Part 5: Leaked pfizer emails show suppression of truth

a reply to: SoundisVibration

I think alot of the pro-liers know what's in vaccines, they have been called crazy for years.

I assume everyone is talking about christianity.

God in no way says abortion goes against the Christian faith. Pretty sure he doesnt mention it.

Jews dont even believe, according to teachings, that life begins at conception.

Besides, this is not aborted fetal tissue, its cell cultures.

So you cant use religious exemption for this.

I still believe you should be able to refuse the jab and not lose your job, but that isn't a reality for alot of americans.

a reply to: ketsuko
All 3 Hebraic religions believe in not taking anything into the body which may harm it.
The body is the Temple of God .

a reply to: loam
As Catholic, I know that this in most of the cases is the result of ignorance and fear. For example, my local priest is way too overweight and he is very worried about dying because of the unvaccinated. In the case of the Pope, is just because of ignorance. Of course, others support the vaccine just because they are evil.

a reply to: albiore79

I guess papal infallibility isn't so infallible after all.

a reply to: RMFX1

That's a good point. It does increase the odds of trying to milk it for what it's worth. But conversely it can also be a way of ensuring that it gets seen. Not just debunked via a reverse Gish gallop.

As opposed to what? Simply discarding those tissues?

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

It still is far easier to forge the card than it is to get some sort of exemption.

That said, I got my shots and have been happy about it ever since. Much less concerned about the CCP's bio weapon now that I have at least some defense against it

originally posted by: loam
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Catholics should be in an uproar.

They weren't too upset when they elected Hitler or when the Vatican signed a concordat with Nazi Germany.

“In the cold facts of German history, the Cross and the swastika came ever closer together, until the swastika proclaimed the message of victory from the towers of German cathedrals, swastika flags appeared round altars and Catholic and Protestant theologians, pastors, churchmen and statesmen welcomed the alliance with Hitler.”​—God’s First Love, page 247, by Friedrich Heer, a Roman Catholic professor of history at Vienna University.

Revelation 17:2 speaks also of the great harlot’s fornication with “the kings of the earth.” Though she has suffered a fall, she is still very much a friend of the world, and she tries to manipulate worldly rulers to gain her ends. (James 4:4) This spiritual harlotry, consisting of illicit relations between Babylon the Great and the political rulers, has resulted in the untimely death of tens of millions of innocent people! It was bad enough that the great harlot was involved on both sides of the fighting in World War I. But her sins in relation to World War II have surely “massed together clear up to heaven”! (Revelation 18:5) Why so?

Well, to take one example, how did the tyrant Adolf Hitler become chancellor​—and dictator—​of Germany? It was through the political intrigue of a papal knight whom the previous German chancellor, Kurt von Schleicher, described as “the kind of traitor next to whom Judas Iscariot is a saint.” This was Franz von Papen, who marshaled Catholic Action and leaders in industry to oppose communism and unite Germany under Hitler. As part of a sellout bargain, von Papen was made vice-chancellor. Hitler sent a delegation headed by von Papen to Rome to negotiate a concordat between the Nazi State and the Vatican. Pope Pius XI remarked to the German envoys how pleased he was that “the German Government now had at its head a man uncompromisingly opposed to Communism,” and on July 20, 1933, at an elaborate ceremony in the Vatican, Cardinal Pacelli (who was soon to become Pope Pius XII) signed the concordat.* [For obvious reasons, two clauses of the Concordat were kept secret at the time, these dealing with a common front against the Soviet Union and the duties of Catholic priests conscripted in Hitler’s army. Such conscription was a violation of the Treaty of Versailles (1919) to which Germany was still bound; public knowledge of this clause could have disturbed other Versailles signatories.]

One historian writes: “The Concordat [with the Vatican] was a great victory for Hitler. It gave him the first moral support he had received from the outer world, and this from the most exalted source.” During the celebrations at the Vatican, Pacelli conferred on von Papen the high papal decoration of the Grand Cross of the Order of Pius.* Winston Churchill, in his book The Gathering Storm, published in 1948, tells how von Papen further used “his reputation as a good Catholic” to gain church support for the Nazi takeover of Austria. In 1938, in honor of Hitler’s birthday, Cardinal Innitzer ordered that all Austrian churches fly the swastika flag, ring their bells, and pray for the Nazi dictator. [*: Franz von Papen was among the Nazis who were tried as war criminals at Nuremberg, Germany, in the late 1940’s. He was acquitted but later drew a stiff sentence from a German denazification court. Still later, in 1959, he was made a Papal Privy Chamberlain.]

A terrible bloodguilt therefore rests on the Vatican! As a leading part of Babylon the Great, it helped significantly in putting Hitler into power and in giving him “moral” support. The Vatican went further in tacitly consenting to Hitler’s atrocities. During the long decade of Nazi terror, the Roman pontiff kept quiet while hundreds of thousands of Catholic soldiers were fighting and dying for the glory of the Nazi regime and while millions of other unfortunates were being liquidated in Hitler’s gas chambers.

The German Catholic bishops even gave open support to Hitler. On the same day that Japan, Germany’s wartime partner at the time, made the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, The New York Times carried this report: “The Conference of German Catholic Bishops assembled in Fulda has recommended the introduction of a special ‘war prayer’ which is to be read at the beginning and end of all divine services. The prayer implores Providence to bless German arms with victory and grant protection to the lives and health of all soldiers. The Bishops further instructed Catholic clergy to keep and remember in a special Sunday sermon at least once a month German soldiers ‘on land, on sea and in the air.’”

If there had been no love affair between the Vatican and the Nazis, the world might have been spared the agony of having scores of millions of soldiers and civilians killed in the war and six million Jews murdered for being non-Aryan.

THE NEW YORK TIMES

Monday, September 25, 1939.

German Soldiers Rallied by Churches

Protestant and Catholic Exhort to Reich Victory and Just Peace

Wireless to The New York Times

FRANKFORT-ON-THE-MAIN, Germany, Sept. 24​—Periodicals of the German Protestant and Catholic Churches are now publishing many exhortive articles explaining the duties of soldiers fighting in the defense of their country and admonishing the German soldiers to fight in the spirit of Saint Michael for a German victory and a just peace.

The archangel is shown, brandishing a battlesword and piercing a dragon with a holy lance, on the front page of Catholic papers.

In the western and southern German Catholic dioceses, the clergy headed by the Archbishop and Bishops, are actively engaged in work for the welfare of refugees evacuated from the western frontier districts. Many cloisters have been transformed into hospitals and the monks and nuns are working under the direction of the Red Cross.

The Catholic Bishops of Germany have issued a pastoral letter stating:

“In this decisive hour we admonish our Catholic soldiers to do their duty in obedience to the Fuehrer and be ready to sacrifice their whole individuality.

“We appeal to the faithful to join in ardent prayers that the Divine Providence of God Almighty may lead this war to blessed success and peace for our fatherland and nations.” [below is not from The New York Times]

Since 1914, two world wars and over a hundred smaller conflicts have spilled an ocean of blood. A century ago, French writer Guy de Maupassant said that “the egg from which wars are hatched” is patriotism, which he called “a kind of religion.” In fact, The Encyclopedia of Religion says that patriotism’s cousin, nationalism, “has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world, preempting a void left by the deterioration of traditional religious values.” (Italics added.) By failing to promote true worship, false religion created the spiritual vacuum into which nationalism was able to pour.

Nowhere was this better illustrated than in Nazi Germany, whose citizens at the beginning of World War II claimed to be 94.4 percent Christian. Of all places, Germany​—birthplace of Protestantism and praised in 1914 by Pope Pius X as home of “the best Catholics in the world”—​should have represented the very best that Christendom had to offer.

Significantly, Catholic Adolf Hitler found readier support among Protestants than among Catholics. Predominantly Protestant districts gave him 20 percent of their votes in the 1930 elections, Catholic districts only 14 percent. And the first absolute majority for the Nazi Party in state elections was in 1932 in Oldenburg, a district 75 percent Protestant.

Apparently, the “void left by the deterioration of traditional religious values” was greater in Protestantism than in Catholicism. Understandably so. Liberalized theology and higher criticism of the Bible were mainly the product of German-speaking Protestant theologians.

Equally significant is what finally solidified lagging Catholic support behind Hitler. German historian Klaus Scholder explains that “by tradition German Catholicism had especially close ties with Rome.” Seeing in Nazism a bulwark against Communism, the Vatican was not averse to using its influence to strengthen Hitler’s hand. “Fundamental decisions shifted more and more to the Curia,” says Scholder, “and in fact Catholicism’s status and future in the Third Reich was finally decided almost solely in Rome.”

The part Christendom played in both world wars led to a severe loss of prestige. As the Concise Dictionary of the Christian World Mission explains: “Non-Christians had before their eyes . . . the evident fact that nations with a thousand years of Christian teaching behind them had failed to control their passions and had set the whole world ablaze for the satisfaction of less than admirable ambitions.”

Of course, religiously motivated wars are nothing new. But in contrast with the past when nations of different religions warred with one another, the 20th century has increasingly found nations of the same religion locked in bitter conflict. The god of nationalism has clearly been able to manipulate the gods of religion. Thus, during World War II, while Catholics and Protestants in Great Britain and the United States were killing Catholics and Protestants in Italy and Germany, Buddhists in Japan were doing the same to their Buddhist brothers in southeast Asia.

Nevertheless, in view of its own bloodstained clothing, Christendom cannot self-righteously shake its finger at others. By advocating, supporting, and at times electing imperfect human governments, professed Christians and non-Christians alike must share responsibility for the blood these governments have shed.

But what kind of religion would put government above God and offer its own members as political sacrifices on the altar of the god of war?

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: SoundisVibration

The responses here so far are disturbingly ignorant.

The fetal cells used are grown in a lab, from, yes aborted fetal cells, but from ones taken up to 50 years ago.

Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating the fetal cell lines I mentioned above. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

www.nebraskamed.com...

So what? 50 years ago, 5 years ago. They are what they are, and they are trying to lie about it.

originally posted by: nonspecific
It's a bit of a weak whistleblow really.

I've known this since before the vaccines were even approved for use.

As far as I'm aware it's been commonly known and in the open since the start.



a reply to: Chadwickus

Is that why they are discussing on how to keep this out of the public ?

Pretty sure that when this was mentioned by "anti-vaxxers" That you called them nutjobs and this misinformation and now that is comes out do a typical 180 and pretend this has been public and accepted knowledge all this time. Which is it never was.

Well, outside of the "Conspiracy nutcases" that is.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: UNOHOO

Hmmm..

So decades of institutional rape of children and the multiple cover ups by the Catholic Church is just fine and dandy, but some lab grown cells from aborted foetus’ 50 years, nah, can’t do it man.

Funny i always see you shout "catholic priests !!" in about 5 of 10 of your posts but never ever saw you try to take a stand against the massive child rape and murder in the middle east. in particular in Afghanistan right now where 10 year old girls are being pulled out of their homes by the Taliban.

In short you dont really care. You are only here to spin.

originally posted by: thebtheb

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: SoundisVibration

The responses here so far are disturbingly ignorant.

The fetal cells used are grown in a lab, from, yes aborted fetal cells, but from ones taken up to 50 years ago.

Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating the fetal cell lines I mentioned above. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.

www.nebraskamed.com...

So what? 50 years ago, 5 years ago. They are what they are, and they are trying to lie about it.

That claim that the fetuses are 50 years old is just damage control. As if they keep warehouses full of 50 year old fetuses that can fulfill a worldwide production of "vaccines".

originally posted by: IAMTAT
So people are supporting the use of aborted baby organs when they get the jab?

Yes.

Their lives to prolong our own.

Join us. One of us, one of us, one of us.

If you go onto Twitter.

COVID-19 vaccines do not contain fetal tissue or cells, fact-checkers say

They are once again using "Fact Checkers"

I was sitting wasting time reading and had a small brainfart.
amyone know if it's possible to protect whistleblowers and their damning information using the Etherum blockchain?
...or maybe we could start a veritas blockchain. what do you think?

originally posted by: HawkEyi
If you go onto Twitter.

COVID-19 vaccines do not contain fetal tissue or cells, fact-checkers say

They are once again using "Fact Checkers"

Only media zombie's believe in "fact checkers" the rest of us know they are fakes as F. And then you know have the spinners like Chadwickus who now pretend to have always know this to be true and that it was always out in the open and public knowledge.

It's been openly known since December 2020.

I'm just a bog standard member of the public and I've known about it for getting on ten months.

Search the internet and you'll find loads of articles and discussions about it dating back to mid December last year.

It's not been kept secret it's just some people did not know about it.

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: nonspecific
It's a bit of a weak whistleblow really.

I've known this since before the vaccines were even approved for use.

As far as I'm aware it's been commonly known and in the open since the start.



a reply to: Chadwickus

Is that why they are discussing on how to keep this out of the public ?

Pretty sure that when this was mentioned by "anti-vaxxers" That you called them nutjobs and this misinformation and now that is comes out do a typical 180 and pretend this has been public and accepted knowledge all this time. Which is it never was.

Well, outside of the "Conspiracy nutcases" that is.

a reply to: HawkEyi

That's actually true.

An unkwown amount of time ago, there was an abortion. Fetal kidney cells and other fetal cells
were taken from that dead baby.

Those cells were cultured, or grown (multiplied ) into a large enough quantity to be used in the testing and development of a vax for covid.

Before injecting these new compounds and mixtures into a currently live human being they are tested in a dish with the fetal cells to simulate and determine the relative safety, reactivity and toxicity to the various organs.

I believe all these vaccines and probably all medicines are now preliminarily tested for safety and toxicity first using various fetal cell lines to determine toxicity to those specific types of cells and respective organs.

So yes, this research technology is made possible by aborted fetal cells. The final product doesn't contain aborted fetal cells. They're not a necessary ingredient, they're expensive and to many immoral or evil.

They gotta sell as many shots as possible right?

You should "do some research" and see what other drugs have used the hek293 line of cells in their research and development.

I bet you've had at least a couple without realising.

Some members may be disappointed to see that ivermectin is on the list.



a reply to: SoundisVibration