Are We going to War with China or What?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I’ve said it years ago on here. War with China isn’t just about Taiwan. China is running out of water!
It doesn’t matter if they have flooding, their water is pure poison. Making all that crap for the world has taken a toll on their water supply. I’ve read 75% or more of their underground water supply is not suitable for humans!!!!!! ☠️
Even in the US we have forever chemicals in our water supply. Now think about China and what is over there!
All those people, one FIFTH of the population of earth, and most their water is not suitable for drinking, what is going to happen?
They would be crazy NOT to go to war… This is about survival…

taking over North America for it's water would be utter nonsense. not only would shipping that much water Across the Pacific be a logistical nightmare, one requiring a huge fleet of oil tanker size/type ships, a fleet that would require billions of tons of fuel. but is economically unsound as well. it would be far cheaper, not to mention easier and much more feasible logistically, to build desalination plants and operate them. in fact likely the most expensive part of getting clean, freshwater to the interior of China where it is most needed would be the pipelines to carry the water from the coasts. something that would be equally needed regardless of if they transported water from North America, or used desalination plants.

so even though China has apparently been stealing water from the great lakes for decades, taking over North America for it's water is just sheer stupidity. and would in fact "be crazy" to go to war over.

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
He mentioned something about how much water Nestlé pumps out of the Great lakes and hiw much of that goes to China.

The majority of US water exports go to Japan in the form of bottled water, China is not even close to what Japan consumes.

a reply to: andy06shake

I've always wondered what weight our debt to China really carries. Not saying it's right or wrong, but what happens when they want to collect and we say, "no"?

The need for war returns? I mean, what do they do?

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
Not saying it's right or wrong, but what happens when they want to collect and we say, "no"?

It doesn't work that way, Treasury Bonds have a specified payoff date and you cannot collect earlier. The US refusing to pay obligations will impact the Treasury Bond market to the point where other purchasers would become wary of assuming the bonds for fear of intentional default.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

If China called in it's debt the U.S. interest rates and prices would rise substantially thus slow economic growth.

Also if the USA refused to pay the administration would not be able to borrow additional monies and funds to meet its obligations because nobody would be willing to lend to them.

You simply cannot beat the bankers filthyphilanthropist, one way or the other "they" will have their pound of flesh.

Would explain the rapid pull out of Afghanistan.....If old Joe would have practiced that "rapid pullout" maneuver back in the day....we all would bothered by Hunter & his art & drugs & numerous kids & shady china deals///etc etc etc.

originally posted by: andy06shake
If China called in it's debt the U.S. interest rates and prices would rise substantially thus slow economic growth.

China cannot 'call in it's debt', that's not how bonds work.

Have to think like the mic, what would make the most money on what weapon or new technology that they want to test by killing people with?


Sorry Major run on, no coffee yet.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



My understanding is that bonds are essentially a form of a loan, agreed to be payed back, at face value, by a specific date.

originally posted by: andy06shake
My understanding is that bonds are essentially a form of a loan, agreed to be payed back, at face value, by a specific date.

With interest. The typical bond is the 30 Year Treasury.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's always in there somewhere, interest that is, aka "pound of flesh".

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
China can't exist without the US. We can't exist either. Both countries would suffer brutally. Like massive starvation level, crime, murder. The US makes literally nothing. China makes almost everything but not enough people with money to buy it. The whole planet would also suffer. Nobody would escape the devastation unless they had food and water supplies for years which is almost nobody.

Well if the UN want a green planet they would want to eliminate the 2 giants that have the larger footprint. With them taking strips from each other another force could swoop in and take control.

All signs point to a War.

a reply to: Nirishman

Taking out Russia and China will get you a green planet all right.

One that glows in the dark for the next 10,000 years or so that is.

Its still a M.A.D would you see hence no point in world war, because there are simply no spoils to be had.

as has been pointed out, logistics make mass water transport unlikely.
any lakes in Russia within marching distance?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

China has a history of opportunistic preemptive attacks which are based on the strategy and mindset that if they overwhelm a particular target that they won't be challenged for fear of full scale war.

examples???

a reply to: ElGoobero

as has been pointed out, logistics make mass water transport unlikely.

Hard to bring the water to the people over and over,

But………….

Easy to bring the people to the water once…………..

We never have been nor will we ever go to war with China. There is no reason for it.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
China told its people to stock up on goods for the “winter”
Australia is double dog daring the US and China to go at it.

Biden and China are meeting so there aren’t any “misunderstandings” and clashes.

We’re screwed aren’t we?


I’ve said it years ago on here. War with China isn’t just about Taiwan. China is running out of water!
It doesn’t matter if they have flooding, their water is pure poison. Making all that crap for the world has taken a toll on their water supply. I’ve read 75% or more of their underground water supply is not suitable for humans!!!!!! ☠️
Even in the US we have forever chemicals in our water supply. Now think about China and what is over there!
All those people, one FIFTH of the population of earth, and most their water is not suitable for drinking, what is going to happen?
They would be crazy NOT to go to war… This is about survival…

More likely Biden will just surrender America to them if they ask for it

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
We never have been nor will we ever go to war with China. There is no reason for it.

There are hundreds of thousands of reasons for it.

wait a minute. who else will take all your byproduct of petrol industry waste then sell it back to you recycled as toys by next Christmas? Run by USA corporations profiteers and racketeers? ¿?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JinMI

Weird that we allow non citizens to own property within our borders.

Been complaining about that since the 80's and not a damn thing has changed