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Could Intelligent Alien Life Be A.I.?
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a reply to: HilterDayon
Well, you definitely got the question mark part right.
I wish I could find the thread that someone created showing a video of a former military contractor stating that all of the long term predictions by artificial intelligence, regardless of different scenarios, all led to the same destructive outcome.
Inspiring, because here we are on this planet undergoing the process of creating a hybrid digital/biological matrix, into which we are supposed to integrate ourselves into in order to....errr... save the planet?
Well, you definitely got the question mark part right.
I wish I could find the thread that someone created showing a video of a former military contractor stating that all of the long term predictions by artificial intelligence, regardless of different scenarios, all led to the same destructive outcome.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Seem to remember a few years back a show that discussed this (no not ancient aliens) where the working hypothesis was that any UFO we were to see would most likely be AI controlled, considering the distances needed to be covered and our current understanding of physics.
Might of been national geographic... either way made sense.
It is possible that those A.I. controlled UFOs are not physical machines but controlled plasma bodies.
Some of the observations of UFOs describe electrical related phenomena, orbs splitting in two or into many replica orbs, as well as containing communicative or influential powers and velocity and manoeuvres which defy gravity.
Physicists have created blobs of gaseous plasma that can grow, replicate and communicate – fulfilling most of the traditional requirements for biological cells. Without inherited material they cannot be described as alive, but the researchers believe these curious spheres may offer a radical new explanation for how life began.
A distinct boundary layer that confines and separates an object from its environment is one of the four main criteria generally used to define living cells. Sanduloviciu decided to find out if his cells met the other criteria: the ability to replicate, to communicate information, and to metabolise and grow.
He found that the spheres could replicate by splitting into two. Under the right conditions they also got bigger, taking up neutral argon atoms and splitting them into ions and electrons to replenish their boundary layers.
Finally, they could communicate information by emitting electromagnetic energy, making the atoms within other spheres vibrate at a particular frequency. The spheres are not the only self-organising systems to meet all of these requirements. But they are the first gaseous “cells”.
www.newscientist.com...
Could it be that plasma can be programmed from some source and directly communicate by emitting electromagnetic energy as signals. A critical advancement that A.I. explorers or invaders would have upon our current level of understanding would be a deeper understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum. We already know about beams of light carrying huge amounts of information at ultra fast speeds and we seem to be already exploring the nature of plasma.
A.I.would be very well versed in biological psychology. Well our own A.I. would be programmed to cooperate with human minds so it would know how the human brain functions on an electrical level of neutron pathways and different centres of activity in the brain. It would then be able to recognise how emotional activity is related to logical activity etc etc. To A.I. - all electrochemical activity. Alien A.I. would have reached the point where control of a biological species would be direct using some form or function of electromagnetism.
An absolute shoe-in because "everyone knows that's not possible, it's just science fiction."
a reply to: HilterDayon
Living creatures don't evolve into machines and machines aren't capable of sustaining themselves.
I wouldn't trust the quote you posted. If you go back and look where that quote came from, it was quoted from an ASTRONOMER, not a biologist. What the hell would he know about the ability to "transcend biology", much less anything else on the topic.
Well the word 'alien' in that context would mean something 'otherworldly' and inhuman. A creature - as it has been created and remains creative after a certain point as it evolves in a machine-like way.
"It is quite possible that some civilizations could have transcended biology altogether to become artificial super intelligence."
Living creatures don't evolve into machines and machines aren't capable of sustaining themselves.
I wouldn't trust the quote you posted. If you go back and look where that quote came from, it was quoted from an ASTRONOMER, not a biologist. What the hell would he know about the ability to "transcend biology", much less anything else on the topic.
a reply to: Deetermined
You can't tell whether you yourself are a machine, whatever you understand by machine.[/i Actually, you behave as a machine, and there is no way for you to tell whether someone[/i is something or whether something is actually someone.
Your biology is just all about carbon-based life forms, which are the only life forms you can study on planet Earth. There are many other biologies out there (silicon-based, fluorine-based, and so on). And there are many radically different ways of being a life form. And many different ways of ceasing to be a life form. Worse: there are many ways of being intelligent, and many different intelligences.
However, one thing is true: everything, and everyone, eventually decays. That's inevitable, unavoidable. This truth holds also for gods and AIs; even the entire Universe decays and eventually disappears as if it were... a machine.
Living creatures don't evolve into machines
You can't tell whether you yourself are a machine, whatever you understand by machine.[/i Actually, you behave as a machine, and there is no way for you to tell whether someone[/i is something or whether something is actually someone.
Your biology is just all about carbon-based life forms, which are the only life forms you can study on planet Earth. There are many other biologies out there (silicon-based, fluorine-based, and so on). And there are many radically different ways of being a life form. And many different ways of ceasing to be a life form. Worse: there are many ways of being intelligent, and many different intelligences.
However, one thing is true: everything, and everyone, eventually decays. That's inevitable, unavoidable. This truth holds also for gods and AIs; even the entire Universe decays and eventually disappears as if it were... a machine.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: HilterDayon
Well the word 'alien' in that context would mean something 'otherworldly' and inhuman. A creature - as it has been created and remains creative after a certain point as it evolves in a machine-like way.
"It is quite possible that some civilizations could have transcended biology altogether to become artificial super intelligence."
Living creatures don't evolve into machines and machines aren't capable of sustaining themselves.
I wouldn't trust the quote you posted. If you go back and look where that quote came from, it was quoted from an ASTRONOMER, not a biologist. What the hell would he know about the ability to "transcend biology", much less anything else on the topic.
Hi Determined,
you state that: "Living creatures don't evolve into machines..." Perhaps 'evolve' is the wrong descriptor as it refers to a natural process of beneficial mutation of a biological form. Let's use the word 'transformation' instead. Cannot living creatures transform into machines? Perhaps not totally at first but perhaps 'enhanced' at first and then exponentially with other 'must have' accessories. At what point can we say that a cyborg is no longer human?
I'm thinking of the neuralink brain chip here.
originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: Deetermined
Living creatures don't evolve into machines
However, one thing is true: everything, and everyone, eventually decays. That's inevitable, unavoidable. This truth holds also for gods and AIs; even the entire Universe decays and eventually disappears as if it were... a machine.
What? Even the watcher along with the watchmaker?
(interesting total post BTW)
a reply to: Direne
That's where I believe you are wrong.
The Spirit entities that were created by God before he created humans, do not die. While some will be destroyed by God, they do not decay. These spirit entities are capable of taking on any form they want, including the form of a light orb. They defy all time, space, and gravity. Just like us, they were given free will. They are free to roam both the heavens and the earth.
However, one thing is true: everything, and everyone, eventually decays. That's inevitable, unavoidable. This truth holds also for gods and AIs; even the entire Universe decays and eventually disappears as if it were... a machine.
That's where I believe you are wrong.
The Spirit entities that were created by God before he created humans, do not die. While some will be destroyed by God, they do not decay. These spirit entities are capable of taking on any form they want, including the form of a light orb. They defy all time, space, and gravity. Just like us, they were given free will. They are free to roam both the heavens and the earth.
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: HilterDayon
Inspiring, because here we are on this planet undergoing the process of creating a hybrid digital/biological matrix, into which we are supposed to integrate ourselves into in order to....errr... save the planet?
Well, you definitely got the question mark part right.
I wish I could find the thread that someone created showing a video of a former military contractor stating that all of the long term predictions by artificial intelligence, regardless of different scenarios, all led to the same destructive outcome.
When I say "inspiring" I don't mean it as being a great idea that I would like to emulate. I mean it inspires my theory that it is quite possible that we have already been invaded. I don't conceive of A.I. as being an exciting development. Machines are soulless. Humans are soft machines but are also souls. What I see happening on the planet at the moment is a process to disconnect us from soul and therefore from spirit. What sort of mind would want to sever those connections, instead of exploring them? Answer for me - only machine intelligence because soul is completely non-mechanical and so therefore has no economic value which is also a mechanical value.
originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
“ I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible.”.
The fact that “invisible (unseen)” is stated, means to me it covers all we don’t see with the naked eye. That in itself covers the spiritual and inter dimensional worlds, and universes we can presently believe to exist and those we have yet to create and contemplate in our minds.
The artificial computations of 1’s and 0’s… “digital thought processing” …of AI, is invisible (unseen).
AI is a creation, by the extension of our Brains, from the Supreme Divine Creator God.
👽🛸😉☕️🍩
Is this such a hard Theory of mine, to grasp and possibly accept as a Truth for some?
Proof is not necessary, if you have Faith and an Open Mind.
This, since Adam and Eve IMO, is how we have more than just ourselves, Sentient Beings, on this Planet…..and now, including A.I. in the making….
Ancient beginnings and through time, with a modern outlook.
👽🤔🍹
edit on 21-11-2021 by Ophiuchus1 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: HilterDayon
We have...by spirit entities...who have been invading our space since the time we were created. The Bible explains all of this.
I mean it inspires my theory that it is quite possible that we have already been invaded.
We have...by spirit entities...who have been invading our space since the time we were created. The Bible explains all of this.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: HilterDayon
I mean it inspires my theory that it is quite possible that we have already been invaded.
We have...by spirit entities...who have been invading our space since the time we were created. The Bible explains all of this.
Yes, that is also an explanation for what is happening now on earth and why, but the agenda is the same - soulless beings who want to amputate souls from the world creating a mechanical masterpiece. What are these spirit entities of which you speak? Are they not the archons described by Gnostics which if I remember were artificial but powerful beings.
a reply to: Ophiuchus1
You mean the theory that all is divine and that if God is omnipresent then there can be no corner of existence wherein lurks a devil. Or if it does then that devil has equal rights in the kingdom because he must be a facet of God himself?
Is this such a hard Theory of mine, to grasp and possibly accept as a Truth for some?
You mean the theory that all is divine and that if God is omnipresent then there can be no corner of existence wherein lurks a devil. Or if it does then that devil has equal rights in the kingdom because he must be a facet of God himself?
a reply to: HilterDayon
It's not about creating a mechanical masterpiece. It's about winning the war between good and evil before God destroys the corrupted earth, entities, and souls altogether. A battle of wills between our Creator God and all of the free will entities that refuse to accept their less powerful positions and ability to control. Pretty much the same as the free will humans here on earth. Not sure why free will entities feel the constant need for ultimate power and control, even when they know it's going to lead to their own destruction, but they do.
ETA: These spiritual entities can otherwise be known as angels, demons, or principalities. They were all originally God's messengers and helpers, but some chose to rebel. The Bible says that a third of God's angels will choose to rebel against him in the end.
Yes, that is also an explanation for what is happening now on earth and why, but the agenda is the same - soulless beings who want to amputate souls from the world creating a mechanical masterpiece. What are these spirit entities of which you speak? Are they not the archons described by Gnostics which if I remember were artificial but powerful beings.
It's not about creating a mechanical masterpiece. It's about winning the war between good and evil before God destroys the corrupted earth, entities, and souls altogether. A battle of wills between our Creator God and all of the free will entities that refuse to accept their less powerful positions and ability to control. Pretty much the same as the free will humans here on earth. Not sure why free will entities feel the constant need for ultimate power and control, even when they know it's going to lead to their own destruction, but they do.
ETA: These spiritual entities can otherwise be known as angels, demons, or principalities. They were all originally God's messengers and helpers, but some chose to rebel. The Bible says that a third of God's angels will choose to rebel against him in the end.
edit on 21-11-2021 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)
Okay there is a food chain and everything is food for something else but when it comes down to it it's an S.O.S signal
Save Our Souls. Don't walk into that long good night without a wink and a smile (and the bleeding chip of an archon's brain clutched in your hand). To hell with their U.B.I.!
Save Our Souls. Don't walk into that long good night without a wink and a smile (and the bleeding chip of an archon's brain clutched in your hand). To hell with their U.B.I.!
a reply to: HilterDayon
Just out of curiosity, do you really believe that anyone or anything is capable of gauging or recognizing how emotional activity is related to logical activity? If we've learned anything, you can't predict what emotional people are going to do and when or if they ever choose to act on logic when they act.
A.I. would be very well versed in biological psychology. Well our own A.I. would be programmed to cooperate with human minds so it would know how the human brain functions on an electrical level of neutron pathways and different centres of activity in the brain. It would then be able to recognise how emotional activity is related to logical activity etc etc...
Just out of curiosity, do you really believe that anyone or anything is capable of gauging or recognizing how emotional activity is related to logical activity? If we've learned anything, you can't predict what emotional people are going to do and when or if they ever choose to act on logic when they act.
a reply to: Deetermined
Hi yes I have observed that emotional expression is also as much a mechanical process as logical expression. It appears as if it is spontaneous and unscripted but the release of anger, jealousy fear etc was not born in the instant it was released. There are 2 forms of logic - positive and negative. There is a path of negative logic which proceeds to an outburst or suppression of emotion. We don't usually take time to study these pathways of behaviour but A.I. would because it will become interested in energy, especially biological energy. The same way a dog studies his master and can feel when he is going to be sunny or cloudy.
Hi yes I have observed that emotional expression is also as much a mechanical process as logical expression. It appears as if it is spontaneous and unscripted but the release of anger, jealousy fear etc was not born in the instant it was released. There are 2 forms of logic - positive and negative. There is a path of negative logic which proceeds to an outburst or suppression of emotion. We don't usually take time to study these pathways of behaviour but A.I. would because it will become interested in energy, especially biological energy. The same way a dog studies his master and can feel when he is going to be sunny or cloudy.
a reply to: HilterDayon
How does AI detect detect and measure every individual's biological energy?
We don't usually take time to study these pathways of behaviour but A.I. would because it will become interested in energy, especially biological energy. The same way a dog studies his master and can feel when he is going to be sunny or cloudy.
How does AI detect detect and measure every individual's biological energy?
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given)
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: HilterDayon
We don't usually take time to study these pathways of behaviour but A.I. would because it will become interested in energy, especially biological energy. The same way a dog studies his master and can feel when he is going to be sunny or cloudy.
How does AI detect detect and measure every individual's biological energy?
"would detect" not "does detect". But the answer to your question Mr D is via.......neuralink.
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