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The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

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posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: vkey08
a reply to: tanstaafl

Unfortunately, no.. sorry.

The individual States united by and under the Constitution for these united States of America are ... imaginary?

Fortunately, your ignorance doesn't matter, and has no bearing on what State Legislators can choose to do, and they most certainly can, if they so choose, decertify. It would take a majority, not an easy task, but it could be done.



posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl
not an easy task, but it could be done.


It would violate federal law after:



“Tuesday after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President”


Federal law says that all states "must appoint their electors on election day". Attempting to subvert the will of the people after election day would:


deprive the state of protections in federal law that require Congress to honor the
state’s chosen electors. The Electoral Count Act (“ECA”) includes a “safe harbor” provision that treats as
“conclusive” a state’s chosen slate of electors if two criteria are satisfied: (1) the electors must be chosen under
laws enacted prior to Election Day, and (2) the selection process, including final resolution of any disputes, must
be completed at least six days prior to the meetings of the electors. 3 U.S.C. § 5



That safe harbor expiration would have been Dec 8, 2020.

So, it's mostly a fantasy that a Presidential election can be "decertified", and pushing that agenda upon the ignorant seems like a real crappy thing to do.
edit on 30-11-2021 by alphabetaone because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Kaiju666

originally posted by: Boadicea
YOU are stuck on Trump. YOU can't get beyond Trump. YOU are the one who can't think outside of your ill-informed self-righteous bubble of contempt for all things Trump.


This truth can't be stated enough. It's pathetically hilarious how many smurfs have this syndrome. In the words of Buzz, "To election reform and beyond!" ...or something like that.


Any time one of us replies to something they say, we're playing into their hands. I simply ignore them. It dilutes the thread (and disrespects the thread's owner) to conduct interpersonal communications. Communications which should be conducted via the forum's private-messaging function.


Fair enough. I do plenty of ignoring, 'tis why my posts are so low since joining + the years before of just lurking.



posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Ghostsdogood
a reply to: Kaiju666


What exactly is a 'smurf'.

Is this the latest derogatory term being thrown about by the party of inclusiveness?

'Deplorables' wasn't good enough?

'Tea Bagger' didn't get enough giggles?

Didn't like how 'Fake News' and 'Fascist' backfired?


Maybe I missed something while traveling.



Well, if you must know... It be a term I use for people with TDS. Predominantly certain peoples, I just lump them all together as smurfs. Smurfs are blue (hint hint). I'm surrounded by them. And no, I'm not red either. I claim no color. Election fraud has been committed (not the first time nor last) and needs to be taken care of and the people and powers responsible need to be...
Do the crime, do the time.



posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: tanstaafl
not an easy task, but it could be done.


It would violate federal law after:



“Tuesday after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President”


Federal law says that all states "must appoint their electors on election day". Attempting to subvert the will of the people after election day would:


deprive the state of protections in federal law that require Congress to honor the
state’s chosen electors. The Electoral Count Act (“ECA”) includes a “safe harbor” provision that treats as
“conclusive” a state’s chosen slate of electors if two criteria are satisfied: (1) the electors must be chosen under
laws enacted prior to Election Day, and (2) the selection process, including final resolution of any disputes, must
be completed at least six days prior to the meetings of the electors. 3 U.S.C. § 5



That safe harbor expiration would have been Dec 8, 2020.

So, it's mostly a fantasy that a Presidential election can be "decertified", and pushing that agenda upon the ignorant seems like a real crappy thing to do.


It's just plain silly that you call it "subverting" the will of the people. If there was fraud, then clearly the fraud would have been a subversion of the will of the people.


However, the part where it says " including final resolution of any disputes" would make decertification impossible, because an election audit certainly counts as a "dispute".




edit on 30-11-2021 by bloodymarvelous because: shorten



posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Kaiju666

originally posted by: Ghostsdogood
a reply to: Kaiju666


What exactly is a 'smurf'.

Is this the latest derogatory term being thrown about by the party of inclusiveness?

'Deplorables' wasn't good enough?

'Tea Bagger' didn't get enough giggles?

Didn't like how 'Fake News' and 'Fascist' backfired?


Maybe I missed something while traveling.



Well, if you must know... It be a term I use for people with TDS. Predominantly certain peoples, I just lump them all together as smurfs. Smurfs are blue (hint hint). I'm surrounded by them. And no, I'm not red either. I claim no color. Election fraud has been committed (not the first time nor last) and needs to be taken care of and the people and powers responsible need to be...
Do the crime, do the time.


Thanks for the explanation, I hadn't noticed that being used before.

Agree 100% on the rest.





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