Covid or not: an alarming signal?

I am vaccinated, but I regret it. Too late ... I know.
Could it be that we are going in the wrong direction? Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?
Heart problems and other serious illnesses overwhelm some hospitals (or is this an isolated case)? Anyway ... take care.

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I strongly suspect the vax is more of a health Trojan Horse than anything. Intent might have been good, but as I've said countless times already on here, it seriously reeks like I Am Legend stuff -- impact shortsightedness and rushed work makes for increasingly dicey results. And those for it keep hawing like a donkey every time it's brought up and pointed out.

a reply to: Nyiah
I Am Legend or The Kingsman: The Secret Service?

a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Nyiah
I Am Legend or The Kingsman: The Secret Service?

At this rate, does a distinction even matter? Lol, the shots have a host of health issue side effects, normal general maintenance healthcare was back burnered because Covid and Reasons. Actually, I'd say it was more eschewed by the providers themselves for us to do so, since it was practically beat into heads to not bother doctors' offices and hospitals unless it was super-duper urgent. Because Covid.

Except most ERs...didn't have particularly heavy traffic. BTDT, was in & out of them with my husband earlier this year (supposedly in the middle of a case boom) ER was all crickets for one trip, all spring gardening injuries for the next, etc. Nobody in there was there for Covid. Broken bones a plenty, yep, but Covid, no.

NOW they're feeling the fallout of overworking and underpaying nursing staff saying "# you, I quit.". Oops, probably shouldn't have fanned flames and backdrafted the industry so bad! Once you piss on the nurses, the doctors are just standing there caught with their pants down like deer in headlights. let's see how this plays out when the healthcare equivalent of legit critical truckers refuse to work again. In this seemingly supply chain pretzel equivalent here, the nurses are the drivers, their knowledge is the cargo in the trailer. And the lack of both is a real pickle that is resulting in a hell of a lot of egg on faces.


Trojan. Horse.

Absolutely was and still is one on multiple fronts.

a reply to: gortex

The establishment has a solution for that.

Alienate the staff and reduce their numbers with a mandate.

That should take care of those pesky useless eaters.

What irks me the most out of this is that nobody has stood up and said: " well why arent we funding our health systems properly?

a reply to: gortex

No no no gortex I don't think you understand. I read this
today in the comments section on you tube of all places.

Russell there is some of your honest journalism needed in how many school kids are just dropping down dead : 2 from the same school in 1 week this week and so many more.

source

People everywhere are saying this I hear it in truck stops bars casinos.

People young boys are dying after being vaccinated. Others are getting
very ill and may not survive. You wouldn't be hearing all of this if the
vaccine was a good thing.

a reply to: Randyvine2

No no no gortex I don't think you understand.

I understand that the build up of cases postponed due to the pandemic is what the source article is reporting not problems caused by the vaccine , we have the same situation over here with backlogs and the problem caused.

Of all the people I know both through work and in my personal life who have taken the vaccine none have so far suffered any issues with the vaccine other than the initial unwell feeling following the shot.

a reply to: Nyiah
Have you watched this yet?

Thank god for Russell.....at least he will make us laugh while he is telling us about robot nurses.

a reply to: gortex

I had seen this one coming. Delayed examinations ... that's what they say. A good excuse and promoted well in advance. The vaccine shouldn't be to blame. And it won't be the culprit either. Not officially anyway. But I have my doubts. There doesn't seem to be anyone in my circle of acquaintances (and beyond that) whose medical examination has been delayed. On the contrary, I have the impression that the fear of covid has led to more and more healthy people going to the hospital. And to date no one has been turned away. I mean yes they were send away because a&fter examination they were declared perfectly healthy. So one could say that too many healthy people are going to the hospital because fear is contagious. But in this hospital that is clearly not the case. There is talk of a great increase in very sick people.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

that sounds like the opportune time to enact a vaccine mandate and fire all the front line health care workers who already have naturall immunity, and don't want the shot. That should help alleviate those long lines. Yes, that line of thinking is going to save us all.

a reply to: zandra

I had seen this one coming. Delayed examinations ... that's what they say. A good excuse and promoted well in advance.

Except it is what is happening , both in terms of the source article and real world cases , my sister had a gallbladder issue that needed treating over a year ago but surgery was put off and she was treated with antibiotics instead , a couple of months ago it got to the stage where she was facing serious problems so they rushed her in and a 2 hour operation took 4.5 hours due to complications and infections caused by the delay ,thankfully she is now well.

a reply to: network dude

that sounds like the opportune time to enact a vaccine mandate and fire all the front line health care workers who already have naturall immunity, and don't want the shot.

Vaccine mandates are a stupid idea I agree , they just risk causing more problems.
Everybody has the right to choose and forced vaccination is an infringement on a persons personal rights , daily testing for front line staff is the only reasonable way forward especially as the vaccine doesn't stop you contracting or spreading the virus..

a reply to: gortex

I would like to add that my best friend had heart problems (3 stents), another friend had facial paralysis (megadose cortisone), my sister has an infection in her leg (still not over after 3 weeks). In addition, a number of elderly people died unexpectedly in my area. But, of course, they had underlying health problems. I don't blame the vaccine, but I have my doubts. Hence my regret that I and my whole family have been vaccinated. But we had the choice to decline, so so be it.

originally posted by: homerJ
What irks me the most out of this is that nobody has stood up and said: " well why arent we funding our health systems properly?

The better question should be, "Why are we still paying CNAs and LPNs poverty wages?" RNs aren't the only nursing staff out there, but they're pretty much the only ones remaining anymore. Nobody wants to check vitals, man bedpans, get smacked around, for less than a burger flipper gets anymore. $15 p/h at Taco Bell, I think the CNA average nationally is about $13 still.


THAT is where something is wrong, and where the staff hemorrhages started -- when your lower rung medical staff is paid less than fast food workers are. Now which job do you think I'M going to chose, if given a choice? That's right, Imma make cheap tacos and burritos all day instead of doing more, for even less.

a reply to: gortex
Maybe a small dent in my thinking. (Thank you for that.)
Why? Because I cannot compare the Belgian healthcare system with the American one. Big media here is also talking (for a long time) about delayed care due to corona. But believe me, none of that is true.
If you go to the doctor here (today) with a headache that didn't went away on its own after three days, there's a good chance you'll end up under the scanner right away. And I can tell you: Belgium is as red as can be on the corona chart.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

Sure, sure.
Cyclist athlete, 29 years of age with no history of psychosis,
has protracted 'panic attack' right after vax,
causing heart rate to soar, interminably.
In waves. Psychosomatic pericarditis, myocarditis, reaggravation of past injuries.

Maybe watch this before it's yanked?
Dr. John Campbell
www.youtube.com...

Mercola link (he receives threats, therefore he removes everything after a few days).

articles.mercola.com... 87c45c6dfd965495bddc424&sd=20111202&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20211105_HL2&mid=DM1035537&rid=1313397310&fbclid=IwAR 3m4o5stP0fiAd502dH-6qvoL0xRpKO4jl_MTgzu0zDEjHey4CRxqEpg0I

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a reply to: zandra

I'm in the UK , our heath service has been hit hard by the pandemic and actually getting to see a doctor here as a task in itself , moral within the NHS is pretty low right now.

a reply to: gortex
A new dent in my thinking ... ok I'll think it over again.
Something else: (although the same)
I'm getting more and more the feeling that we're used. Hear what a Bayer CEO says at the World Health Summit. I hope you can open the link. He says something like: A few years ago 95 percent of people would have refused this gene or cell therapy. Thanks to corona, science has been able to push through this big step. (Sigh)
PS: The sigh is mine.
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