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Fl districts requiring masks up to four times lower COVID-19 cases per capita 

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posted on Oct, 10 2021 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Well, good for you, don’t have to wear a horrible mask at work. Get it, really doesn’t work for selfie’s.

Denny



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

You


No, he said that it was common sense that a second layer should give more protection. He never instructed anyone to double mask.




Dr. Fauci demonstrates how to wear 2 masks correctly on TODAY

www.today.com...


Got any other false propaganda


Did he not say, in the article that you linked, "The recommendation is not that you have to wear two masks"?



Which has nothing to do with your original post of




I thought that the idea of double-masking was invented by those trying to deny the effectiveness of masks, as part of their nonsense disinfo campaign?



We are far from your original post of “ I thought that the idea of double-masking was invented by those trying to deny the effectiveness of masks,”

And your absolute statement of


He never instructed anyone to double mask.


Where Fauci literally gives instruction on how to wear two masks.



Dr. Fauci demonstrates how to wear 2 masks correctly on TODAY

www.today.com...




Anyway…





Double masking for COVID-19: CDC recommends wearing two masks at once

www.cnet.com...


Two masks are better than one. The new guidance for slowing the spread of COVID-19 is to double mask. First, Dr. Anthony Fauci endorsed it because "it just makes common sense," the chief medical adviser to the president told NBC News' Today. Now, the CDC recommends the same.





According to findings from a CDC study, wearing a cloth mask on top of a surgical mask helps improve the fit of the surgical mask.




edit on 11-10-2021 by neutronflux because: Fixed

edit on 11-10-2021 by neutronflux because: Added more cited material

edit on 11-10-2021 by neutronflux because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 05:51 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Really?

Then why the call to double mask.


I dunno. Do surgeons double mask?

Do we have any historical use of double masks, showing effectiveness?

I thought that the idea of double-masking was invented by those trying to deny the effectiveness of masks, as part of their nonsense disinfo campaign?


You know that’s utterly false and totally BS.

'Double Masking ‘Makes Common Sense,’ Fauci Says

Jan. 26, 2021 -- Anthony Fauci, MD, says wearing two masks is better than one when it comes to warding off the coronavirus.

www.webmd.com...


No, he said that it was common sense that a second layer should give more protection. He never instructed anyone to double mask.

I do know what Fauci said, a few days after the claims alleging that he'd advised to double mask were all over the Internet: "The CDC does not recommend that you should wear two masks, nor does the CDC recommend that you have to wear an N95 mask. They just say, 'The most important thing is get everybody to wear a mask,'" This was from a CNN Town Hall on January 27.

Watch the entire CNN coronavirus town hall


For Joe Biden, two face masks are better than one in the era of COVID-19

The former vice president said he arrived at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia for his separate town hall with an N95 mask under the blue surgical mask that he wore onto the stage.

"I walked in here with this mask, but I have one of the N95 masks underneath it. And I left it in the dressing room, the room I was in before I got here," Biden said when talking about the importance of masks to stop the spread of COVID-19 – and the importance of modeling good behavior.

www.usatoday.com...


... and a previous President advised people to take HQC (contrary to his own doctor's, and the CDC's advice), and that the sound of windmills cases cancer.

It is clear that US Presidents do, and say, dumb stuff.


Fauci did double mask for a while, on TV. Lick well, those boots need to shine.

eta:
www.cnn.com...
edit on 11-10-2021 by network dude because: Beto, what a stupid name.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: DaCook
a reply to: ketsuko

Well, good for you, don’t have to wear a horrible mask at work. Get it, really doesn’t work for selfie’s.

Denny





Uh-huh ...

No. We actually have the space to be distanced at our desks in our office. Gawd it must burn you that I'm a working professional and not an online whore as you implied.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: DaCook
a reply to: ketsuko

Well, good for you, don’t have to wear a horrible mask at work. Get it, really doesn’t work for selfie’s.

Denny





Uh-huh ...

No. We actually have the space to be distanced at our desks in our office. Gawd it must burn you that I'm a working professional and not an online whore as you implied.


He who smelt it, dealt it, as far as I'm concerned. Selfies seem to be a woke dude thing anymore anyway, maybe he fits that bill to a T.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 01:42 PM
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edit on 11/10/2021 by chr0naut because: Badly formatted post removed



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Really?

Then why the call to double mask.


I dunno. Do surgeons double mask?

Do we have any historical use of double masks, showing effectiveness?

I thought that the idea of double-masking was invented by those trying to deny the effectiveness of masks, as part of their nonsense disinfo campaign?


You know that’s utterly false and totally BS.

'Double Masking ‘Makes Common Sense,’ Fauci Says

Jan. 26, 2021 -- Anthony Fauci, MD, says wearing two masks is better than one when it comes to warding off the coronavirus.

www.webmd.com...


No, he said that it was common sense that a second layer should give more protection. He never instructed anyone to double mask.

I do know what Fauci said, a few days after the claims alleging that he'd advised to double mask were all over the Internet: "The CDC does not recommend that you should wear two masks, nor does the CDC recommend that you have to wear an N95 mask. They just say, 'The most important thing is get everybody to wear a mask,'" This was from a CNN Town Hall on January 27.

Watch the entire CNN coronavirus town hall

For Joe Biden, two face masks are better than one in the era of COVID-19

The former vice president said he arrived at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia for his separate town hall with an N95 mask under the blue surgical mask that he wore onto the stage.

"I walked in here with this mask, but I have one of the N95 masks underneath it. And I left it in the dressing room, the room I was in before I got here," Biden said when talking about the importance of masks to stop the spread of COVID-19 – and the importance of modeling good behavior.

www.usatoday.com...



... and a previous President advised people to take HQC (contrary to his own doctor's, and the CDC's advice), and that the sound of windmills cases cancer.

It is clear that US Presidents do, and say, dumb stuff.


Fauci did double mask for a while, on TV. Lick well, those boots need to shine.

eta:
www.cnn.com...


In all cases, the absurdity of what you choose to interpret as recommendations (even when they clearly state they are NOT their recommendations), from your political leadership, seems to have alluded you.




posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

Really?

Then why the call to double mask.


I dunno. Do surgeons double mask?

Do we have any historical use of double masks, showing effectiveness?

I thought that the idea of double-masking was invented by those trying to deny the effectiveness of masks, as part of their nonsense disinfo campaign?


You know that’s utterly false and totally BS.

'Double Masking ‘Makes Common Sense,’ Fauci Says

Jan. 26, 2021 -- Anthony Fauci, MD, says wearing two masks is better than one when it comes to warding off the coronavirus.

www.webmd.com...


No, he said that it was common sense that a second layer should give more protection. He never instructed anyone to double mask.

I do know what Fauci said, a few days after the claims alleging that he'd advised to double mask were all over the Internet: "The CDC does not recommend that you should wear two masks, nor does the CDC recommend that you have to wear an N95 mask. They just say, 'The most important thing is get everybody to wear a mask,'" This was from a CNN Town Hall on January 27.

Watch the entire CNN coronavirus town hall

For Joe Biden, two face masks are better than one in the era of COVID-19

The former vice president said he arrived at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia for his separate town hall with an N95 mask under the blue surgical mask that he wore onto the stage.

"I walked in here with this mask, but I have one of the N95 masks underneath it. And I left it in the dressing room, the room I was in before I got here," Biden said when talking about the importance of masks to stop the spread of COVID-19 – and the importance of modeling good behavior.

www.usatoday.com...



... and a previous President advised people to take HQC (contrary to his own doctor's, and the CDC's advice), and that the sound of windmills cases cancer.

It is clear that US Presidents do, and say, dumb stuff.


Fauci did double mask for a while, on TV. Lick well, those boots need to shine.

eta:
www.cnn.com...


In all cases, the absurdity of what you choose to interpret as recommendations (even when they clearly state they are NOT their recommendations), from your political leadership, seems to have alluded you.





The CDC is then a political tool?




Double masking for COVID-19: CDC recommends wearing two masks at once

www.cnet.com...


Two masks are better than one. The new guidance for slowing the spread of COVID-19 is to double mask. First, Dr. Anthony Fauci endorsed it because "it just makes common sense," the chief medical adviser to the president told NBC News' Today. Now, the CDC recommends the same.





According to findings from a CDC study, wearing a cloth mask on top of a surgical mask helps improve the fit of the surgical mask.




posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

What was that I was posting about cheap A$$ masks not sealing….



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

What is a 'case'?
Is it being sick?
Is it having bits of virus detritus (sic) sticking in your body?
Is it other coronaviruses causing bad results?


Screw this nonsense.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?

Why won't you answer?



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: DaCook
a reply to: ketsuko

Well, good for you, don’t have to wear a horrible mask at work. Get it, really doesn’t work for selfie’s.

Denny







Uh-huh ...

No. We actually have the space to be distanced at our desks in our office. Gawd it must burn you that I'm a working professional and not an online whore as you implied.


He who smelt it, dealt it, as far as I'm concerned. Selfies seem to be a woke dude thing anymore anyway, maybe he fits that bill to a T.


I think I've taken one selfie to date. I had to. Got tickets for the outdoor theatre from work, and HR stipulated you had to take one showing you and your party having fun (i.e. using the tickets and not selling them online).
edit on 11-10-2021 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?


Considering we live in a country of 350 million give or take ... What fraction is that? Considering we lose an average of 600,000 to cancer each year, when are we going to outright ban all known carcinogens? Considering 1.35 millions lose their lives to car crashes every year ... why on earth haven't we banned all forms of road transport worldwide?!



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?


Considering we live in a country of 350 million give or take ... What fraction is that? Considering we lose an average of 600,000 to cancer each year, when are we going to outright ban all known carcinogens? Considering 1.35 millions lose their lives to car crashes every year ... why on earth haven't we banned all forms of road transport worldwide?!


That's just whataboutisum and has no place in discussions.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?


That is a good question and definitely should be part of the analysis when looking at costs vs benefits of the Covid measures.

Unfortunately as I stated earlier no one in a leadership position is even trying to quantify those costs as well as others let alone gage them against the know benefits.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?


Considering we live in a country of 350 million give or take ... What fraction is that? Considering we lose an average of 600,000 to cancer each year, when are we going to outright ban all known carcinogens? Considering 1.35 millions lose their lives to car crashes every year ... why on earth haven't we banned all forms of road transport worldwide?!


That's just whataboutisum and has no place in discussions.


Nope. It’s actually in context of the discussion.

In the USA, about 30,000 to 50,000 die in audio accidents.

But, for covid that was sold as being a nature made virus…



‘One death is too many’: Florida mayors urge DeSantis to reconsider his approach to managing Covid-19

stpetecatalyst.com...



Sometimes nature has to run its course.

Like someone posted, the most deadly viruses usually consume victims before it can spread wide. Too me, it looks like the spread of covid was slowed just the right amount to let it mutate, and cause the most chaos.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: dandandat2
As the tit for tat battle between Florida's Ron DeSantis' administration and Joe Biden's administration heats up putting in question the states right to control its own education system ; it turns out that date shows that mask mandates in schools do in fact work.


Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, an independently-elected member of the Florida Cabinet, held a virtual press conference to release and discuss school district COVID-19 data which Governor Ron DeSantis’ administration has worked to block. This data shows clear evidence that school districts requiring masks resulted in up to four times lower COVID-19 cases per capita than school districts that did not require masks.

2.6 times lower student COVID-19 cases per capita in school districts starting the school year with mask requirements (Alachua, Broward, Miami-Dade) than school districts without mask requirementsSchool districts without mask requirements had nearly twice as many student COVID-19 cases as school districts requiring masksSchool districts without mask requirements, had nearly 3.5 times higher student COVID-19 peak cases per capita than school districts requiring mask.

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If it is true that masks mandates in schools keep kids safer does that fact override state sovereignty? In our modern times is safty a more important virtue than personal freedom and parental choice?


Fried is running against desantis in the next Gov race. She was voted in for agriculture commissioner and will never get elected as that again. In florida her department handles ccw permits and she is anti gun. She attempted to add delays and restrictions. In florida gun rights are a huge issue and attempting to infringe on them is basically like quitting the race.

The last dem candidate turned out to be a drug addict who really enjoyed spending time with male escorts.

The data seems suspect as well. Why is the correlation that mask mandate = less covid cases due to the mask mandate? There could be other factors in play. It's a cheap attempt at winning political points against desantis.

The masks only work when specific conditions are met. There is no way a 14 yr old kid in school is practicing proper mask protocol or changing his / her mask regularly - again with proper procedures. They are going to do virtually nothing when used by the general population - especially children.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?

Why won't you answer?


By your logic every kid should wear mask for the rest of their lives considering rhinovirus is by far the most abundant virus infecting kids. This is just silly and uncalled for. Kids should be kids. Running around free and wild and enjoying their lives, not made to suffocate behind a mask all day long.



posted on Oct, 11 2021 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: dandandat2

How many people need to die for you to push for masks and vaccinations?

Is 70,000 enough?


Considering we live in a country of 350 million give or take ... What fraction is that? Considering we lose an average of 600,000 to cancer each year, when are we going to outright ban all known carcinogens? Considering 1.35 millions lose their lives to car crashes every year ... why on earth haven't we banned all forms of road transport worldwide?!


I could not agree with you more if I tried. Just remember these are the same people who want to ban rifles over around 300 murders a year committed via them. Approximately 0.00025 the amount that die from auto accidents. No rush to ban private transportation though.




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