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originally posted by: JIMC5499
" No one should have power over the conversations we want to have with other free citizens."
If we were paying for Facebook, I'd say that you are right, but, we are NOT paying for it. It's their site, they have the right to do as they please with it. If you don't like it, you are free not to go there.
We have a small local Mall. There's a group who thinks that they have a right to run their protests in the open area. To this point the owners of the Mall haven't done anything about it. They agreed with the views of the protesters. A few weeks ago these protesters assaulted and injured several people. This lead to a majority of the tenant stores asking the Owners to ban the protests. The owners refused. Last week the stores gave notice that they were leaving. Now the owners have changed their mind.
Facebook owns Facebook. They can do what they want with it. If you don't like it, you are free not to go there. Like the owners of the stores. They didn't like what the Owners were doing, so they exercised their right to go elsewhere. That's the only right that you have in this.
originally posted by: TrollMagnet
FB is not free. We pay with our personal information. Since that is valuable to them, it has a monetary value. Your argument we don't pay is wrong. We just don't pay with cash.
If anything of value is traded, thats a payment.
originally posted by: Signals
It’s not just FB, it’s a ton of sites. I’m surprised ATS is still up.
originally posted by: JIMC5499
originally posted by: TrollMagnet
FB is not free. We pay with our personal information. Since that is valuable to them, it has a monetary value. Your argument we don't pay is wrong. We just don't pay with cash.
If anything of value is traded, thats a payment.
You are perfectly free to with hold that information thus with holding payment. They are free to do as they please.
originally posted by: gb540
originally posted by: Signals
It’s not just FB, it’s a ton of sites. I’m surprised ATS is still up.
You'd be surprised at the number of sites that connect to Facebook for whatever reason. Probably stalled out waiting for server replies.
See it quite a bit on the progress/activity/whatever bar when pages are loading. And for example why does an auto parts site need to connect to FB when I'm searching for filters??
originally posted by: Signals
Holy Schnikees check this out—
livemap.pingdom.com...
originally posted by: TrollMagnet
Wrong again. While the constitution regulated the government explicitly in many cases, it is actually the law of the land. Just because you are not part of the gov does not mean you can break the laws they cannot break. That's a fools argument.
originally posted by: projectvxn
Here's hoping it's bad enough to destroy them forever.
originally posted by: putnam6
Hmmm, possibly governmental ordered?
Could there be some other news about to break, Government shuts it down, to keep things quiet. Its not that they are down perse, it is what is the reason all the sites crash at once all of them are in different places it ain't a circuit breaker.
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: projectvxn
Here's hoping it's bad enough to destroy them forever.
Don't give hope 99.999% of social media is definitely crap society would be better without.
Imagine COVID minus social media influence...
originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Not a word on major MSM yet , My account has been down around 4 hours now