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originally posted by: JIMC5499
" No one should have power over the conversations we want to have with other free citizens."
If we were paying for Facebook, I'd say that you are right, but, we are NOT paying for it. It's their site, they have the right to do as they please with it. If you don't like it, you are free not to go there.
We have a small local Mall. There's a group who thinks that they have a right to run their protests in the open area. To this point the owners of the Mall haven't done anything about it. They agreed with the views of the protesters. A few weeks ago these protesters assaulted and injured several people. This lead to a majority of the tenant stores asking the Owners to ban the protests. The owners refused. Last week the stores gave notice that they were leaving. Now the owners have changed their mind.
Facebook owns Facebook. They can do what they want with it. If you don't like it, you are free not to go there. Like the owners of the stores. They didn't like what the Owners were doing, so they exercised their right to go elsewhere. That's the only right that you have in this.
originally posted by: OlllTymer
All you guys know it wasn't a ddos attack right? It was literally just a routing error. I traced packets to facebook during the event and it was 100% not ddos.
originally posted by: TrollMagnet
It seems there is a very large DDoS attack on FB right now. Either that, or someone pwned a bunch of DNS systems a while back and are now using them to deny service to everything Facebook, including Instagram and WhatsApp.
FACEBOK GLOBAL OUTAGE AFTER WHISTLEBLOWER
I for one am pretty happy about this. I hope whoever has done this relentlessly keeps at it causing them to lose so much money and trust they collapse.
In case you missed it, here is the FB whistleblower last night on 60 minutes showing how Facebook forces people and organizations to do evil in order to compete for attention in the add space.
Facebook Whistleblower
The most interesting thing from this interview is not that FB censors. We all knew that. Their reasons for what they censor however seem horrible. A lot of people assumed its mainly a political slant they follow, but that appears wrong now. They amplify all negative content, and remove less than 5% because people love to hate, so they engage more hate to get you back. Now politicians and others are upset that the only way they can get clicks on FB, is to make their adds lean to one extreme or the other, because that gets engagement and gives them better ROI on their adds. It seems Facebook has setup a system where advertisers, groups, and anything else needs to take crazy or absurd extremists positions to get attention and clicks. Then those positions are adopted by different sides, and make them more extreme the next time around for the next click.
They are intentionally driving political extremism, but apparently its for money, not a political slant. While individuals removing posts or posting warning may be very political, their business model overall promotes people hating and attacking each other, or the other side for clicks. They normalized it.
The level of bad ethics here is beyond what anyone thought. We all could understand maybe Zuck using his power to steer things how he wants, but it seems more like they dont have interest in that in the day to day. They primarily steer both sides against they other because they come back more to hate than they come back for any other reason. They are like the kid on the playground trying to start fights between other kids for fun. Only instead of for fun, they are doing it for billions of dollars. Facebook has been sneakier about it than anyone ever could have imagined.
Well now they are caught, and their sites are currently down. Time for popcorn. Lets hope for mankind, this is the beginning of the end for them. All social media should be neutral and open sourced. No one should be able to promote or hide anything in public discourse online. It was the ignorance of the masses that let us get here in the first place. There is no reason for people to have the power to curate or amplify what they want.
It seems if there is a future for social media, the one who will win in the long run will be whoever can design an open sourced and encrypted distributed social media network that cannot be manipulated, IMHO. No one should have power over the conversations we want to have with other free citizens.
originally posted by: Cymru
originally posted by: OlllTymer
All you guys know it wasn't a ddos attack right? It was literally just a routing error. I traced packets to facebook during the event and it was 100% not ddos.
See my previous posts in this thread
And this from today ...
www.theregister.com...
originally posted by: opethPA
originally posted by: Cymru
originally posted by: OlllTymer
All you guys know it wasn't a ddos attack right? It was literally just a routing error. I traced packets to facebook during the event and it was 100% not ddos.
See my previous posts in this thread
And this from today ...
www.theregister.com...
It's been proven over and over recently that ATS long ago stopped being about finding the truth or denying ignorance.
Most here simply won't care about BGP, layer 3 or anything else and that is fine. Maybe that isn't what they do for a living or hobby but they will make sure to continue the belief that black hats hit white hats with a L0pht script because they saw it on Bitchute.
analyses that Facebook yesterday withdrew the border gateway protocol (BGP) routing to its own DNS servers, causing its domain names to fail to resolve.
originally posted by: jidnum
Facebook whistleblower is a front. I mean....Jen Psakis PR firm is representing her. could it be more blatant that it's all just a rouse and distraction from something else?
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: Bloodworth
he came up with it to be creeepy and try and find girls at his school
guy is for sure a android or alien
zuckerburg that is, and to top it off he is all chummy with the CCP
hey amplify all negative content, and remove less than 5% because people love to hate, so they engage more hate to get you back.