Italian Institute Of Health Covid Death Adjustment.

The Italian Higher Institute of Health had adjusted downwards its estimate of the number of people who’ve died from Covid, as opposed to with Covid, from over 130,000 to under 4,000.
According to its latest report on Covid mortality, the Institute says COVID-19 has killed fewer people than the average bout of seasonal flu. According to the statistical sample of medical records collected by the Institute, only 2.9% of the deaths registered since the end of February 2020 have been due to COVID-19. So, of the 130,468 deaths registered by official statistics dating back to the beginning of the pandemic, only 3,783 are due to the virus alone.

All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two. According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.
It's the same in the UK and the US, intentionally over inflated death rate figures to trick people into receiving the poison jab.
If in the UK you are tested positive for covid and then die in a car crash....you died of covid which goes on your death certificate.
It's evil guys......
This is actual guidance given by the NHS when the plandemic firs started.


"Medical practitioners are required to certify causes of death “to the best of their knowledge and belief”. Without diagnostic proof, if appropriate and to avoid delay, medical practitioners can circle ‘2’ in the MCCD (“information from post-mortem may be available later”) or tick Box B on the reverse of the MCCD for ante-mortem investigations. For example, if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement."
WOW!

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Doesn't matter how many times its claimed, having comorbidities doesn't mean they didn't die from covid.

factcheck.afp.com...

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Doesn't matter how many times its claimed, having comorbidities doesn't mean they didn't die from covid.

factcheck.afp.com...

Thanks for the link for the double jabbed.

a reply to: Smigg


I can actually remember the constant daily images of crowded Italian COVID wards and spiraling death tolls that all came out for a month or so when the epidemic was at its fastest spread.

Funny how all those comorbidities waited to gang-up with COVID-19, and start overfilling hospital wards all at the same time, though?

a reply to: chr0naut

I remember similar scenes and rhetoric in the UK press.

Not what i seen when i went to A+E, i was the only person there and the wards were empty.

In fact i have a friend who works at Hairmyres Hospital in Scotland, according to him the critical care wards had the most available beds they've had in years however the morgues were full due to people dying at home, afraid to seek hospital care. Not to mention the huge increase in drug related deaths and suicides.

Overall deaths are higher than the 5 year average week on week in the UK since the vaccination program began, even comparative to the height of the pandemic when we had no vaccinations.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Smigg


I can actually remember the constant daily images of crowded Italian COVID wards and spiraling death tolls that all came out for a month or so when the epidemic was at its fastest spread.

Funny how all those comorbidities waited to gang-up with COVID-19, and start overfilling hospital wards all at the same time, though?

You can remember all the propaganda too?
All the same shots used by multiple news networks then claiming that they were different areas? Yep.

I remember that hysteria too.
You bought it.

I don't trust anything the MSM shows.

a reply to: Smigg

Your source is trying to say having high blood pressure means covid didn't kill them. That's bonkers.

a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

a reply to: Smigg

The statistics on the website of the Italian Civil Protection Department is hardly MSM , they show it's a false claim.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Smigg


I can actually remember the constant daily images of crowded Italian COVID wards and spiraling death tolls that all came out for a month or so when the epidemic was at its fastest spread.

Funny how all those comorbidities waited to gang-up with COVID-19, and start overfilling hospital wards all at the same time, though?

Comorbidity doesn't mean a death sentence. But mix it with something that exasperates it?

Yeah funny hey.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

The statistics on the website of the Italian Civil Protection Department is hardly MSM , they show it's a false claim.

Medical Professionals: We don't know the long term effects of vaping. We must ban it.
Also Medical Professionals: We know the newly implemented and largely untested vaccine works, and urge everyone to get jabbed.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

The statistics on the website of the Italian Civil Protection Department is hardly MSM , they show it's a false claim.

I'm not sure if you have noticed but the MSM and governments are in step with this façade, all in the same boat churning out false narratives and statistics....no ?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: chr0naut

Overall deaths are higher than the 5 year average week on week in the UK since the vaccination program began, even comparative to the height of the pandemic when we had no vaccinations.

Not true

www.ons.gov.uk... ober2021

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

a reply to: Smigg

I'm not sure if you have noticed but the MSM and governments are in step with this façade, all in the same boat churning out false narrative and statistics....no ?

What I've noticed is there are many on ATS who want to push a false narrative regardless of the facts.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

Does not being double jabbed make you really gullible?