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New zealand government might be passing draconian laws

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posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut



If COVID-19 is cause of death on a death certificate, it is a cause of death.

Well have you seen the death certificates?
Because


The count includes all cases that died who were classified as an active case of COVID-19 at the time of death. In some of these cases, the underlying cause of death may have been unrelated to COVID-19.

is from the NZ government not me. The Covid19 death counter includes people who didnot die from covid19.

Not me fudging the numbers, it's them.
So why do you trust them?


Because it's likely that most people whose deaths are recorded as being from COVID-19, are from that. Just last week, there was a news item about someone suspected to have died at home from COVID-19 and the number of dead didn't rise to 41 until cause of death was confirmed by autopsy (I'm assuming there were lesions on the lungs).

In New Zealand, there have been 41 deaths from COVID-19. The majority of them have been hospitalized and their symptoms were clear.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 10:16 PM
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again if the government report


In some of these cases, the underlying cause of death may have been unrelated to COVID-19.


why do you believe 41 out 41 are correct covid deaths. They tell you straight up and you don't listen. Seems difficult to understand your logic.



posted on Nov, 25 2021 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

The conspiracy to sing from the same songbook is simple, they keep their jobs and get raise.



posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

The conspiracy to sing from the same songbook is simple, they keep their jobs and get raise.


But possibly end up dead? Wiped out in the great cull?

You haven't actually thought this through, have you.




posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

again if the government report


In some of these cases, the underlying cause of death may have been unrelated to COVID-19.


why do you believe 41 out 41 are correct covid deaths. They tell you straight up and you don't listen. Seems difficult to understand your logic.


And yet the symptoms of COVID-19, one of which is death, are fairly clear. Why would everyone in the healthcare industry be trying to sabotage things by faking something all the time?

Yes, they are trying to ensure that no case of COVID-19 remains at large in the community to infect others, and so they are being hyperaware of any possible case. But we both know that most of the deaths from COVID-19 are of people in hospital on a vent. They don't usually do that for people with broken legs.

Doing some additional digging in relation to NZ COVID-19 statistiacle sources, here's a link to the form that is used to populate the data into the ESR database, from which the NZ Stats published data is compiled.

I can also confirm that, according to the ESR database, 30 of the now 42 deaths from COVID-19 in New Zealand, were marked with the disease being "the primary cause of death" (from page 3 of the form, towards the top of the page).

So, in New Zealand to date; 30 have died of COVID-19 and 12 have died with COVID-19.

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posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

The people protesting, are protesting against inconveniences, and temporary ones, at that.

Civil rights violations by the government are not your "inconveniences".
People who have no rights have no issue with the government taking them.
Good luck getting them back.


You have totally drunk the cool-aid.

This kind of thing has happened multiple times in the past and has been resolved over time. Even in the USA.

What is cool-aid?


Sorry, like a silly non-American, I spelled it with an initial "C". It is Kool-Aid.


No it has not liar.


Sure, history never repeats. You'd know that from your deep studies of history.




It is repeating in crappy new zealand, and red communist poc are cheering it on and making bs excuses for human rights violations.
TLB

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posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

The people protesting, are protesting against inconveniences, and temporary ones, at that.

Civil rights violations by the government are not your "inconveniences".
People who have no rights have no issue with the government taking them.
Good luck getting them back.


You have totally drunk the cool-aid.

This kind of thing has happened multiple times in the past and has been resolved over time. Even in the USA.

What is cool-aid?


Sorry, like a silly non-American, I spelled it with an initial "C". It is Kool-Aid.


No it has not liar.


Sure, history never repeats. You'd know that from your deep studies of history.




It is repeating in crappy new zealand, and red communist poc are cheering it on and making bs excuses for human rights violations.
TLB


I don't know how to break it to you, but communism is pretty much a dead-duck in all the countries that tried it, as was the other extreme, the far-right-wing, in countries that tried that.

Most countries are now rather 'centrist', using a balance of those 19th Century ideologies. For example most countries, even previously communist ones, now embrace capitalism, but with extensive social support schemes for their populations.

It's the 21st Century now.

edit on 26/11/2021 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 01:41 PM
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You have seen official figures and constantly ignore them. you have seen nurses saying the wards are filling up with noncovid issues, which only happened after the shot went through. You have seen the underreported VERES data. You have seen many police and ambulance officers lose their jobs because they think the risk of the jab is too high. They are frontline and would know. You have seen the birth rates dropping. There is a court case with midwives quoting the live birth rate has been virtually nill after the jab.Yet still you don't think anything is wrong, your world is burning wake up.



posted on Nov, 26 2021 @ 02:20 PM
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To put it politly...BS. Why was the guy that was shot and killed added to a list of covid deaths days after he died from....GUN SHOT WOUNDS? There is a difference to dying WITH covid as opposed to dying FROM covid lol....c'mon man.



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