Bombshell Swedish study finds covid jabs provide no lasting protection.

Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

You can make studies and statistics say anything.

You can do a study of Dr's in a very liberal area and say 99% are vaccinated, you can do a study in a very conservative area and show only 75% are.

There is NO study in the entire world that can tell a person that they will die if they don't get vaccinated, or that they won't die if they do. That is absolutely a fact.

Also, since they nobody is too keen on actually testing people, HOW the heck do they know when a persons immunity runs out?
Every single person is different, and I bet some run out a lot sooner than others, and some people may have longer lasting immunity.

originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: MDDoxs

Or.

This strengthens the INSANITY-based rationale for administration of a third booster dose.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Or maybe we should all just walk around with a perpetual needle in our arms?

Nope, OP is clearly siding with the study and demanding that we all get extra clot shots. If they didnt kill us the first and second time around, certainly the third time will do the trick.

Either that or you'll have to learn to live with AIDS.

You can make studies and statistics say anything.

The only class I ever failed was Statistics. Or should I say, I was kicked out of.

I made that very argument when the instructor tried to use statistics to prove a point. I would use his same data and prove another point. He thought I was being deliberately antagonistic. I was trying to show him that statistics were just a tool, a decoration, and not necessarily a concrete proof of certainty.

He didn't like being challenged, so he threw me out of his class.

originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

what are the numbers for the naturally immune? Or are you like Fauci and you haven't had time to look into that part yet?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

what are the numbers for the naturally immune? Or are you like Fauci and you haven't had time to look into that part yet?

Or it could be that it's completely irrelevant to how effective the vaccines are so why would he mention it in his post?

a reply to: ScepticScot

You're not allowed to use logic this is ATS.

a reply to: Smigg

They certainly do not last... But why use false statements in your thread? You claim the vaccines are not popular in Sweden? That's factually incorrect, they have one of the highest uptake rates and extremely popular at 67%.

And if you visited Sweden during the pandemic you would have seen they didn't carry on as normal. They socially distanced better than any country I've been to, other than China of course, but theirs was mandatory, Swedes are sensible and not communist.

So whilst yes, the vaccines are useless after 6 to 12 months, why wrap that up in factually incorrect statents? To push a confirmation bias?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

what are the numbers for the naturally immune? Or are you like Fauci and you haven't had time to look into that part yet?

Or it could be that it's completely irrelevant to how effective the vaccines are so why would he mention it in his post?

when in the USA (a place you are NOT) unvaccinated is just that. Natural Immunity doesn't exist. So here, it's relevant. In kilt land, I just don't know. I am not from there. But I'm glad to educate you as to why it's important here.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Smigg

Just before China unleashed Covid-19, Fauci worked with Congress to make what are now Covid-19 vaccines, legally called vaccines. If Congress had not made that change, these drugs would be called advance-treatments.

But Fauci/Congress wanted them to be called vaccines, so they wrote legislation which made the MRNA jab a vaccine. (Somebody knew Covid-19 existed, and was about to be let loose on the world.)

Yes I agree this was all planned out, it's a crime against humanity just like the 9/11 attacks and by the same group.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

Unvaccinated 32 times more likely to die of Covid

what are the numbers for the naturally immune? Or are you like Fauci and you haven't had time to look into that part yet?

Or it could be that it's completely irrelevant to how effective the vaccines are so why would he mention it in his post?

when in the USA (a place you are NOT) unvaccinated is just that. Natural Immunity doesn't exist. So here, it's relevant. In kilt land, I just don't know. I am not from there. But I'm glad to educate you as to why it's important here.

Natural imumity has nothing to do with the topic or Bastions post. Your geographical location is irrelevant.

What happened to the medical privacy act?

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I made that very argument when the instructor tried to use statistics to prove a point. I would use his same data and prove another point. He thought I was being deliberately antagonistic. I was trying to show him that statistics were just a tool, a decoration, and not necessarily a concrete proof of certainty.

Thats why they say if you can't do, you teach, or something like that.
Obviously that teacher never worked in the real world using statistics that you had to manipulate.
I had to do it all the time for almost every job.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Smigg

They certainly do not last... But why use false statements in your thread? You claim the vaccines are not popular in Sweden? That's factually incorrect, they have one of the highest uptake rates and extremely popular at 67%.

67% isn't extremely popular 90% is extremely popular and the statistics are based on the adult population, the UK is at 67% and have administered over one hundred million doses where Sweden have administered fourteen million.
What is strange though is that Sweden went for heard immunity so why are people getting the vaccine ?

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originally posted by: bastion
Strange how scientifically valid, independent, real-world studies show the complete opposite.

You mean the independent UK Government, the real world UK Government, the scientifically valid UK Government of national statistics, the same none bias Government run department that devised a way to massively inflate covid death rate figures ?

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

In any statistical aglorithm created someone decides which variables to input along with variable expression or importance applied to said variables. Someone can have great understanding of a subject and make rational assessments and be fairly accurate, but they can also be used to paint a picture far from reality.

a reply to: ScepticScot

It absolutely has to be relevant. If you don't know how many were protected pre-vaccine you can't truly determine it's effectiveness.

a reply to: rickymouse

The worst part about this is that the vaccinated are out and about and not taking nearly as much precautions since they are protected from the virus by the vaccine.

I only take the required precautions. Why not do the bare minimum? I'm not likely to get sick.

a reply to: tamusan

I think he was saying it as a slight jab, not truly for his fear's sake.

The stated purpose of the mandates was to protect others. There was a crowd of people claiming others wanted to kill their grandma or that they may be a biological terrorist for not complying. These same people who could be potential transmitters no longer take precautions because they feel safe for having taken the jab.