Do Transgender Women Have a ‘Right to Gestate’?

The next right and privilege granted to the transgender community will be a Uterus and Vagina for the transgender female.

Transgender rights to be able to gestate - with necessary surgery of course

Based on what I see as a benchmark for intelligence and common sense in modern society today, I consider myself to be above average.

Trust me, I realize that isn't really saying a whole lot because....Electrolytes are good for you and all. lol

This article blows my mind in ways that surprised me honestly. Especially the way things have been going in the world, one would think nothing would be mind blowing at this point right?

Yet, here am composing a potentially controversial thread with zero craps to give because its just becoming too much!

It's just too damn much for me at this point and I'm not going to apologize for thinking, feeling and believing the way I do.

According to a Williams Institute study from 2016, approximately 0.6% of the US population (1.3 million) identified as transgender.

Interestingly enough though, in 2017 statistics reported by GLAAD indicated the percentage at 0.3%.

www.pinknews.co.uk...
My point in sharing the statistics is to simply point out the small portion of our society that seems wield enormous power and influence to get their way and make their feelings feel better.

That's the only way I can describe what is going unless I point out the most obvious truth which is,

ITS AN AGENDA! But, that would just make me Phobe of some sort or an Ist of another sort. Transphobic, Transracist....I'll still be labelled as a Phobist I suppose.

My first thought after reading the article was this. Even If you transplant a Uterus into a male meat suit and you slice and dice a vagina, that still does not make them a woman.

It still will not make them a naturally born WOMAN

They can carry a child I suppose if the Uterus transplant works?
Vaginal delivery seems unlikely but perhaps possible...I have no idea honestly. C Section seems more likely and safer I would think overall but again, I don't really know

They still will not possess OVARIES though...Or fallopian tubes. Meaning they will not be able to produce eggs, which ties into the entire process a woman goes through monthly with the menstrual cycle.

There are other issues I have with all this from a factual science based perspective but, I'll move on to my next couple points.

I have a transgender friend and I love her dearly, It took lots of patience, many many talks and heated debates over many years for me to break through the mind programming to finally get her to see the issues women have with what is going on in the transgender community and the effect it is having on naturally born woman.

When it finally sunk in, when the light bulb moment struck....there was a sense of shame and embarrassment that hit so hard!

I think the moment it truly sunk in as an actually truth and reality of what its like being a woman was while we were out together on a fun adventure day having the best time ever and

Aunt Flo showed up unexpected and definetly not welcome and the entire day was ruined because I had to go home to shower and change. Not to mention the shame and embarrassment women feel when exposed that way. Transgender Females will never endure that humiliation, embarrassment or anxiety. Ever!

Which brings me to the next mind blowing aspect of the article.

If they can transplant a Uterus into a male meat suit, its only a matter of time before they figure out a way to do the same with ovaries and fallopian tubes.

And at that point...

What is the point?

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

You are thinking only of the soft tissues. The male pelvis has no room for birthing. That would take a lot of bone work to fix. I don’t see the point if they all have to be c section births.

Just trying to cover all the practical problems with this.

Hedonistic self-indulgence by .3 percent of the population. That's the point.

Why does this even constitute being newsworthy? It's like showing national news to someone in Florida about a bear attack in Alaska. The attack only applies to a small percentage of all U.S. citizens in the U.S., most of whom will never see a bear in their lives. Shock porn is all this is.

If we want to boil this down to economics, it matters even less sense. The amount of money that will not be poured into performing this procedure will not come close to the money spent researching and making the procedure possible. Unless the procedure costs 1 million dollars or so, doctors would be operating at a loss and that isn't going to happen.

Want to get more personal with it since it's such an important "human interest" story? What about the child born? There is no talk at all about that being an important aspect of this, because to the transgenders it's not about the child. It's about them and feeling "emotionally stable" because they can have a few body parts that were exclusively female in function. Granted, some women are like that already, zero empathy, but if a transgender person wants to feel wholly and completely like the female they feel they are then they will need the natural nurturing instincts that is exclusively female.

That instinct that tells a woman the child is the most important person in their life.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

So funny that you posted Monty because that exact clip was a bridging moment with my friend. We both were able laugh at the silliness of it to find common ground. It was sort of a defining moment I guess you could say in our friendship lol.

a reply to: beyondknowledge

I didn't realistically think a vaginal delivery would be possible, I was being delicate I suppose. I think the article mentioned that birthing act would likely be cessarian.

A cervix is kind of important in that aspect so, I suppose science will need to research transplanting one of those in along with the uterus .

Could help in the architecture of the transplanted ovaries and fallopian tubes

Paid for by tax dollars I am sure.

originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric

The next right and privilege granted to the transgender community will be a Uterus and Vagina for the transgender female.

Transgender rights to be able to gestate - with necessary surgery of course

Based on what I see as a benchmark for intelligence and common sense in modern society today, I consider myself to be above average.

Trust me, I realize that isn't really saying a whole lot because....Electrolytes are good for you and all. lol

This article blows my mind in ways that surprised me honestly. Especially the way things have been going in the world, one would think nothing would be mind blowing at this point right?

Yet, here am composing a potentially controversial thread with zero craps to give because its just becoming too much!

It's just too damn much for me at this point and I'm not going to apologize for thinking, feeling and believing the way I do.

According to a Williams Institute study from 2016, approximately 0.6% of the US population (1.3 million) identified as transgender.

Interestingly enough though, in 2017 statistics reported by GLAAD indicated the percentage at 0.3%.

www.pinknews.co.uk...
My point in sharing the statistics is to simply point out the small portion of our society that seems wield enormous power and influence to get their way and make their feelings feel better.

That's the only way I can describe what is going unless I point out the most obvious truth which is,

ITS AN AGENDA! But, that would just make me Phobe of some sort or an Ist of another sort. Transphobic, Transracist....I'll still be labelled as a Phobist I suppose.

My first thought after reading the article was this. Even If you transplant a Uterus into a male meat suit and you slice and dice a vagina, that still does not make them a woman.

It still will not make them a naturally born WOMAN

They can carry a child I suppose if the Uterus transplant works?
Vaginal delivery seems unlikely but perhaps possible...I have no idea honestly. C Section seems more likely and safer I would think overall but again, I don't really know

They still will not possess OVARIES though...Or fallopian tubes. Meaning they will not be able to produce eggs, which ties into the entire process a woman goes through monthly with the menstrual cycle.

There are other issues I have with all this from a factual science based perspective but, I'll move on to my next couple points.

I have a transgender friend and I love her dearly, It took lots of patience, many many talks and heated debates over many years for me to break through the mind programming to finally get her to see the issues women have with what is going on in the transgender community and the effect it is having on naturally born woman.

When it finally sunk in, when the light bulb moment struck....there was a sense of shame and embarrassment that hit so hard!

I think the moment it truly sunk in as an actually truth and reality of what its like being a woman was while we were out together on a fun adventure day having the best time ever and

Aunt Flo showed up unexpected and definetly not welcome and the entire day was ruined because I had to go home to shower and change. Not to mention the shame and embarrassment women feel when exposed that way. Transgender Females will never endure that humiliation, embarrassment or anxiety. Ever!

Which brings me to the next mind blowing aspect of the article.

If they can transplant a Uterus into a male meat suit, its only a matter of time before they figure out a way to do the same with ovaries and fallopian tubes.

And at that point...

What is the point?

There are women's jeans and there are a women's genes. A man reconstructed may fit the former, but can never be equal to the latter.

Like all "woke" BS, this transgender push it seems is meant to displace and devalue the natural order of things.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: Taupin Desciple

What exactly are you trying to say because its not very clear.

I think I get the general direction you are going in but, still not entirely sure.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
You are thinking only of the soft tissues. The male pelvis has no room for birthing. That would take a lot of bone work to fix. I don’t see the point if they all have to be c section births.

Just trying to cover all the practical problems with this.

Not to mention the complex mixture of hormones that change throughout a pregnancy, without which a body cannot sustain the pregnancy. It is very complex, and the mixture of hormones must adjust to each stage of pregnancy. I just don't think medicine is there yet. This will be a costly experiment and your own insurance premiums could be effected with these failed attempts.

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

At this point I really don't care if I'm labeled an istaphobe, I'm getting very tired of this trans agenda. Over the past few years I went from being a supporter of the alphabet people to now I'm completely sick and tired of hearing about it. It's no longer about equality, if it ever was, it's all about forcing people to make them feel as special as they believe themselves to be.

I've been on a dating app that shows trans people from time to time and I hate to say it, but, it does disgust me. These are mentally ill people who we're being forced to accept their illness. It's not just them, either, look at how their "defenders" act:



Can't even crack a joke without people turning whack. lol

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

"Aunt Flo showed up unexpected and definetly not welcome and the entire day was ruined because I had to go home to shower and change. Not to mention the shame and embarrassment women feel when exposed that way. Transgender Females will never endure that humiliation, embarrassment or anxiety. Ever!"
-MagesticEsoteric

Very odd thing to use to shame a transgender female. Being transgender has to face much worse in society. Your thread shows just that.

It isn't as simple as literally transplanting a vagina and uterus to a male body... right?

Although theoretically this would be possible, it would be a huge surgical and endocrinologic undertaking and involve not just the creation of a vagina but also surgical reconstruction of the whole pelvis by someone skilled in transgender surgery. After this procedure and the grafting of a donor uterus, a complex hormone regimen would be required to support a pregnancy prior to and after embryo transfer (although this could be done, as we provide similar hormone regimens to menopausal women to support a pregnancy). The interesting thing is that these embryos would be created using the patient’s sperm (rather than eggs as in our protocol) and a partner or donor’s eggs. This sperm would have had to be frozen prior to their transgender surgery, which people are doing more routinely now... however, our protocol is limited at this time to women without a functioning uterus.

www.nytimes.com...

I have been laughing all day long

The Liberals have found something they are good at. Keeping us entertained

"It gestates insides a living human host ... now these are your words ... and has concentrated acid for blood ..."

Maybe we just need to discover xenomorphs already and then everyone can experience the miracle of pregnancy and birth.

originally posted by: Necrobile
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

At this point I really don't care if I'm labeled an istaphobe, I'm getting very tired of this trans agenda. Over the past few years I went from being a supporter of the alphabet people to now I'm completely sick and tired of hearing about it. It's no longer about equality, if it ever was, it's all about forcing people to make them feel as special as they believe themselves to be.

I've been on a dating app that shows trans people from time to time and I hate to say it, but, it does disgust me. These are mentally ill people who we're being forced to accept their illness. It's not just them, either, look at how their "defenders" act:

Can't even crack a joke without people turning whack. lol

I’m right there with you!

I don’t even hold my opinions back anymore around my alphabet friends... the ones that still have working brain cells to think with reason and common sense at least.

I get a feeling that most still feel obligated to hold some sort of line and if they let loose of the line even just a little bit, they are completely cut off.

I understand how hard that can be when it’s such a small percentage of society that you rely on for acceptance and understanding too! It’s a difficult situation to not want to be ostracized from a group you identify with but also, not agree with everything they stand for.
Then, knowing that if u step out of line, your just done.

That was actually another bridging moment I had with my friend....

I asked her how she could considering them “friends” if she was shunned for accepting her own terms and not the blanket terms of the extra alphabet group

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

"Aunt Flo showed up unexpected and definetly not welcome and the entire day was ruined because I had to go home to shower and change. Not to mention the shame and embarrassment women feel when exposed that way. Transgender Females will never endure that humiliation, embarrassment or anxiety. Ever!"
-MagesticEsoteric

Very odd thing to use to shame a transgender female. Being transgender has to face much worse in society. Your thread shows just that.

How so?
How did I shame a transgender
Do transgender females ever worry about bleeding through their clothes in public? Do they have to walk through crowds with blood on their clothing and be laughed at and mocked by not only just men but, women also?

Have you personally ever started your period unexpectedly while in a public setting? Have you personally experienced the anxiety that takes over every thought from the moment you realize it’s happening?

It’s a complete nightmare for real women because society shames us for something that is natural! And now men want to be women!!! Without knowing what it’s really like to be a woman and the wannabes are telling US to step aside and let the wannabes be the women!!!

It’s insanity on EVERY level!

so if they change their mind during gestation will it be acceptable for them to abort the pregnancy?

The cervix is part of the uterus.

But....interesting. If a transplant works on men, many women might be interested in have the procedure as well. Go ahead. Practice on the men til it's perfected. But 'gestating' a baby. Ain't gonna happen. It's too complex. It's not like hatching an egg in an incubator.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

"Aunt Flo showed up unexpected and definetly not welcome and the entire day was ruined because I had to go home to shower and change. Not to mention the shame and embarrassment women feel when exposed that way. Transgender Females will never endure that humiliation, embarrassment or anxiety. Ever!"
-MagesticEsoteric

Very odd thing to use to shame a transgender female. Being transgender has to face much worse in society. Your thread shows just that.

How so?
How did I shame a transgender
Do transgender females ever worry about bleeding through their clothes in public? Do they have to walk through crowds with blood on their clothing and be laughed at and mocked by not only just men but, women also?

Have you personally ever started your period unexpectedly while in a public setting? Have you personally experienced the anxiety that takes over every thought from the moment you realize it’s happening?

It’s a complete nightmare for real women because society shames us for something that is natural! And now men want to be women!!! Without knowing what it’s really like to be a woman and the wannabes are telling US to step aside and let the wannabes be the women!!!

It’s insanity on EVERY level!
edit on 8-11-2021 by MagesticEsoteric