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They Blaming Heart inflammation on Moderna Not Pfizer.

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posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 02:47 PM
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You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

As now they after now blaming Moderna for heart inflammation despite an FDA warning on Pfizer. Health Canada has now joined other countries onto claiming that Heart Inflammations are now higher than Pfizer.

I have an issue when they claim that some had recovered quickly from it.

When you have sport athletes quitting their sports after contracting heart inflammation.

FDA adds warning about rare heart inflammation to Pfizer, Moderna Covid vaccines


Cases of heart inflammation higher after Moderna COVID-19 vaccine: Health Canada




The statement from the Public Health Agency of Canada said the majority of the affected individuals experienced relatively mild illness and recovered quickly. The risk of cardiac complications, including heart inflammation, has been shown to be substantially increased following COVID-19 infections, with the risks higher after the infection than after vaccination, according to the statement.


The biggest issue and problem unfortunately is that WHO is now supporting mRNA vaxs and still suggests the benefits outweigh the risks.





The benefits of mRNA shots in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks, regulators in the United States, EU and the World Health Organization have said.




posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 02:52 PM
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The usual MSM arent allowing this kind of subject to go unnoticed and go on blaming "Anti Vaxers"



A Canadian COVID-19 study that turned out to be wrong has spread like wildfire among anti-vaxxers

There are people like women who had heavy periods arent being reported into the system.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 02:55 PM
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Stupid anti-vaxxers causing all the heart inflammation of the vaxxed!

C’mon Man!




posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: slatesteam
Stupid anti-vaxxers causing all the heart inflammation of the vaxxed!

C’mon Man!



I know right? they all have heart inflammation because you didnt get your shot.

And some people are stupid enough to believe that BS



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: slatesteam
Stupid anti-vaxxers causing all the heart inflammation of the vaxxed!

C’mon Man!

Also: take your vitamins.

Mine don’t work if you don’t take yours.



I know right? they all have heart inflammation because you didnt get your shot.

And some people are stupid enough to believe that BS



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: vonclod



I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.

In number of my posts i usually always back up it with sources the problem is when i do sometimes some ignore it. And i will say this again.

Most of people who do have side effects many of those arent being reported into the system.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.
So. Is it true then that all these vaccines are still in trials or no?

I’ll wait.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 03:39 PM
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Both of these vaccines give heart problems to people, maybe the Moderna is a little worse, but neither of them are acceptable for a vaccine in respect to heart problems.

They keep doing this with the vaccines for this covid crap. They made a big issue about the Johnson vaccine and brain strokes but the clot issue is worse with the mRNA vaccines.....what is the difference if the clot is in the artery leading to the brain or in the brain itself...they are trying to shift our focus and make us look at a single side effect of one vaccine.

This is the most corrupt medical science I have ever seen in my life, sure medicine has always had corruption in it but this is a huge increase compared to what it has been over the decades. We had way better healthcare at way cheaper of a price back in the seventies and eighties.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: slatesteam

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.
So. Is it true then that all these vaccines are still in trials or no?

I’ll wait.

I don't even care!



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: slatesteam

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.
So. Is it true then that all these vaccines are still in trials or no?

I’ll wait.

I don't even care!
Clearly.

And yet that’s a tall horse you’re riding amigo.




posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 04:53 PM
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Someone told me to get Pfizer, another said Moderna, I should of said, get Astrazeneca.
edit on 8-10-2021 by Proto88 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: HawkEyi

My wife has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, not too terribly dissimilar from myocarditis and pericarditis, since they all involve enlarged hearts/swelling, inflammation of both the heart muscle and the lining the heart sits it. The outlook for these kinds of heart related conditions and inflammations are generally manageable for 5-10 years without a heart transplant and using lots of medications, but it is fatal, there is NO recovery. A heart transplant might provide another 5-10 years if the recipient is lucky.

My wife was on Amiodarone which almost killed her, it would have if I hadn't caught the interstitial lung disease that had started (SPO2 < 80%), which the doctors missed. So we took her off that crap and put her on Rythmodan. Now she's managed to recover a fair bit of lung function (SPO2 > 89%) now that the iodine that was stiffening the interstitial membrane has flushed out somewhat. She's also on Bisoprolol (beta blocker) to help manage arrhythmia via pressure management, blood thinners and two types of lasics (water pills).

She also has a very high pressure gradient in her lungs, it was over 100mg at one point, but has dropped considerably with med changes. We don't know if the heart created the lung problems or the lungs created the heart problems. She has an extremely restrictive diet for salt (1200mg/day) and water intake (1500ml/day). This of course creates kidney and other issues because of the "balancing act," so she gets stones because her body chemistry has been screwed up by the meds.

When she gets kidney stones, she bleeds constantly, because she is on Elequis (blood thinners). Just imagine what going to the toilet is like and how worried you'd be if you were pissing blood and filling the toilet bright red. She also gets gall stones, again a body chemistry thing due to meds. She has to give blood so she can get her ferritin levels down or, more kidney and liver issues caused by meds.

To round it all out, she has had 3 surgeries to put in one pacemaker/ICD, again the idiot doctors at Southlake wouldn't listen. They put a defective Abbott Pacemaker/ICD in her, it failed, they blamed it on the leads, so they put in another set of leads a few months later. A month after the second operation, the Abbott Pacemaker/ICD failed again, so they finally listened to me and installed another pacemaker/ICD in her that I chose.

She has had 4 (four) congestive heart failures (CHF), the first one due to her hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, arrhythmia and an idiot doctor at Toronto General Hospital that didn't give her the ablation she needed and ignored her for 2 years, she has a good doctor there now. The turd that runs that department however, needs to be put out on the farm where he can't do any more damage, he's a senile old fool in an ascot. The other 3 (three) CHF's occurred in Southlake General Hospital in Newmarket, Ontario, because the idiot emerg doctors pumped her full of fluids without reading her chart before I could get in there and stop them. She gained 10 lbs in a hour from 4 litres of fluid. F**king idiots! Or in the alternative, the Pace Clinic didn't read her chart and miss-programmed her pacemaker/ICD which lead to heart failure.

Southlake and Toronto General Hospital know who I am and if they want to challenge me in court, let's f**king dance! I will get my pound(s) of flesh one way or another. This is just information to let people know to be careful and watch what the hospitals and doctors do at all times and of course below.....

The only reason I am telling you all this, is because once you have these heart issues, they never go away, they are permanent, eventually fatal in the short term and you have to deal with them constantly. It doesn't matter if it's from the jab or it's genetic plus the meds they give you create secondary and tertiary issues up the whazoo, you have to check everything, all the time. So when these @sshole actors pretending to be doctors, these bought and paid for stooges and shills on the TV, tell you it's all good and it's only temporary, THEY ARE LYING. My wife and I deal with this sh!t constantly.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: HawkEyi

My medical practice now has an automated message saying that if you have any symptoms of a heart attack, call an ambulance.

They didn't say that until a couple of months ago.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: HawkEyi

Yes the ENLARGER AND INFLAMED Moderna does just this.

I got the Moderna 6-12-21


Edit: honestly I thought a bad case of Pleurisy too. 😧
edit on 8-10-2021 by Bigburgh because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: slatesteam

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.
So. Is it true then that all these vaccines are still in trials or no?

I’ll wait.


Yep, some companies pay people to test drugs. Cash Money.

So yeah, we're the test subjects during this trial.



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

Both Sweden and Demark just put a hold on using the Moderna vaccine for some age groups. Personally, I would rather take my chances with the China virus, due to the growing list of therapeutic options out there, and gain "immunity" the old-fashioned way. Pick your poison, I guess.


The Swedish health authority Wednesday cited new data on the increased risk of heart inflammation as a reason for the pause for those aged 30 and under. Denmark will stop giving the shot to those younger than 18.

The two countries recommended Pfizer Inc.’s and BioNTech SE’s rival vaccine as a replacement. Both vaccinations use messenger RNA technology to prompt an immune reaction.

Sweden’s public health watchdog said a new preliminary analysis from the Nordic region indicates that the connection between vaccination and heart inflammation is clearest with the Moderna shot, especially after the second dose. The higher risk comes within four weeks of vaccination, and usually in the first two weeks, it said.

www.bloomberg.com...


In an interview, Moderna Chief Executive Officer Stephane Bancel said that larger datasets including real world data from the United States indicate that the risk of myocarditis is similar between the two vaccines. Also, he said the risk of contracting myocarditis from Covid is much greater than the chances of coming down with the heart condition after getting the vaccine.

edit on 8-10-2021 by ELECTEDOFFICIAL because: quit playing games with my heart



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: ELECTEDOFFICIAL



Pick your poison, I guess. Personally, I would rather take my chances with Covid-19, due to the growing list of therapeutic options out there, and gain "immunity" the old-fashioned way.

And I respect your choice. No excuses, no crazy conspiracies, you made a choice!

I'm good with that, not that it matters what I'm good with. I just tire of the doom porn, and hyperbole.





ETA, I replied before your edit, all good regardless.
edit on 8-10-2021 by vonclod because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: HawkEyi




You have now two studies from Israel supposedly claiming to suggest and claim getting heart inflammation from Pfizer is very Low despite a study just this year which showed that young people/youth are likely to develop heart inflammation heart inflammation.

Likely? what a pile of bovine scat..I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.


Why did the Pfizer rep tell the FDA panel when asked that the risk of cardiac complications does not outweigh the risk of severe complications from COVID until someone is basically well into their 40s?

He had to have made that answer when asked about that specific side effect by the FDA panel for a reason because you *know* he definitely did not want to as it wasn't in the best interests of his company who wanted to get universal boosters approved for all.

Source< br />

edit on 8-10-2021 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2021 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: vonclod



I would ask you to back that up, but you can't and wont, you never do.

In number of my posts i usually always back up it with sources the problem is when i do sometimes some ignore it. And i will say this again.

Most of people who do have side effects many of those arent being reported into the system.

I don't mean to rag on you, but this..


Most of people who do have side effects many of those arent being reported into the system

You know, that is goal post moving


Now, if a side effect is unreported, it probably wasn't worth reporting..that's how I view it.

Anyway, have a nice evening




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