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How Does Being Dependent on Foreign Oil Help Climate Change?

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posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 02:08 AM
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We have all heard every claim from the far left how oil is evil for the planet and we need to not depend on it. Which by itself is false since electric cars need replacements of batteries very frequently, plus you need oil to build them, and these batteries are more dangerous to the environment than the clean oil, coal the U.S. has been producing.

Since the start of the criminal Biden administration they have been making sure the U.S. is dependent of OPEC, which includes Russia. Yet to get that oil to the U.S. you need to use more oil in cargo ships and with trucks. Remember that many refineries in the U.S. are in the same states/areas in the U.S. where the oil used to be extracted from, but now once the oil gets to our ports, you need more oil to get that OPEC oil throughout the U.S. Not to mention the fact that the oil produced by OPEC is far more dirty than the oil we produced.

So can progressives/far leftists/anti-Trumpers explain how is it any better to rely on oil from other countries, or from car batteries which China will be making for electric cars which needs their oil to be produced and their oil is also dirtier than the oil we used to refine extracted in the U.S.?

This makes no sense whatsoever. Climate Change is being used to help ENEMIES of the U.S. including Russia, China, and Iran. But in the end we will continue to use oil. Remember that criminal White House occupier Biden has begged for OPEC to produce and put in the market more of their oil so we could buy it and use it in the U.S.

But hey, this is the same as criminal Biden going to a Climate Change meeting in what was it a 58 car/suv convoy? Or John Kerry using his private plane to go to Iceland to get his "climate FAKE award..."








edit on 10-11-2021 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
"Climate change" is just an excuse for them , nothing more. If it wouldn't be that one , it would be another , just as long as they can use it to control/tax us further. And by making us dependent on OPEC we are weaker, that's the idea behind agenda21/great reset ?



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 02:45 AM
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Apparently climate change is about racism now!!



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 03:06 AM
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they can say anything and their followers will eat it up.

It is just an excuse to destroy the middle class, weaken the US and prime us for an attack.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Government controls the people using fear; MSM and Follywood help distribute fear.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: WUNK22

Haven't you heard? Trees and bridges are racist now too... According to criminal VP Harris, democrat leaders, and the mainstream media...



edit on 10-11-2021 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 05:59 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The plan is to stop using foreign oils and to replace it with domestic wind, solar and hydro, and ultimately domestic fusion.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 06:06 AM
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By making oil more expensive. If oil is more expensive people will use less of it.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

You


with domestic wind,


Which usual produces the most power off peak hours.



solar


Doesn’t work at night. Requires large scale mining for the materials. Requires batteries so it does work at night. More large scale strip mining. By equipment that requires diesel. Batteries are not yet effective for diesel equipment like construction, mining, farming, trucking, and railroads.



hydro


If that includes damming rivers that further destroys the habitat of existing animals.

Fusion?

Still waiting….

And where is my rocket backpack to get to work…




Jetpacks: why aren’t we all flying to work?

www.theguardian.com...


Can doesn’t always equal practical or effective.







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posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

You forgot fuel cells? What happen there?
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posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Sing it, man. I like the direction, but NOT the fervor -- most of the people espousing the green tech are flat idiots who cannot see that they are simply trading perceived filth of oil mining, for the deliberately hidden filth & abuse of Third World minerals mining. They're just modern day blood diamond peddlers, except it's not shiny carbon rocks, it's shiny minerals to refine.

Which, IMO, is far filthier mining overall. At least oil & the by-products (tar and the like) are a natural substance even when pumped out, ask La Brea about it seeping out of the ground on it's own for thousands of years. The same cannot be said for the needed man-made mining liquids. That slurry is something ugly, people. Eco my ass.
edit on 11/10/2021 by Nyiah because: Just a long-running beef between me and tags....



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 06:57 AM
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How Does Being Dependent on Foreign Oil Help Climate Change?


To specifically answer the question of this thread, it doesn’t, it’s all about capitalism.

The US and Canada does have enough energy resources to be independent. The reason we Import is profits. Refiners will make more profit using imported oil and gas than domestically produced due to production costs. Cost to produce per barrel of oil in the Middle East is a fraction of the cost in North America. As a knock on effect, I guess one could argue that localized pollution is reduced when you have less upstream production.

So, the US does have the option to be energy independent, it is just not as profitable to do so right now and they can claim some kind of climate focused PR.
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posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 07:12 AM
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As long as the US isn't producing those darn carbon emissions, then the world is okay. See, it doesn't count of China, Indiana, etc pollute. We'll just buy from them and have them transport all the goods here on enormous boats using dirty oil and then none of the pollution counts!
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posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 07:15 AM
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"Climate change" is just a pretext; it is just their cover story.

It's kind of like other pretexts used in the past to enact unpopular changes.

Think of say,

* The War on Terror
* The War on Drugs
* The Cold War
* The Red Scare

Notice a pattern? All ominous words with martial undertones.

It's possible tPTB wizened up and chose their bogeyman (climate change) more carefully and strategically this time.

There are some positive things that come out of the Green Movement, but what I notice more than anything are subtle attempts to control the way people live, WHERE they live, their recreation habits, WHAT car they should drive, WHETHER OR NOT they should be "allowed" to drive private cars (!?!?), even how much meat they eat.

I think the Green Movement has a thin veneer on the surface of genuine believers that think they are helping the planet, and have pure (if sometimes misguided) intentions.

Below that veneer are the real devious and sinister ones, the type that exploit ideological and geopolitical movements, and hijack them to steer events to their liking.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 07:24 AM
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Not to the consumer, or haven’t you noticed?


originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


How Does Being Dependent on Foreign Oil Help Climate Change?


To specifically answer the question of this thread, it doesn’t, it’s all about capitalism.

The US and Canada does have enough energy resources to be independent. The reason we Import is profits. Refiners will make more profit using imported oil and gas than domestically produced due to production costs. Cost to produce per barrel of oil in the Middle East is a fraction of the cost in North America. As a knock on effect, I guess one could argue that localized pollution is reduced when you have less upstream production.

So, the US does have the option to be energy independent, it is just not as profitable to do so right now and they can claim some kind of climate focused PR.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Skepticape
Not to the consumer, or haven’t you noticed?


originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


How Does Being Dependent on Foreign Oil Help Climate Change?


To specifically answer the question of this thread, it doesn’t, it’s all about capitalism.

The US and Canada does have enough energy resources to be independent. The reason we Import is profits. Refiners will make more profit using imported oil and gas than domestically produced due to production costs. Cost to produce per barrel of oil in the Middle East is a fraction of the cost in North America. As a knock on effect, I guess one could argue that localized pollution is reduced when you have less upstream production.

So, the US does have the option to be energy independent, it is just not as profitable to do so right now and they can claim some kind of climate focused PR.


Yes that is obvious. Oil is still subject to supply and demand, using domestically produced crude will still minimize profits. Prices at the gas pump are increased relatively, and OPEC can be blamed for it.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I was mainly thinking of power stations, not toy trucks.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: neutronflux

I was mainly thinking of power stations, not toy trucks.


“ diesel equipment like construction, mining, farming, trucking, and railroads” are not “toy trucks” they are one of the life lines of the economy. Any shift to more expensive and less efficient equipment such as needed to mine the needed material for solar panels and batteries will add to the cost. From mining to shipping. Same for food production.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

And…..

If all the listed equipment is shifted to battery power. That’s going to be a huge cost to run infrastructure to remote locations. Stressing an already taxed electrical grid. Or cutting down more rain forests for example for solar panel farms. Or take up farm land.



posted on Nov, 10 2021 @ 08:26 AM
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Dependence causes higher prices: www.foxbusiness.com... , which reduces demand.

Presto!

Planet saved.




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