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Here is Why Democrat Leaders Tried to Quietly Rush Through Bidens $5 Trillion Spending Package.

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posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm




No one is being forced. You may have to choose between your current occupation or your personal liberty


As I've said before, that's like saying "Give me your money or I'll shoot you." You're being forced to make a choice between two objectionable outcomes....no one should be forced to make that decision.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 05:22 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Sounds a lot like gargoyle pelosi's " You have to sign for the bill to know whats in it." with obama care. Under this regime we're heading quickly into third world status.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 06:11 AM
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It's not a spending package......It's the bending over of America......and we want even get a kiss.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

The bill also redefines the fact of biological sex to the religious belief of “gender identity”, at a federal level, meaning what happened in Loudoun Co. will be happening, hourly, across the country, in every building that accepts federal funds and, because the bill extends to healthcare, women can be charged with hate crimes for refusing mammograms or pelvic exams from Buffalo Bill.

edit on 15-10-2021 by DashVol because: Typo



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
in reply to: carewemust
"If authorities are forcing individuals to accept being injected with drugs that can kill, that's a declared war, is it not?"

No one is being forced. You may have to choose between your current occupation or your personal liberty.

Hilariously! Do you actually believe this is not being forced?



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Isn't the federal take-over of all Election Laws in the States - nullifying Voter ID laws, mandating universal mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting in all 5o states - buried somewhere in one of these two bills?

If so, that is far, far more deadly to our Republic than any of the other BS handouts could ever be.
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posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: carewemust

Sounds a lot like gargoyle pelosi's " You have to sign for the bill to know whats in it." with obama care. Under this regime we're heading quickly into third world status.


At least Pelosi and Obama were good actors in 2009/2010. They sold ObamaCare to the gullible sheep.

Yesterday, CNN said the media has not promoted this $5 Trillion package because Biden himself hasn't gone cross-country to promote it.

The network is also upset that Nancy Pelosi chastised them for not pushing Build Back Better.
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posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

You are NOT wrong. As pointed out, Bills are just general outlines. Two or 3 obscure sentences are converted into detailed rules and procedures that take up pages.

The K-street lawyers and Congressional staff lawyers take "Promote fair voting", and write it into actual legal laws and procedures that send billions of dollars to Left-Wing groups across America.

The first section of the OP describes how Dems will bake permanent election cheating ability, into our election system.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 09:50 AM
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The evil left will get this passed and they will win.

For now.

But evil never triumphs for long.
edit on 15-10-2021 by DBCowboy because: I drank all the beer



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Fatboy527
It's not a spending package......It's the bending over of America......and we want even get a kiss.


And as pointed out, the insane money expenditures are trivial compared to the massive changes in laws that affect all aspects of our lives.

The hiring of 87,000 IRS agents and giving them authority to seize whatever they need, if you owe the government over $600, is one example.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: TzarChasm




No one is being forced. You may have to choose between your current occupation or your personal liberty


As I've said before, that's like saying "Give me your money or I'll shoot you." You're being forced to make a choice between two objectionable outcomes....no one should be forced to make that decision.


You're comparing a terminated occupation to being murdered.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: carewemust

The evil left will get this passed and they will win.

For now.

But evil never triumphs for long.


Taking away handouts is almost impossible.

As horrible and expensive as ObamaCare is, not enough Congress members have the guts to take it away.

Biden's $5 Trillion box of surprises is filled with handouts, ranging from free daycare, to student loan forgiveness, to free college, to cash-for-babies.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 12:45 PM
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Let's hope those 2 Democrats Sinema and Manchin aren't faking the outrage.

If they suddenly turn "Positive" then look out, the party's over ☠️



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 02:09 PM
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posted on Oct, 16 2021 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
A decent article out of Atlanta that tries to explain in real-life terms, what's in the $3.5 Trillion portion of the $5 Trillion overall package.

One example:

Under this scenario, a mom who has a baby next year would have 12 weeks of paid maternity leave, free-to-low cost child care to go back to work, free preschool for that child, and $3,600 per year in tax credits to pay for the remaining costs of having a child.
Full Article: www.ajc.com...


Lol this sounds like something good right? What it amounts to is corporate socialism. The government/taxpayers footing the bill for something that if people really wanted it, should demand their employer provide. Not the government. Well, except for the 3,600 dollar tax credit. That is all government. As far as childcare goes? If the current system of worsening financial servitude due to inflation did not exist, society would be totally different. Both parents would not have to work just to make ends meet. We can stop dumping our kids off on strangers and paying them for the privilege of watching our children while we work to feed the system.
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posted on Oct, 16 2021 @ 05:10 PM
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Read my words, Democrats hate america and hates americans, all they want is to milk tax payer for their own twisted benefits and to pay out their benefactors before turning America in a socialist nation.

Yep, that is democrats for you, they are hopeful that the influx of illegals from other countries that hold no feeling for America and americans will be the ones to keep them in power forever and somebody is going to keep this millions fed and housed and is you the tax payer.




posted on Oct, 17 2021 @ 02:04 AM
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I would hope that it is painfully clear to any American who is still capable of critical thought that we are literally one step away from losing our country to a clearly marxist, socialist faction who has infiltrated, manipulated and manufactured a textbook coup in America.

If they get away with this, it's the end for us and our way of life, forever. All of you need to understand that and come to grips with it and fully understand what that means, for you, your children and your family.

It's not an overstatement, It is what is very clearly and painfully happening right now, every day right in front of your face. We must say, absolutely not to this insanity and return our country to law and order.

That is and I mean is the only way is, we take back control of America and it's core values. Where we are living now...... This isn't America, this is a thirld world country being assaulted every day by back door deals with crooked government and lobbyists to rob the country of all it's wealth and world power to be sold to the highest international bidder while we all get less wealth and the government who should be by the people for the people get to be millionaires and eat extravagant ice cream out of a 12k fridge.
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posted on Oct, 17 2021 @ 03:17 AM
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Your 100% on point with this, scary thing is, is how quickly it's happening. But the lefts response would be "Covid!!!", " Free money!!" (Never mind how we're going to pay for it)



posted on Nov, 1 2021 @ 04:23 PM
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Update November 1, 2021

After Democrats said they cut their free inconsequential boondoggle to $1.75 Trillion, and teed it up to be voted on, Senator Manchin's accountants reported that the true cost had ballooned back to $3.5 Trillion, using SMOKE and DECEIT.

In fact, it's suspected the $3.5 Trillion Trojan Horse was never trimmed to $1.75 Trillion. Democrats are the best, smoothest liars God ever created.

Manchin blows up Biden's legacy: www.cbsnews.com...





posted on Nov, 5 2021 @ 12:49 PM
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Update Friday November 5, 2021

Nancy Pelosi is on her knees in various offices right now, begging (and only God knows what else) Democrats to support the huge $2.8 Trillion dollar boondoggle when it comes up for a vote today.

Live updates: www.newsweek.com...




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