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Why I finally quit the Democratic party (earlier this year)

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posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: Elton
Progressives trying to push the Democratic party further left until it feels like the party of nonsense


My grandparents (onetime solid party-line Democrats) said just that somewhere between Johnson and Roe v Wade. Imagine what they'd think today.

Actually our cemetery has been seeing quite a bit of settling. They're probably all rolling over in their graves!



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Elton

I was beginning to wonder if all democrats were zombies. I don’t have political affiliations or participate in the selection process but it does make me smile to see someone wake up.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: Elton

I've always been a registered Independent.

Always.




posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Elton

Welcome to reality. At this point, you are not alone as reality rears it's ugly head to anyone that sees and critically analyzes truth.
Not bragging here but my realization of the true nature of the democratic party happened 30+ years ago. I started seeing the corruption when bill clinton was governor of Arkansas.

Congratulations for breaking out of the matrix. You took the Red Pill.
edit on 2-10-2021 by CharlesT because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: glen200376




It shouldn't be left v. right etc,it should be the people against the globalist communists.

You just hit on the main problem with this 2 party system. It keeps the citizens in a constant state of division. It's the old divide and conquer strategy. And it has worked for over 200 years here.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: Elton

You forgot the blatant corruption. You have to donate to certain "Foundations" to get an audience or favors.



The Clintons are Bill-ionaires: Their fundraising has topped $3 billion in 41 years - and they've cashed in personally

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Inside Nancy Pelosi’s Husband’s $5 Million Alphabet Options Windfall

www.forbes.com...



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 03:49 PM
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I have been a registered Independent for many years, can't even remember when I was registered anything else. Truth is, I've watched the Demonrat party go from left-wing nuts to full blown Communist scum over the past few decades, and the truth is the GOP has done the same thing but on a slower pace. Left wing/Right wing are still part of the same bird--who only care about power, and who controls the purse strings...Mitch McConnell, anyone?

Communism is EVIL, and has always been so, along with all of the other totalitarian control philosophies like Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, etc., etc. Those who say "Nazi's are far RIGHT" are idiots who don't know their history, and are likely the same ones who support the "Anti-Fascists" Antifa--who are absolutely Fascistic in their methods. Truth is communism and its kindred philosophies ALWAYS use the same M.O. when taking over a country: 1. Gain some support through deception, outright lies, and corruption. 2. Start violent planned "protests" that destroy property, kill and/or maim their detractors, and gain scared followers who don't want to get their asses beat (or worse). 3. "Elect" (or appoint) a strongman who will then lead through violence and force. 4. Eliminate all "useful idiots" as Lenin called them--i.e., the "true believers" who really think that "Nirvana" can be reached here on Earth through "the workers: or the "collective" or other some other bull shiite thought process. Those who really believe that show their ignorance of not just history, but of human nature.

Oh, for the record: Trump was by FAR the most conservative President since Ronald Reagan. He was an ass, no doubt; however, his actions proved him to be a patriot and a conservative. If you can't support that comrade, then you're part of the problem.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Elton

Been an 'I' for years now, couldn't really get behind either party after Reagan..



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: incoserv


Question is, why would you be a Democrat in the first place?

Not to answer for the OP, but there was a time when - however precariously - the two different ends of the political spectrum were a good necessity. I've often said that nobody is right all the time. When opposing views can openly dialog for a true mutual understanding, or at least a reasonable compromise, we check one another.

That does not happen anymore.


I could understand that if the two parties were anywhere near the ends of the spectrum. The Democrats were, at their most extreme, a centrist liberal - centrist liberal in the real world sense, not the online soundbite sense - party. They were never a convincing alternative to the Republican Party, just a milder version, a political Pepsi v Coke thing.
edit on 2-10-2021 by Whodathunkdatcheese because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: Nunyadambizness
3. "Elect" (or appoint) a strongman who will then lead through violence and force.


Because Biden is more of a strongman than Trump?

Oh, and Trump being a Conservative? Which traditional values did he stand for? Fidelity? Truth? Faith? Honesty?



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
I was a long time registered Republican, though I mostly voted for independents. I remained a Republican so that I could vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

In 16 I registered Democrat so that I could vote against Clinton in the primaries over there. I had no idea that my ole party would veer so dramatically off course in into the hands of a con man, but veer they did.

I stayed registered Democrat in 2020 so that I could vote for Tulsi Gabbard in their primaries.

Now I will be switching again, back to Republican so that I can vote in the primaries in that party again. Against Trump and any of his acolytes.

The insanity in both parties is mind numbing. One seems to be a down the middle schism while the other seems a mish mash of confusion.

Man we need a third party NOW. We need to tell the zealots in both sides to simmer down and lets pull it together before it is to late. And sure, it may be to late already, but maybe not.


What is someone snitched on you so they would reject your party change?(hypothetical)

just vote 3rd party. it will have the same effect.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: Nunyadambizness
3. "Elect" (or appoint) a strongman who will then lead through violence and force.


Because Biden is more of a strongman than Trump?

Oh, and Trump being a Conservative? Which traditional values did he stand for? Fidelity? Truth? Faith? Honesty?


Conserving the constitution apparently. No changes were made to it when he was in office.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: Elton
Where did Trump violate the Constitution and the Rule of Law.? Be specific.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: incoserv Yes. you are correct. The Uni-party rules.



posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: MConnalley

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Elton

What does switching your party affiliation accomplish exactly?
trigger you apparently



What I see here is approval for a democrat quitting their membership because that's interpreted as a point for the good guys but I don't quite grasp what has been achieved or why it's "winning". Pat on the back because you're not one of the stinky liar face democrats. Is it really that easy to be rewarded? 🤔



I'm quite sure the OP wasn't looking for a raisin for rolling over.🙄

The "reward" or "winning" you miscategorized has nothing to do with either in this regard.

The OP is simply pulling his or her support for the clear reasons stated in the post.

What really baffles me is your willful ignorance concerning ALL that the Democratic party, as it stands today, is doing to destroy the foundations of our nation. Apparently, you seem to be comfy with it and weirdly puzzled why the OP is suddenly not.

Those giving congratulations aren't as compromised as you which I'm sure only exacerbates your confusion.

Explain to those who may be curious HOW it's even possible that things are going just splendidly currently.

Would love to understand how ANY of what is transpiring under this administration is coherent and frankly legal in your opinion.
edit on 10/2/2021 by EternalShadow because: eta



posted on Oct, 3 2021 @ 10:48 AM
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Thanks for the responses, I appreciate them all.


originally posted by: willzilla
Welcome to the non party. Where logical thinking overrules emotion. Where there is no your truth, just simply the truth.

Thanks



originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
a reply to: Elton

Question is, why would you be a Democrat in the first place?

Many, many, many, many years ago when I was in high-school, I was told it is time to register for a political party and the draft. Back then it sure seemed like the Democrats were more fiscally responsible (either I was really wrong at the time or they changed drastically, probably both.) It's also a safe bet that I was influenced by the era and town I grew up in as well as my parent's political leanings.

I don't regret it if that's what you are suggesting. I've always voted my heart (not down party) and chosen my friends by their actions and not their political or religious beliefs.


originally posted by: incoserv
a reply to: Elton

The "two-party system" in the US is a joke, a disgrace, and a deception. They are two sides of the same coin; and the coin is a plugged nickle.

That's how I've been feeling.


originally posted by: carewemust
We Independents are almost THE MAJORITY of voters.

Welcome to the club, and congratulations for USING your brain.


Thanks


originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
a reply to: Elton

Question is, why would you be a Democrat in the first place?


Not to answer for the OP, but there was a time when - however precariously - the two different ends of the political spectrum were a good necessity. I've often said that nobody is right all the time. When opposing views can openly dialog for a true mutual understanding, or at least a reasonable compromise, we check one another.

That does not happen anymore.

That was a great answer.



originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Elton

What does switching your party affiliation accomplish exactly?

To my own self be true.


originally posted by: CupcakeKarma
a reply to: Elton

Thank you for your well thought-out and better written reasons for leaving the democratic party.

Your reasons are exact and 'right on'.

Thanks, it seemed that ATS was a good place for me to say my peace.


originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Elton

Good that you quit the democrat party.
Not that the other is much different.

THanks, I think you are correct.


originally posted by: Kingnothing33
a reply to: Elton
Yeah, you make many good points. Becoming aware can stir up the soul, or is it agitation?

Things are bad today. Every single thing on the political stage is a hoax of some type. An every solution is engineered for destruction, even the conservatives are on board to help find “solutions” to these problems created by government.

Why not stop with the blatant attacks on humanity?

Things getting worse and worse for the average person is what made me re-analyze my beliefs and who I should put my trust in.

Cheers, ATS.



posted on Oct, 3 2021 @ 10:51 AM
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Hi. Bravo to you. Take the red pill !
Lifetime Republican here and I won’t apologize. The Republican Party platform(minus the RINO surrender to the NWO) is really closer to what our Founding Fathers envisioned, but there is too much compromise right now. That said, do you believe that JB is really running this thing right now? The Communist Party and George Soros have been running the DNC for quite some time. MoveOn, Huffpo, Salon and many more are the front groups Soros use to further far left ideologies.
I post a lot about the writings of Antony Sutton on Hegelian Dialectic and how Wall Street financed both both the communist party platform and fascism. You see they armed both sides of that “managed conflict”. The CFR even talks about managing conflict in its website.
As a lifetime Republican, I am yet aware of things like Bohemian Grove and “eyes wide shut” parties used to blackmail politicians and others to do the bidding of tptb. And they are everywhere.
When the tool of the communist party was elected, I knew we were in deep trouble.
Soros and Co have been using mass groups like Occupy Wall Street, BLM, and Antifa ( which eve has its roots in the original communist leaning front group from the 30’s) to bring mass protests and even destroy property.
You see big Wall Streeters use groups like that to achieve their goals.
The goals of Marxism are to destroy private property and put down the family unit. Why do you think hrc wrote a book called, “It Takes a Village?” Because she and her cronies subscribe to the same collectivism which BO subscribed to, only they get to wealthy elites while the rest of us get to be the poor downtrodden proletarian workers ...
get my point ? We are the useless eaters who still do the work, while they plot to kill us in our old age ( think shutdowns, nursing homes and mandatory lethal jabs).
Yes this is not jfks party or the party of your grandparents, it’s really the ccp and Soros and the whole deep state new world order. Yes Republicans are in it too( not all, some are really good people with good motive).
Our Founding Fathers envisioned more classical liberal and libertarian ideals which embrace liberty freedom and true justice, as well as limited government, which as we know has been dispensed with by both the major parties.
Right now, we are truly under a totalitarian regime. The players at the top do not come under the rules they make for the rest of us, that is for sure. Operatives in both parties get rich while they soak the poor while pretending to help the little guy with more and more welfare while they themselves get richer. It’s a cesspool which is quite deeper than even Trump realized. He tried and gave it his best shot only to be brutalized by both parties.
I do not know what is in store... I pray every day for a true solution which allows for freedom and liberty (not wild libertine values but that which allows us to live our lives without being told what to eat or how much toilet paper we can have or without being forced to wear a mask for a fake pandemic... because that’s just a tool for the totalitarian rule.
I hope that we can see eye to eye about what is really going on here, because I can see that you see through the veneer.
Thanks for your heartfelt posting.
Other sources I use are Rosa Koires book, “Behind The Green Mask”, and the writings of G Edward Griffin and also the former kgb dissident Yuri Besmenov(YouTube).
Regards
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posted on Oct, 3 2021 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: incoserv


Question is, why would you be a Democrat in the first place?

Not to answer for the OP, but there was a time when - however precariously - the two different ends of the political spectrum were a good necessity. I've often said that nobody is right all the time. When opposing views can openly dialog for a true mutual understanding, or at least a reasonable compromise, we check one another.

That does not happen anymore.


I could understand that if the two parties were anywhere near the ends of the spectrum. The Democrats were, at their most extreme, a centrist liberal - centrist liberal in the real world sense, not the online soundbite sense - party. They were never a convincing alternative to the Republican Party, just a milder version, a political Pepsi v Coke thing.
Historically speaking, the Democrats were the party of kkk and opposing emancipation. Somewhere along the way, party leadership decided to pretend it was the other way around and put up a facade that they were for minorities and the common people, but most of that seems to be really rooted in Marxist ideology and using people to build a power base. Now we see total take over by the radical left policies of extreme Marxism, socialism, and communism. If the passing of the ACA by the entire Democrat party plus two RINOS didn’t prove it out, I don’t know what would.
I constantly harp on Hegelian dialectical reasoning because, as Antony Sutton put it, the synthesis is neither right nor left but a distillation of the the end result of the conflict between the opposing factions.
But the two-party system is used to further it.
But again, the Deep State uses the Marxist ideals and allow them to flourish in our government as a tool to further the agenda, which is ultimately a totalitarian rule over our lives, and it’s the real reason the GOP has become the “controlled opposition”, if you will, with just a few outliers for posterity.



posted on Oct, 3 2021 @ 12:00 PM
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Good to see many exDemocrats cleanzing the bullhemia 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2021 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Elton

What does switching your party affiliation accomplish exactly?


This is a pointless question.

It seems like the OP bothered you (which is fine), somehow, by posting his/her experience and decision based on a plethora of completely understandable factoids. If I’m wrong, then explain why you felt you needed to ask a brattish question without addressing anything else? Is it pertinent, somehow?

They decided to leave the party (or, better put, the party left them) and explain here why that choice was made. To me, this is what it looks like when someone sets their foundation on sturdy ground, compared to building on quicksand where values and ethics seem to shift day-by-day depending on what the controllers are passing down to the foot soldiers that week.

To answer your pointless question: probably nothing

Here, let me try and use your tactics: what do your comments accomplish exactly?

Why not address the bulk of the information in the actual post instead of shunting?



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