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originally posted by: kwakakev
One conflict between legal and lawful is number 9 of the 10 commandments, You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
13 NONCLINICAL TOXICOLOGY
13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility
COMIRNATY has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity, genotoxicity, or impairment of
male fertility. In a developmental toxicity study in rats with COMIRNATY there were no vaccine-related
effects on female fertility [see Use in Specific Populations (8.1)]
originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: anonentity
Not experimental any more. I hope you can get over this.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: anonentity
Not experimental any more. I hope you can get over this.
Yes it is, since the non experimental version is not yet available.
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: anonentity
Not experimental any more. I hope you can get over this.
Yes it is, since the non experimental version is not yet available.
It's been available since Dec 2020 - Phase I - III is the experimental stage, it had the biggest trials of any vax or medicine. It's been in phase IV since it was made available to the public in Dec 2020 which is an optional, non experimental phase that investigates all suspected side effects in the less than 1 in 500,000 incidence rate.
They've been fully approved for several months now. It went through the exact same testing of any other med or vaccine but with far more accurate trials as around 10x the standard ammount of participants took part in the trials.
The reason it was developed quicker than past ones is it affects people in 1st world countries - usually big pharma doesn't allocate much/any funds or personel to develop vaccines - 90% of the time there's no vax development or studies being conducted as staff are busy trying to apply for grants and arguing against management and bearaucrats who are only iterested in profit rather than public health.
The Cov-19 vaccines had more researchers, resources and funds allocated to it than any previous vaccine or medicine. Science and technology have advanced significantly since sequencing could be condfucted and computers can analyse and compute mass ammounts of data. A candidate was already avaliable from day 1 as opposed to the usual 4 - 5 year period to find one.
The 'long-term effects' thing is a myth and misunderstanding of how clinical trials or how the vaccine works. It'd require a sample size of a few hundred million to seperate effects caused by trillions of envionmental variables and a one off vaccine, even then it's very wooly science that wouldn't produce a reliable result.
It may be a valid hypothesis for people getting regular boosters but otherwise it's a one off shot - it's not like a medicine people have to take daily that would be consumed 3650 times in a 10 year period and have a constant presence is blood/organs/brain etc.
originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: anonentity
What I don't get is the absence of common law with regard to informed consent and mandated injections. Source
What we know is it's impossible to give informed consent, because it's an experiment. So your employer gives you a mandate to get the spike. You go to get the spike, the person administering the spike cannot give you information for you to provide informed consent, because nobody can, so you reject the option of being spiked go back to your employer, tell them it's impossible to give informed consent, and then they give you the sack for not enrolling in the experiment.
Legally, I'm not seeing how that can work.
originally posted by: Hecate666
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: anonentity
The approved vaccines are not experimental.
Phase III trials have been completed and billions of doses have been administered.
They are experimental until we have mid to longterm data. Just because some corrupt agency is on the way to approval, waiting for the exact list of ingredients before they can finalise, doesn't make the clot shot magically safe.
Informed consent cannot be given until we get the full list of ingredients and the full long term data, nevermind how much your beloved dear leaders want you to put this poison into your veins.
This is in the experimental phase until 2023, officially and really should have been halted after the first deaths.
There is nothing safe and nobody has a crystal ball to see how it fares in 5-10 years, nobody, not the fda, nor the pharma industry, nor you nor me.
All we know is that it is lethal for tens of thousands and crippling for millions. So far, future not even included. With two braincells it is possible to see that the chances of it getting less damaging/fatal is zero. It can only take more healthy lives, regardless of any humans giving approval.
Which by the way can also be removed very quickly too.
Hence it's all babble and bootlicking to suggest this is approved and safe, when it logically really isn't.
Oh and human test subjects normally consent, get paid and get to be observed daily in proper trials. I worked in the field.
The whole idea of taking an experimental vaccine
originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: anonentity
The whole idea of taking an experimental vaccine
Pfizer is FDA approved, therefore not experimental.