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originally posted by: A51Watcher
Full video at the following link
originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
This is a screen shot of your 1952 photo of S-4 from the video compared to mine from Google Earth 2021:
Below I've circled the area in question. The small features within the yellow circles in 1952 match exactly with 2021. The angle once again isn't perfect, but seems to point to no excavation in its 70 year history:
I could be wrong again in your point with your photos.
Yes, there is an S-4 there but as you discovered it's not where Lazar says it is. It's also not what Lazar says it is, it has foreign radars installed, so they fly new planes around S-4 to check their radar signatures on foreign radar systems.
originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Sublimecraft
Couldn't get those coordinates to work. I found this area that's close and actually marked S-4
Edit: ok so the arrow is now pointing to where the video claims the location is...
I don't communicate with Knapp via e-mail. Maybe you can ask him to confirm or deny the claim that area-51 security guard Fred Dunham checked all the logs of people entering area 51 when Lazar claimed to be working there, and Lazar's name wasn't on any of the logs, which proves Lazar never was in the secure area of area 51 (though Eric Davis says he worked as a radiation health tech in an unclassified off-site support facility requiring no security clearance, so obviously Fred Dunham's checks would only apply to the secure area 51 site, not that unsecured, unclassified offsite support facility.)
originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: Bigburgh
Too late, I sent it over to Knapperz personal email.
He should actually be checking his email anytime now, its after 8 am over there.
He usually gets back to me fairly quickly.
Fred worked at Area 51 during the time Bob said he was flying there to then take a bus to a supposed S4 at Papoose. Fred checked the Area 51 security lists(current and historical) and Bob was not on them. Based on that and because there was no base at Papoose, Fred had told George that Bob's story was not true
The interview with Fred Dunham was just posted this year, in July, so the evidence that Lazar lied about a lot got another nail in the coffin, but that link to the interview also has other links to a lot more previous nails in the coffin of Lazar's partially false stories.
originally posted by: BurnsXL
It's 2021 and we all have the benefit of the full internet and its resources at our disposal. How does anyone still believe Bob Lazar at this point? There's no alien bunker in the side of a mountain, there's no anti-gravity craft powered by "stable Element 115," there's no tooth fairy, and there's no Santa Claus.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
originally posted by: Shadowhawk
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Fred Dunham told me that he checked the Master Entry Authority List after Lazar went public with his claims. Dunham said he was unable to find Lazar's name anywhere. He also told me that there was no facility at Papoose Lake, but that there were radar and electronic systems on the tops of some of the nearby hills. The site on Google Earth that is labeled "S-4 Research Facility" looks to me like a couple of concrete pads for mobile radar equipment.
Have you ever tried talking to Fred Dunham, who was actually there, to assess the claims about S4? I think he would confirm there is an S-4, but it's probably the one BigBurgh found, not at the location you are looking at.
originally posted by: A51Watcher
An exhaustive search of satellite photos through various years has revealed the location of the S4 facility during construction.