with this veteran. If my fellow veterans tell me they saw a UFO and also have footage, I will go to the wall and back with them over that data. They have no reason to tell me BS when it comes to real life danger. We don't operate that way, or we didn't.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 01:18 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman




They have no reason to tell me BS


Sure. Actually, what they are telling you is that they saw a platform or vehicle that they never saw before, and hence that they couldn't identify it. But the vehicle or platform they saw can belong to another service, another gov organization, another program, another project of which they have no right to know.

They just have to see and correctly identify the threats they were trained to identify.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: Justoneman




They have no reason to tell me BS


Sure. Actually, what they are telling you is that they saw a platform or vehicle that they never saw before, and hence that they couldn't identify it. But the vehicle or platform they saw can belong to another service, another gov organization, another program, another project of which they have no right to know.

They just have to see and correctly identify the threats they were trained to identify.


Yea, so i have been saying these UFO's are ours for the entire time I have been here on ATS but it is not officially acknowledged. These things are something we don't officially have and the fact that the footage of them with corroborating testimony is being sent to the News media is a bell weather event for UFOlogists.

What I am also trying to convey is that the false flag aliens from space war is possible here because the power grab in many places makes Hitler's Nazi's look like Nuns taking care of the needy. The apparent 2030 plan is in full motion and "by any means necessary" are the rules they play by.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 03:12 AM
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it is not officially acknowledged


It is not acknowledged for what concerns the public. But the situation is a bit more complex. 09/11 changed the rules of the game. The event was due to a clear divide between US Intelligence Community and the law enforcement agencies, so the conclusion was (and is) that there is a need to share information among all intelligence services and the law enforcement agencies. The Congress passed the Patriot Act in 2001, and the less known Homeland Security Act, a year later. What's more, it also enacted the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA).

Unknown to the public, this was seen as a threat for some of the IC guys, so there is a hidden war between services, institutions, organisms, and agencies. The IRTPA # mandates the creation of a so-called Information Sharing Environment. Those were the days the then Director of National Intelligence, Mr. McConnell, stated that we all have the responsibility to not just share information, but to provide it to whomever ask for it.

This is what Mrs. Haines is asking for today, again, though this time she has been cautious enough to slip in the extraterrestrial factor. We do own those vehicles, but I see no point in sharing that info with other agencies whose role is to prosecute criminals, and not to fight military enemies. Anyway, it seems someone leaked the videos on those vehicles to just enforce the information sharing policy... only that those opposing were clever enough to quickly sell the UAP/alien/extraterrestrial thing, which is the only thing the public buys.

Building trust requires strong leadership, and as you know there is no leadership at all these days. Therefore, the new generation vehicles will remain unacknowledged, and they will be refered to as UAPs or objects who enter Earth orbit extraterrestrially, as Mrs. Haines said.

You see, sharing certain information with the guys that pop up in the Congress once every 4 years is something some people is not ready to do, regardless of whether the new Administration is Republican or Democrat. Those are the rules they play by.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman

totally agree with you here.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 05:10 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: Arbitrageur
If my fellow veterans tell me they saw a UFO and also have footage, I will go to the wall and back with them over that data.
The pilot who made the FLIR video said he never had eyes on it and only saw the images on his screen, not the actual object.

Someone not analyzing the video carefully would see apparent acceleration, but careful analysis of the video shows no significant acceleration, it's an optical illusion resulting from loss of target lock combined with change in zoom level at the end of the video.

For the other two videos, who are the pilots and what did they say exactly about what they saw? I haven't heard from them directly, don't know the names of the pilots, and expect they did not see the objects visually, with their own eyes. Again they likely only saw what the screen recorded, which in the case of GoFast shows a phenomenon known as parallax which can give the illusion that even a balloon is going fast, and the other video named "gimbal" by the pentagon when it was released, shows a technical effect of the gimbal. If you doubt that, look at what the pentagon named the video, and think again.

So I'm afraid your post seems woefully uninformed, when you talk about trusting what your fellow vets say about what they saw in the videos, where they didn't actually see anything with their own eyes as far as I know. As one navy commander said during an interview, the eggheads who design the aircraft sensors are smarter than he is, and it's apparent the advanced sensors can fool the pilots like in the Gimbal video where the pilot saw a gimbal effect that fooled him.

John Greenewald suspects that those three videos released by the pentagon may be training videos, that they are using to train pilots on how to recognize optical illusions. It seems obvious in the name of the "gimbal" video that the pentagon knows it shows a gimbal effect, rather than a mysterios rotation of the UFO as the pilot thought when he saw his screen and said "it's rotating". If he actually did see the object with his eyes, he would see it's not rotating. Here is the video where Greenewald talks about "this probably is training material" referring to the three pentagon videos, to help pilots understand some unusual looking things they may see that illustrate various optical illusions, so they don't get fooled by the illusions:

Why Are UFO Leaks Happening? A Flashback To A Theory On WHY Which Still Rings True Today
www.youtube.com...
3:05
"What I'm trying to say, is this document here actually supports the theory that this probably is training material, part of the Rosetta stone for uncovering what is a "real UAP" and what is not. And if there's a little public deceit in the process, so be it. They've done it for 70 plus years, why not continue the trend?

I can't say if Greenewald is right about using the videos for training because the pentagon hasn't admitted it, but if they aren't doing that, they probably should be doing that. The UFOs in the pentagon videos haven't been identified, but whatever they are, they do not seem to exhibit any unusual performance characteristics. The two most likely candidates for the object in the "GoFast" video are either a balloon or a bird, and the release form for the videos that Greenewald refers to in that quote says balloons are one of the subjects in the videos, so it's hard to rule out a balloon in the GoFast video.

edit on 20211125 by Arbitrageur because: clarification



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 09:07 PM
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We have to consider that the new UFO attitude may all have to do with the maintenance of the arms industry, just in case the worst-case scenario occurs and human beings try to make peace and eliminate war and the building and stockpiling of WMDs. That would be an absolute tragedy to the IC, the US arms industry, and the MIC as a whole.

It's not enough that two nuclear-armed belligerents, China and Russia, are threatening WWIII and can for years and even decades justify the arms industry US gluttony. So just in case, the world would by happenchance become sane overnight or one fine day soon; indeed, if such a tragedy happens, well, they can always resort to the alien threat.



posted on Dec, 1 2021 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur

If the "batman balloon" was one of the cases that was moving oddly or stationary in high winds, then it wasn't JUST a "batman balloon". If the the "batman balloon" was just a normal balloon blowing in the wind, then nobody cares about it.

The fact that the "batman balloon" pic was leaked could have been an underhanded way to underplay the UAP topic. It doesn't imply that the government truly can't tell the difference between a normal balloon and a vehicle under power.

Also, IMO the leaked pic has the same shape, but with more depth than the pic of the actual batman balloon that one can buy. In the leaked pic, there appears to be side panels joining the front and the back, whereas the actual batman balloon is just a front and back sealed together with no side panels.



and No, I don't think any of the pics/videos proves anything at all about ETs...by design.


edit on 1-12-2021 by aairman23 because: added illustration for Arbit to criticize



posted on Dec, 3 2021 @ 02:56 PM
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Is anyone surprised?

www.usnews.com...



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