Minnesota Covid data vaccinated vs unvaccinated

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

Perhaps it depends on how much you like your job!

Has the Doctor told you to wait - either for the more traditional vaccines, or for long-term data on the current crop?

Yes, that is basically what my doctor suggested. I have been with my doctor for quite awhile now. He is a straight shooter and doesn't milk my health insurance benefits just because he could. I have went to him a few times expecting all sorts of testing and he has fixed me up in other ways. Example, I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about 10 years ago. After a hospital stay, I was sent to a specialist who suggested an insulin pump. When I saw my doctor he said no way and said I could fix it myself through diet. I went from 260 pds to my current weight of 180 pds and have zero blood sugar issues any longer. I trust my doctor as he has never steered me wrong.

Also, I am not anti-vax. If my doctor would have suggested that I take the vax I would have taken it with no problem.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Shrugs

When you getting your booster shot?

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People

news.yahoo.com...


On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times' podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital."

When and if it's required.

Why wouldn't I?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Why would I get any vaccine when I am in an age group at very low risk (more likely to die in a car accident and I drive every day) gone this long and haven’t caught Covid trying to live a normal life? With once acquired, natural immunity being better? I don’t wear a mask. But supposedly masks are 80 percent effective?

Rochelle Walensky, MD, MPH
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Masks can help reduce your chance of #COVID19 infection by more than 80%.
Masks also help protect from other illnesses like common cold and flu. Wearing a mask- along w/ getting vaccinated- are important steps to stay healthy. #WeCanDoThis
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So masks are more effective than waning vaccines?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Good luck with getting a booster every four to six months. Sounds like a subscription plan?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Shrugs

When you getting your booster shot?

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People

news.yahoo.com...


On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times' podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital."

When and if it's required.

Why wouldn't I?

Because Fauci said so?

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Shrugs

When you getting your booster shot?

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People

news.yahoo.com...


On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times' podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital."

When and if it's required.

Why wouldn't I?

Because Fauci said so?

What's it got to do with him?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Good luck with getting a booster every four to six months. Sounds like a subscription plan?

No not really.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What official numbers do you trust, post them in the format I used, let's see them.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Here’s Who May Need a Fourth COVID-19 Vaccine Dose

www.healthline.com...

In updated guidelines released this week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)Trusted Source said certain people who received the Moderna or Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine will be eligible for a fourth dose.

A vaccine so effective that a fourth dose is being recommended in less than a year?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What official numbers do you trust, post them in the format I used, let's see them.

The same as the real world. Data that is verified and audited by a third party.

What audit does the heath departments undergo to ensure accuracy? Or they just self regulating with only relying if a whistleblower sounds the alarm?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Here’s Who May Need a Fourth COVID-19 Vaccine Dose

www.healthline.com...

In updated guidelines released this week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)Trusted Source said certain people who received the Moderna or Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine will be eligible for a fourth dose.

A vaccine so effective that a fourth dose is being recommended in less than a year?

The CDCTrusted Source has found reduced vaccine effectiveness in people who are immunocompromised compared with people who are not. It now advises that certain people who are immunocompromised can get a fourth vaccine dose.

Do you oppose trying to protect the most vulnerable?

a reply to: ScepticScot

The propaganda of the vaccine has gone from Biden stating

Remarks by President Biden in a CNN Town Hall with Don Lemon

www.whitehouse.gov...

You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

To:

It now advises that certain people who are immunocompromised can get a fourth vaccine dose.

In less than a year….

a reply to: ScepticScot

But those with a memory also remember

Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

www.washingtonpost.com...

So? It’s ok to be “vaccine” hesitant when it’s a Democrat and it’s political convenient?

But a person that questions the vaccine when a four booster might be needed, and it’s making billions for big pharmaceutical caught in the past cooking studies for profit is a”crazy conspiracist”…

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

The propaganda of the vaccine has gone from Biden stating

Remarks by President Biden in a CNN Town Hall with Don Lemon

www.whitehouse.gov...

You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

To:

It now advises that certain people who are immunocompromised can get a fourth vaccine dose.

In less than a year….

Lifting one line out of a speech and comparing it to the medical advise for a particular high risk subset of people.

Seems valid...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

But those with a memory also remember

Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

www.washingtonpost.com...

So? It’s ok to be “vaccine” hesitant when it’s a Democrat and it’s political convenient?

But a person that questions the vaccine when a four booster might be needed, and it’s making billions for big pharmaceutical caught in the past cooking studies for profit is a”crazy conspiracist”…

I don't take my medical advice from either Trump or Biden.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

The propaganda of the vaccine has gone from Biden stating

Remarks by President Biden in a CNN Town Hall with Don Lemon

www.whitehouse.gov...

You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

To:

It now advises that certain people who are immunocompromised can get a fourth vaccine dose.

In less than a year….

Lifting one line out of a speech and comparing it to the medical advise for a particular high risk subset of people.

Seems valid...

It was a blatant statement made by the President of the USA. If he is willing to lie, sets the tone. And makes you wonder who else will lie.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

But those with a memory also remember

Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

www.washingtonpost.com...

So? It’s ok to be “vaccine” hesitant when it’s a Democrat and it’s political convenient?

But a person that questions the vaccine when a four booster might be needed, and it’s making billions for big pharmaceutical caught in the past cooking studies for profit is a”crazy conspiracist”…

I don't take my medical advice from either Trump or Biden.

But you do have to follow Biden’s health related mandates…. Or there will be consequences.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

S & F.

Great thread.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

But those with a memory also remember

Biden questions whether a vaccine approved by Trump would be safe

www.washingtonpost.com...

So? It’s ok to be “vaccine” hesitant when it’s a Democrat and it’s political convenient?

But a person that questions the vaccine when a four booster might be needed, and it’s making billions for big pharmaceutical caught in the past cooking studies for profit is a”crazy conspiracist”…

I don't take my medical advice from either Trump or Biden.

But you do have to follow Biden’s health related mandates…. Or there will be consequences.

I really don't.

Well. I guess your special. The majority of working Americans that keep America going are not as fortunate.