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Most politicians don't have enough influence to do squat really.
You are either wrong about the shot clinics requiring you to report any income information or I guess blame you state.
Hospitals only benefit if either the patient/insurance company pays or it recoups the expenses by raising its fees.
More people died from covid last year that polio ever killed in a years time. Matter of fact, if you added polos death toll with the number of kids crippled, the number wouldn't be much higher, maybe even less.
And the polio vaccine wasn't tested any more than the covid vaccine, matter of fact, there were two versions of vaccines developed the first one ended rather disastrously in the trial stage.
Still, the parents eagerly lined the kids up for the vaccine when they had the opportunity to. And, yes, I know the difference between polio, smallpox, and covid.
2% for the least affected groups, compared to 0.001% for the Chinese virus. 75% for the highest-risk groups, compared to 15% or so for the Chinese virus.
The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults. It increases to 25% to 75% with bulbar involvement.
In addition to the higher potential of fatality, those who contract poliomyelitis have a high risk of becoming paralyzed, and this paralysis can occur as much as 40 years after the virus is contracted. Compare that to the Chinese virus, which shows no long-lasting effects in those who have contracted it (yet).
After an interval of 15 to 40 years, 25% to 40% of persons who contracted paralytic poliomyelitis in childhood experience new muscle pain and exacerbation of existing weakness or develop new weakness or paralysis.
And there were no mandatory vaccinations used in this global campaign. Yet it was so successful that smallpox was literally wiped out.
Smallpox is a contagious, disfiguring and often deadly disease that has affected humans for thousands of years. Naturally occurring smallpox was wiped out worldwide by 1980 — the result of an unprecedented global immunization campaign.
There are treatments for the Chinese virus... including zinc, vitamin D3, Vitamin C, ivermectin, hydroxycholoroquine, artificial antibodies, etc.
No cure or treatment for smallpox exists.
You do know what I mean by the Christian right dont you. It is a pretty common term referring to a group within the evangelical movement.
I suggest you stop inferring that the kids aren't taking me seriously because of my religious views.
Being free to practice you religion is being able to pray while not disturbing others in the class not having a time for prayer set aside or worse led prayers in school.
Or being able to bring a bible to school to read in your own time, not have bible or any other religious text read to them. Those things are forcing your religion onto others.
Think you are reading me wrong or something. Yes let people be free to chart their own course through life, do what they believe is right for them. Ensure that they all have an equal opportunity to develope their skills and abilities. Let them find their own place in creation. Let the violinists play their violins, the flutist their flutes, let the drummers drum! Quite telling or blocking people from being what they should be because it doesn't fit in with your preconceived stereotypical notion of what you think god would want them to be! It takes all those instruments to make an orchestra play beautiful music, one isnt more or less important than the others.
The honesty has to come from both sides though! And, it is obvious that one side is being a tad bit dishonest.
You have a right to chose what to believe and what not to, but so do I. We just disagree on what is believable.
You want people to stop having abortions, make motherhood a worthy venture that deserves respect instead of having policies and attitudes that leave so many women and children living in poverty.
And, for Pete's sake accept that there are times when it is the most prudent course of action!
my version of godliness would be this little corner of creation playing the same beautiful music that is in heaven. I don't see that as being possible anytime in the near future. It would require everyone to stop trying to control others as well as surrendering much of the control over their own lives and having faith that god would adjust the world and put us in our proper place.
Don't talk to me about how much "liberty" I had I. My younget adult life unless you want me to expand on my views of god and religion.
I haven't really griped much about them up and quiting their last job and making this business venture since I feel their boss wasn't valuing their lives much. But I do have a feeling that being required to attend that meeting about covid safety that they both blew off might have had something to do with it.
I may no agree with the mandates, but at least I can see their points of view though and interrupt the ATS soundboard where everyone seems to give assurance to each other that yes, they are right and only the few idiots don't see things differently and present the opposing view.
Maybe your beliefs about the virus is right, maybe it is wrong.
I ain't gonna go screaming religious rights though because I dont believe wearing a mask is effective.
And, well this is my opinion.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: TheRedneck
Can you honestly say that your objection to vaccines is based on sincerely held spiritual beliefs? If you can honestly say yes, then you deserve a religious exemption. If the answer is no and you are just wanting to game the system well I think you are probably misusing and abusing a good thing and it will lead to some not so good outcomes.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: dawnstar
"I guess you must also feel that none of those vaccinations that kids are required to attend school should be forced either?"
No, they should not be forced. I don't think they need to be forced. If the schools want to require them, then at least the schools should pay for them. If these childhood vaccines were free and proven (and they are proven, over decades of use), I doubt many parents would oppose them.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: TheRedneck
Can you honestly say that your objection to vaccines is based on sincerely held spiritual beliefs? If you can honestly say yes, then you deserve a religious exemption. If the answer is no and you are just wanting to game the system well I think you are probably misusing and abusing a good thing and it will lead to some not so good outcomes.
I sort of agree, but not really.
I see a religious exemption as the cowards way out.
I don't need a religious exemption.
I AM EXEMPT. BECAUSE I OWN MY BODY AND I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMNED JAB. PERIOD.
Or, even better, to quote a most excellent comment from NightSkyeB4Dawn above:
"Shun me, execute me. I will not comply."
ETA: Ok, cowards way out may have been a bit harsh, but I agree one shouldn't lie about it. That said, there is plenty in the Bible you can use to back up such a belief.
There wasnt any vaccine mandates when they quit
I get my information from more than maddow and cnn. That video I mentioned that was talking about the religious right was from cbs.
There have been deaths from every vaccine, not many, but still..
And.. there ya go calling people cowards again... fearful of a silly bug.
Oh, and nothing diminishes the credibility of a group of people than having those they hold up as truth tellers...
Who would care if others weren't vaccinated? Parents with kids who are just now being allowed to get vaccinated. Elderly people who know that their age or health problem may make the vaccine less effective.
They couldn't have mandated a vaccine if the vaccines weren't open to their employees, could they?
Remember, they were rather picky as to who they wanted to give the shot to at the beginning.
you can't mandate something that isn't available!