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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
a reply to: puzzled2
More people died in the US in 2021 from covid than 2020. In 2020 we had 0% percent vaccination rate, in 2021 we now have 60% in the US. 60% should at least put a dent in that death count. Instead it's increased.
originally posted by: OwenTrousers
so in your medial opinion, why would they seal the files for 75 years ?
a reply to: Xtrozero
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
a reply to: puzzled2
More people died in the US in 2021 from covid than 2020. In 2020 we had 0% percent vaccination rate, in 2021 we now have 60% in the US. 60% should at least put a dent in that death count. Instead it's increased.
Except that you are dealing with arithmetically increasing active case numbers, the total number of active cases (of which a percentage will die) is not staying the same.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: OwenTrousers
so in your medial opinion, why would they seal the files for 75 years ?
a reply to: Xtrozero
So someone else can't rip off their proprietary research and produce a generic copy of their product for little, or no, R&D cost.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
a reply to: puzzled2
More people died in the US in 2021 from covid than 2020. In 2020 we had 0% percent vaccination rate, in 2021 we now have 60% in the US. 60% should at least put a dent in that death count. Instead it's increased.
Except that you are dealing with arithmetically increasing active case numbers, the total number of active cases (of which a percentage will die) is not staying the same.
Yes, increasing because the vaccine doesn't do what it was supposed to do. It was advertised to stop the pandemic no matter how much memory holing is occurring.
Also, there should at least be some reduction in deaths if it works so well at preventing deaths when you have so many people vaccinated. But of course it doesn't.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
a reply to: puzzled2
More people died in the US in 2021 from covid than 2020. In 2020 we had 0% percent vaccination rate, in 2021 we now have 60% in the US. 60% should at least put a dent in that death count. Instead it's increased.
Except that you are dealing with arithmetically increasing active case numbers, the total number of active cases (of which a percentage will die) is not staying the same.
Yes, increasing because the vaccine doesn't do what it was supposed to do. It was advertised to stop the pandemic no matter how much memory holing is occurring.
Also, there should at least be some reduction in deaths if it works so well at preventing deaths when you have so many people vaccinated. But of course it doesn't.
The vaccine is working. Like all other vaccines, it isn't magic, but it will take time and people have to be cvaccinated in numbers.
Weekly case numbers are climbing (due to the epidemic spread) but weekly deaths have been reducing in every country where vaccination is approaching the 90% fully vaccinated level. It is working.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
I don't think most people understand what they mean by using the term
"Great reset".
I am scared to death for my grand children right now.
And fear breeds hate!
I will take up residence in hell before I stand by and them be vaccinated.
They want to vaccinate everyone? They're going to have to earn it.
originally posted by: chr0naut
The vaccine is working. Like all other vaccines, it isn't magic, but it will take time and people have to be cvaccinated in numbers.
Weekly case numbers are climbing (due to the epidemic spread) but weekly deaths have been reducing in every country where vaccination is approaching the 90% fully vaccinated level. It is working.
It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working...
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
originally posted by: chr0naut
The vaccine is working. Like all other vaccines, it isn't magic, but it will take time and people have to be cvaccinated in numbers.
Weekly case numbers are climbing (due to the epidemic spread) but weekly deaths have been reducing in every country where vaccination is approaching the 90% fully vaccinated level. It is working.
Could you explain why India is experiencing a consistently big rise in Covid deaths despite no corresponding rise in cases? Perhaps it's because they use the viral vector jab AstraZeneca - now cast into the wilderness by the Western world despite the Oxford-developed jab being the Pride Of Britain 11 months ago, and millions jabbed with it... until suddenly it was the black sheep of vaccines. Nobody talks about it; brushed under the carpet after excess associated side-effects and deaths.
Was AZ working? Or is that not the most important question of all?
It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It Is Working. It is Working...
No matter how many times it is said, it is never convincing.
Subtle analysis is required. In the UK (where I live, so I'll stick to that example), we have relaxed Covid rules since so-called 'Freedom Day' on 19th July. Since then, cases have fluctuated between 30K and 40K, with the highest number of Covid deaths per head of pop than anyone else in Europe (15K+) and higher than the same period in 2020 when we were jab-free.
Covid is now the leading cause of mortality in Europe once again. The point is the UK hasn't experienced a Wave since July; this is what people call 'Living With Covid' at the cost of 1K+ dead a week. Now a new Wave from Eastern Europe IS driving through, and it will reach our shores, although it's possible the current surge in UK infections is the start of it.
Another subtle point always missed is that UK testing is at LEAST between 2 to 4 times more than what it was in Autumn last year. So 40K+ is often the equivalent of 10K-20K in old money. The number of hospitalisations and deaths correlate as before on that basis, so it is therefore infections in the range of 70K+ that would truly test vaccine efficacy in a level playing field similar to 2020. Nothing has really changed (aside from vaccine side-effect victims such as my best friend in the UK who has suffered a palsy condition since his Pfizer shot in Spring, privately medically assessed as vaccine-related).
But what a new wave WILL do is test your "It Is Working" mantra to the full over the next 12 weeks. We'll speak again after that dust settles.
India has abandoned the Ivermectin and HQC treatments as being statistically proven to ineffective, and yet new cases continue to reduce.
Recommending that Ivermectin be dropped from the clinical guidance, experts cited 13 systematic reviews of which “7/13 showed mortality benefit, 4/13 no mortality benefit, 2/13 inconclusive/unclear.”
On November 16, only 273 new cases were reported. Just a week later it had reached 1,275 then doubled to 2,465 the following day.
Dr Phaahla said that was when scientists told the government of their concern that Omicron was driving the spike in cases.
originally posted by: jidnum
Fact of the matter is they are doing Trials along side real world subjects. That's not how Trials work, it's either ready for use or still in testing, right now its still in testing and it's the largest human trials in history. Nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise and if they think you can have a trial for a drug AND distribute that same one to millions of people and label the process differently then those people have some serious issues with logic, you can't do both at the same time, that would be a literal contradiction to what a trial is and what the already tested product is.