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Workers Who Maintain Supply Chains Warn of Worldwide ‘System Collapse’

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posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 05:05 PM
You might be right about long winded, but I see a lot of detail.

Thanks for the reply, I got from it you are open to that probabilities I see too.

a reply to: CircumstancialEvidence

posted on Oct, 2 2021 @ 05:09 PM
a reply to: TheRedneck

Our EPA is part of the plan to set up the CCP with all the raw materials and our patents for very dangerous concepts to freedom. By crashing down on our production, no matter the reason for the need, they are forcing industry to China and 3rd world * holes.

posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 08:46 AM
a reply to: musicismagic

Interesting, I wasn't aware that Japanese companies contracted Brazilian workers. Is that primarily the auto industry or does it include other industries as well? Shame to hear Toyota production is down. Some of my best cars and trucks have been Toyota. They run forever if they are properly cared for.

A major problem I'm seeing in America is that there is an excess of vacant jobs which people don't want to work. The gov't has been paying people more to stay home than to work. I constantly have business owners trying to hire me, but I already have more work than I need. How's the employment situation in Japan?

posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 09:26 AM
a reply to: TheRedneck

You're right, America does have a lot of rare earths but they aren't cost effective at this point. Good points about China and building rare earth capabilities into their extraction process. The Communist and quasi-Capitalist (at least for the Chinese elite) model they have is different animal than American Crony-Capitalism. They have no issue polluting heavily to accomplish their goals, and have been saying they need until at least 2030 to finish industrializing, whatever that means. The carbon credit scam is ridiculous but the average John and Jane Doe think it's just swell. If westerners were trained in critical thinking and could do their own research we'd be in a better place overall, but here we are living with the consequences of a populace who gets most of their info from propagandists on a television screen.

TMRC has secured rights to a very rich rare earth deposit which also contains a decent amount of precious and semi-precious minerals, which is promising for continued development of the site. Actual production is still a ways off which doesn't do much good for now. Perhaps necessity will cause interested parties to expedite the process.

The pollution involved with rare earths is basically an ecological disaster. You're absolutely right. I don't have any use for the carbon credits bullsnip, but the direct poisoning of the land, air and water does concern me. From making the extraction equipment, to extracting the elements, processing them or recycling waste to refine the rare earths, it is both dangerous and very polluting. Another reason China is in a unique position to dominate rare earths. With western regulations it has been prohibitively expensive to produce or recycle rare earths. China seems cool with indiscriminately polluting some areas of their country. They're also heavily involved in Africa where there is very little oversight or environmental protections.

This brings me to the main reason I find GOMRF to be so interesting. They are attempting to and have been successfully developing and patenting processes to recycle rare earths within strict economic guidelines.

GEOMEGA - Rare Earths - Refining - Recycling

Sustainable and Innovative Extraction, Separation and Recycling Technologies for Rare Earth Element (REE) and other critical metals

Geomega develops innovative technologies for extraction and separation of rare earth elements and other critical metals essential for a sustainable future. With a focus on renewable energies, vehicle electrification, automation and reduction in energy usage, rare earth magnets or neo-magnets (NdFeB) are at the center of all these technologies. Geomega’s strategy revolves around gradually de-risking our innovative technology and delivering cashflow, increase margins and return value to shareholders while working directly with the main players in these industries to recycle the magnets that power all those technologies.

As our technologies are demonstrated on larger scales, Geomega is committed to work with major partners to help extract value from mining feeds, tailings and other industrial residues which contain rare earths and other critical metals. Irrespective of the metal or the source, Geomega adopts a consistent approach to reduce the environmental impact and to contribute to lowering greenhouse gases emissions through recycling the major reagents in the process.

Geomega’s core project is based around the ISR Technology (Innord’s Separation of Rare Earths), a proprietary, low-cost, environmentally friendly way to tap into a C$1.5 billion global market to recycle magnet production waste and end of life magnets profitably & safely.

Geomega continually evaluates other opportunities to apply its ISR Technology to other critical metals and other feed materials from various industries from all over the world.

Geomega conducts all its R&D activities through Innord, a wholly owned private subsidiary and its innovation arm at the National Research Council of Canada (CNRC) facilities in Bouchverville, Quebec and is developing the first rare earth recycling facility in Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville.

Geomega also owns 100% of the Montviel rare earth and niobium deposit, located in Quebec with the largest 43-101 bastnaesite resource in Canada, permanent access and excellent infrastructure.

If you have a few minutes and are interested check the website out. There's a lot of interesting info to be found on the site. It's a company which has the potential to do big things. I'm not afiliated with the company in any way. Just thought that might be worth mentioning in regards to the T&Cs.

Cheers, hope you had a good weekend!

posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 09:38 AM
a reply to: interupt42

Yeah you're probably right. The long dark New England winter is coming to VT shortly and FL is a much better place to be. We have a large population of FL folks with second homes in VT. They travel back and forth with the seasons.

My grandfather lived in Florida for years and I've spent a lot of time in JAX. Love it there. He had a couple massive avocado trees and I used to love climbing around in those trees as a young boy. Wish I still had access to those as avocados are over a buck a piece in VT at this point. I could make a stack of cash selling them here, hah.

Lived in Savannah, GA for a while a few years back and traveled to Florida often. Miss it down there. Good to hear that y'all are remaining sensible and not falling for the covid hype.


posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 09:49 AM
a reply to: ketsuko

You've got the best forms of prevention already locked down! A good diet and proper exercise are essential to a good life, as you are well aware.

The distinction between a hard workout being fun or painful is a really important one. If the hard workout hurts and takes a couple days or more to recover from, the person with a long recovery isn't really in shape! I was struggling a bit after a recent hernia surgery and lower back issues but after making significant lifestyle changes I'm back to being able to work out and bike ride aggressively without being crippled for two or three days. In fact, if I go a day and a half without working out my body starts to scream at me to get busy.

Fwiw, I don't have any concerns about being vaxxed. I'm confident that those of us who invest in our health will be just fine.


posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 10:00 AM
a reply to: CircumstancialEvidence

That would be pretty cool if they manage to perfect that process. I will try to check it out later. Thank you!

China has always had a completely different outlook on progress than we have. We see things in term of "tomorrow" and strive for "perfection." China sees things in terms of ten, twenty years from now and strives for "acceptability." Those are vastly different philosophies.

Seeing things in terms of "tomorrow" has caused us to liquidate companies which could have continued to strengthen our economy. Did you know there are no TV sets produced in the US? None! Many years ago, I saw Donald Trump (this was long before he became President) throwing a literal hissy fit on TV! It seems he was remodeling one of his hotels and wanted to upgrade to all flat-screen TVs. But he wanted to go farther... he wanted them to be made in America! Now, this was a couple years after Curtis Mathis (the last US TV manufacturer, I still have one of their last models) went out of business. No amount of money could get Trump what he wanted, and to my ears what he wanted was not preposterous.

The US TV manufacturers shut down because they were worth more to the shareholders liquidated than they were operating.

In China, the worth to the shareholders in the present is not the primary concern. They will take a company and work to build it up to produce more in the future rather than liquidating it to take the money and run. In the long term, that is a much more successful strategy, because it diversifies the economy. A diverse economy is a sustainable economy. That was what killed Venezuela: they lost all their diversity and relied on one single thing: fuels. When that commodity dropped in price, the country collapsed.

We are literally doing the same thing, but we had a much more diverse economy to start with. We are letting entire industries slip away, leaving less diversity to combat natural economic trends. We have lost much of our manufacturing, and have become basically a service economy.

The difference between "perfection" and "acceptability" is another huge gulf. Perfection says that if something is polluting, it must not happen, ever, under no circumstances. If something wastes water, it must never be allowed to waste water, ever, under any circumstances. Where I live we have plenty of water! Good, clean, clear water! We have creeks and rivers running all through the area, swamplands scattered about that act as natural reservoirs, and regular rainfall. We don't need to worry about conserving water like places such as Arizona or portions of California do. Those places need water-saving devices; but under the policy of perfection, they force those same devices on me. I literally cannot buy a showerhead that is not metered to save water!

I can take out the baffles, of course. Please don't tell Arizona.

China looks at their country and picks areas that are less than optimal for human habitation, and let those areas be polluted as much as needed to supply the areas that are optimal for human habitation. That is not a great idea, of course, since pollution tends to escape one area and move into another. I only say this to show the difference in philosophy. Like you, I despise pollution of the soil and water.


posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 10:08 AM
a reply to: ketsuko

Totally. There was a good documentary which came out a few years back about conflict minerals and tech companies which were unscrupulous about contracting with some very nasty people to get those rare earths.

If I remember correctly the main focus was on cell phone companies and the rare earths that went into producing them which were mined in places like the Congo where local warlords were using child labor to mine them. Something absolutely horrific like that. I can't remember the name of the documentary but a quick internet search would turn it up.

Yep, found it right away. It came out in 2010 and didn't get a whole lot of recognition if I remember correctly. It's a brutal documentary but worth watching. I use cell phones, laptops and other tech all the time but documentaries like this made me much more careful about making them last. I think I've saved every device since then as I didn't want to throw them out and contribute to the pollution and consumerism.

Blood In The Mobile

What a world!

posted on Oct, 4 2021 @ 10:16 AM
a reply to: Justoneman

Right on I appreciate that!

You're very welcome. Yes, sounds like points of view align. It can be a challenge to locate and connect with like-minded individuals in this chaotic world. I'm glad I finally made an account after many years of lurking and am grateful to connect with others who have similar views to my own.


posted on Oct, 5 2021 @ 08:10 AM
a reply to: TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

You're very welcome! I sincerely hope they are able to figure out these processes and scale them up to levels where they can have a meaningful impact. As you've aptly pointed out: China can and does pollute heavily to accomplish their agendas, but we in the west do not have that option and I'd like to think we know better post-industrialization and after some of the lessons learned over the past century. America has far too many superfund sites which will cost more money than the fed and politicians have been indiscriminately printing to fund their slush funds, scams and the covid larp.

Thank you for sharing your insights about China. You have very useful and accurate information about what is occurring and why it is occurring. I am in my mid 30's and was born long enough ago to remember what America was like when it was a manufacturing powerhouse, before the decline into a decadent, wasteful and neutered consumerism based economy. I was fortunate to be rasied by some good people who taught me the importance and value of hard work and trade skills.

American Exceptionalism turned into American complacency. Manufacturing was gutted, sold off and exported. Tech industries were gutted and exported. Skilled labor which payed well was exported. Americans were made to train their replacements brought in from overseas. Planned obsolence was scaled up to ridiculous levels. One intentional financial crisis after another racked the economy and with the inevitable bailouts coming from government with the burdened always shouldered by the tax paying citizens. Crony capitalism rules in America.

Those are only a few issues America has faced in recent years. I'm grateful I've been alive to witness and comprehend these events; I am also pretty disgusted at the brazenness of politicians and complacency of citizens. As you've said we have become a service economy which can't function without endless consumerism. America sacrificed many of her greatest strengths and attributes for this, and it is unsustainable.

I live in Cali... twice. It was a bad decision... twice. Hah. It's beautiful there but there are far too many issues ans taxes for it to be worthwhile. I was up in the Sierra Nevadas near Tahoe where there is plenty of water and lots of natural beauty, but that wasn't enough to keep me with the issues. The measures which California require are ridiculous! I co-own a small landscaping business in VT and anytime I buy new commercial grade power equipment I have to do modifications to get them to run properly. The systems put in place to "reduce emissions" and "reduce noise" ironically end up causing even more pollution in terms of materials, leaking petroleum and noise pollution. Those crappy restrictive mechanisms which are installed break in record time and end up causing the equipment to need to go to landfills sooner. I have a couple pieces of gear which have lasted for years with minimal maintainence and the occasional replaced parts... I'm lucky to get two years out of expensive newer models.

LOL to the metered shower heads. Your secret is safe with me. Love Arizona by the way. Beautiful country to drive through and explore on foot. Been out that way a few times in my cross country road trips.

Well said about polluting "undesirable" areas. It shows incredible shortsightedness and an absolute disregard for situations created to be inherited by those who have yet to be born. I am of the belief that what is beneath or feet is far more complicated than what is taught and believed. I think the volume of water beneath us far exceeds the volumes on the land and in the ocean, and I believe it is all connected. I'm not a hollow earth guy, but I think that what we are taught about the composition of the earth and how it all works is very inadequate and not an accurate representation of what is really ocurring (another topic for another thread). At the very least it is a terrible idea for humans to pollute because they can without showing regard for the earth and her inhabitants.


posted on Oct, 5 2021 @ 09:32 AM
a reply to: CircumstancialEvidence

Damn... so much to say to that post and so little time.

Got to get to a doc appointment out of town, but I'll try to remember to respond when I get back this evening.


posted on Oct, 6 2021 @ 10:57 PM

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: CircumstancialEvidence

Congestion at the Port of Los Angeles has reached an all-time high. There are a lot of contributing factors, but with today's technology I can't see how this could happen without being planned.

All those dots are ships waiting to come into port and unload. I've never seen anything like it in my entire life.
I'll take a picture later today if it's clear enough.

Many reasons.

Soon the World Shadow War that's been hidden since Horizon Tianjin QE will step into the light. Taiwan will be the moment many realize SARS-CoV-2 and H5N8 were no accidents or happenstance of nature.

The ships are being blocked off the cost for two reasons:

Ransom embargo, and rationing.

That's the last set of goods coming this far east of China with out a torpedo in their hull for quite some time.

The doom porn is thickest when doom is at hand.


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