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originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: Lux96
If our consciousness shapes reality, then why are any two beings able to see the same thing the same way that neather has seen before and neather has any idea of its existence? Every being’s reality would be so different that we could not interact with each other at all if conciousness controls it. It would be as if magic were real. Imagin it and it is so but only for you and no one else. That is unless you are imagining that I am typing this to you. Am I real?
I can prove that others exist by dropping a brick on their foot. If they did not exist or did not think they existed, they would not try to move their foot. I can’t prove I exist that way because I expect the brick to fall and hurt if it hits my foot, therefore I expect the results of my own test and change the outcome by this expectation. This is why you can’t tickle yourself.
“The pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Parmenides taught that the only things that are real are things which never change ... and the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Heraclitus taught that everything changes. If you superimpose their two views, you get this result: Nothing is real.”
— Philip K. Dick
“[T]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts.”
― Werner Heisenberg
Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.
-- Niels Bohr
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
-- Albert Einstein
What if reality is just a #load of different waves and frequencies and our body and mind solidify those waves in our perception, for our own personal experience of that spectrum of frequencies that we can observe.
Meaning, our reality that consists of 'matter' isn't actually solid, and we're just vessels, made of waves themselves, cruizing through these frequencies but our consciousness materializes these frequencies for us, giving us the perception it is actually solid.
we seem to perceive the outside world in order to change reality itself.
This does not mean that the objective reality changes, but what if objective reality is just frequencies which our mind shapes into being for us.
What if there's only waves going through waves, a certain band of waves is actually 'you', your consciousness, and it interferes with other waves giving the impression that this world is 'real' and 'solid', which is just an illusion
It would seem logical that every single possible version of 'reality' is already present amongst these waves and that the potential for changing reality is effectively stored within our consciousness, depending on how our collective, global consciousness thinks to perceive it.
This would mean that there are certain things that one person can see, but the other can't, depending on the dispositioning of the mind towards these waves. But both are actually right and effectively experience their respective reality.
We shape the reality with our perception and if we wish to see more love in the world then we should busy ourselves with projecting love into the world. To see love where there is no love, to light up the darkness, even if reality does not effectively change, then our perception will make us feel as if it somehow did, brightening our days, because it makes us feel better.
And by projecting this conscious energy and interfering with the waves of reality it slowly radiates into your own reality, because you wish to see it. Even if there wasn't anything changing, just a real desire to see these changes makes you more aware of these things around you, and automatically you will start to notice it more around you.
But in time it will affect the outer world too, because you will start to vibrate differently, because you believe that you can see this love in the world and by doing so you emanate it from yourself outward and the world reflects it back to you.
originally posted by: Lux96
a reply to: Serdgiam
My main point of view was just that the whole 'material world' which we can perceive, isn't material at all. And our body and mind is just a vessel which in itself also isn't material, but it is only because our consciousness shapes it into being so we can perceive this reality that, for us personally, it appears as materialistic.
It's just some 'far-fetched' idea. And the only thing I really got going for me is that we can never be completely sure of the absolute truth concerning our reality, that and maybe quantum mechanics where everything starts getting particularly weird.
Another 'far-fetched' idea would be that, if we would evolve for millions of years, who knows what kind of 'state' our body/mind will be in. Maybe we can then 'travel' to higher 'dimensions' or something like that, which are just other layers of reality which we were initially not able to perceive.
I just thought it was an interesting thought to distance yourself from the basic material reality perception we have and try see it as a bunch of different energies that are constantly influencing each other and creating certain states of being relative to our consciousness.
For example, spirits or entities, non-physical. They supposedly exist.. But where are they located, and why can't we see them.. Assuming they can see us, their consciousness is able to perceive their own part of reality as well as ours or something like that..
Well, I'm really no intellectual or anything... I just like to think about these things, either way, in the end we'll never have a real answer because we just don't actually know 100% sure, ever.