EU, Belarus ( and Russia) on the brink of war

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Poland does what American admins say they would do regardless. Poland hosts a number of American bases.

Thanks for sharing this by the way.
I don't have cable or any streaming services so I get my news from ATS

a reply to: dollukka

a reply to: HawkEyi

Our presence there does not demean or limit Poland's border policies.

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: RussianTroll

Migrate lawfully or don't migrate at all.

That's all I have to say.

I am sick of people taking advantage of kinder nations when my wife did it legally and expensively.

We do need to crack down harder in the US and I support Poland for supporting it's integrity.

I also support. I agree with you, this may be paradoxical for you. But all the questions are about EU legislation. Migrants use it, they are assisted by European lawyers, whose work is paid for by European funds. To Belarus, and even more to Russia, what questions can you have?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Neighboring countries know what Russia is made of, they have learnt it in a hard way. Your reply is only a propaganda and whitewashing what Russia has done for decades and generations, ask their neighboring countries what they think of Russia and how they managed under Russian rule. When they were second class citizens in the country of their ancestors and they had just minimal rights.. this is what Russia was and will be if others let them.

Belarus migrants: Poland PM blames Russia's Putin for migrant crisis

BBC

Merkel appeals to Putin to intervene in Belarus border crisis
LINK
.... which Putin is not doing as he gives 100% to Belarus

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Neighboring countries know what Russia is made of, they have learnt it in a hard way. Your reply is only a propaganda and whitewashing what Russia has done for decades and generations, ask their neighboring countries what they think of Russia and how they managed under Russian rule. When they were second class citizens in the country of their ancestors and they had just minimal rights.. this is what Russia was and will be if others let them.

Belarus migrants: Poland PM blames Russia's Putin for migrant crisis

BBC

Merkel appeals to Putin to intervene in Belarus border crisis
LINK
.... which Putin is not doing as he gives 100% to Belarus

What do they know? Specific evidence in the studio.
Soon you will accuse Russia and Putin of not being able to sleep in your wife)))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

really ?
Didn´t know i had a wife...

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

really ?
Didn´t know i had a wife...

I sincerely sympathize with you))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

Don´t be .. i have a husband.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Don´t be .. i have a husband.

Yes, it is now fashionable in the West))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

Not familiar with that, but you seem to make quite interesting assumptions... never judge a book by its cover

a reply to: dollukka

It is difficult for me to navigate in the legislation of the United States and the European Union, where more than 50 gender individuals have already been legally adopted. We Russians are accustomed to man and woman, wife and husband. So I'm sorry if I didn't understand your numerous gender differences))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

No question

Only answer

Disband the EU

It is terrible

For multiple reasons we both know

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: RussianTroll

No question

Only answer

Disband the EU

It is terrible

For multiple reasons we both know

I don’t know, alas. And the Russians don't know. It's hard for me to comment on your assumptions))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

Whatever

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RIGHT now

Belarus threatens to cut off gas to EU in border row

BBC

Belarus's leader has threatened to cut off gas supplies to Europe if sanctions are imposed over an escalating migrant crisis at the country's border.

Thousands of people are at the border with Poland, enduring freezing conditions in the hope of crossing into the European Union.

EU officials have accused Belarus of provoking the crisis to undermine its security, an allegation it denies.

In retaliation, the EU is reportedly planning a fresh package of sanctions.

But on Thursday the country's long-time authoritarian leader Alexander Lukashenko warned: "If they impose additional sanctions on us... we must respond."

"We are heating Europe, and they are threatening us," he said, referring to a Russian gas pipeline that runs through Belarus and into the EU.

"And what if we halt natural gas supplies? Therefore, I would recommend the leadership of Poland, Lithuanians and other empty-headed people to think before speaking," he added.
Map showing pipelines through Belarus

Sounds to me like Belarus has just become the newest multi-cultural country in Europe. Congratulations?

So. Since Belarus allowed those people to enter, that is where they can seek shelter from abusive homeland politics, bad weather, whatever.

The EU and its member states are under ZERO obligation to bring those migrants over the Polish or Lithuanian borders, as Belarus is VERY capable of sheltering and assisting those people. If the migrants do not wish to remain in Belarus, that is NOT the EU's problem; it is on Belarus to return them to their homelands.

This is nothing but a bad gambit by the leader of Belarus. Not only is he not going to succeed in getting many people across that border, he is going to have a migrant issue within his own country, AND he is going to surrender a lot of independence to Moscow because he won't want to have go eye to eye with NATO without Putin's forces in his country. Stupid plus on his part. It may make him feel powerful at the moment, but the long term reality will be one he won't be fond of.

On the part of the EU, all this will accomplish is make them focus more on political realities instead of ideological tail-chasing.

Cheers

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Whatever

back to topic


RIGHT now

Belarus threatens to cut off gas to EU in border row

BBC

Belarus's leader has threatened to cut off gas supplies to Europe if sanctions are imposed over an escalating migrant crisis at the country's border.

Thousands of people are at the border with Poland, enduring freezing conditions in the hope of crossing into the European Union.

EU officials have accused Belarus of provoking the crisis to undermine its security, an allegation it denies.

In retaliation, the EU is reportedly planning a fresh package of sanctions.

But on Thursday the country's long-time authoritarian leader Alexander Lukashenko warned: "If they impose additional sanctions on us... we must respond."

"We are heating Europe, and they are threatening us," he said, referring to a Russian gas pipeline that runs through Belarus and into the EU.

"And what if we halt natural gas supplies? Therefore, I would recommend the leadership of Poland, Lithuanians and other empty-headed people to think before speaking," he added.
Map showing pipelines through Belarus

I am a citizen of Russia, not of Belarus. I cannot comment. But if the EU introduces general sanctions against Belarus, then it is logical to assume. that Belarus will also impose sanctions against Europe. Or not?)))

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The EU and its member states are under ZERO obligation to bring those migrants over the Polish or Lithuanian borders, as Belarus is VERY capable of sheltering and assisting those people. If the migrants do not wish to remain in Belarus, that is NOT the EU's problem; it is on Belarus to return them to their homelands.

Hooah!

This guy is not thinking critically.
It will just make Belarus worse .

a reply to: chris_stibrany

I never liked EU... but
Never let countries like Russia or Belarus think they should do it for them..
EU can and will die for its own impotence in time.. but the time is not now. It should be well handled break not a chaos.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Poland does what American admins say they would do regardless. Poland hosts a number of American bases.

Oh yeah I do apologise I just forgot that Poles got far more than they bargained for when they decided they wanted real Levi jeans and a little freedom

Freedom as in the hidden hand passed from one superpower to another