If the Police make you feel unsafe don’t call them

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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A teacher in Washington state was reportedly forced to remove a pro-police flag from her middle school classroom after administrators deemed it a “political message,” despite allowing messages in support of Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ pride flags to remain posted in the school.

that administrators told his sister it is “controversial” to display a “Thin Blue Line” flag in her classroom and that it “makes kids and staff feel unsafe.”

This is getting stupid.
Yes there are some bad cops, but overall we need to get away from this I’m scared of cops bs.
If people are truly scared of cops why are they always calling them? Next time someone tries to rob or murder them, they should call BLM or LGBTQ to help them. I’m serious, if you claim to be scared of the police, you can’t just be scared of them at school right?

Statism is the worlds most dangerous religion. Police or cops are simply one (huge) part of the equation. The reason things make little sense or seem stupid is because the political world starts with a conclusion and then work backward.

We are fools to believe anything they say. We are fools to accept any of their stated conclusions or solutions.

Every problem currently on the table has been either fabricated or manufactured by them. They are not stupid but we, being a democracy an all, wear that badge, and seemingly with pride.

originally posted by: loam
That's like saying don't call the doctor for heart attacks, strokes, and automobile accidents, since most of the time physicians deal with less life-threatening conditions.

Moronic assertion, you go TO the doctor (emergency room) when those things happen.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The biggest threat to a black person is another black person so yeah, fear the cops.

a reply to: JAGStorm
A little diddy about my last contact with the police. Let me preface it with some back ground info...my father is 87 and in the latter stage of dementia. My mother is 84 and suffers from numerous ailments from diabetes, to an opioid dependence due to a slipped disc when she fell back in 1978. I am 51 and the sole care giver to the two of them. I do not wish either to be hospitalized simply due to how the system has become over the past two years (covid era rules). Neither would be able to survive for very long locked down in an institution.
Now back to my point. 4 am a loud pounding on my door. I mean to the point that I thought someone was taking the door down it was so loud. Then my mom yelling for me at the top of her lungs. I jumped out of my bed and hit the den in about 3 steps it seemed like. There standing outside on the porch was 3 police officers, 2 medics, and about 4-6 firemen, and my Dad. I had to go and get the deadbolt key to open the door (not able to keep nearby because dad liked to go on walks). We got the door open and found out dad had woke up in the middle of the night and managed to open a sliding glass door and decided to “walk to work” because “ it was time and he was late”. The police had found him walking in the road about 3/4 of a mile from the house barefoot and wrapped in a blanket. He had no ID on him and they could tell he was quite confused. They had picked him up and taken him to the fire station (about a mile from the house) to be checked and to try to figure out what was going on. One of the medics on duty remembered him from a visit to the house several weeks earlier for my mom who had an event take place. They all took it upon themselves to bring him to the house. They didn’t have to, they could have just taken him to the hospital and dumped him there. But they went above and beyond, because quite frankly that’s what those people do. All the time, every day, in every way. Individuals who put on those uniforms (police,fire, and medic) are some of the most God loving and special people on this planet.
It’s difficult for me to wrap my brain around how people such as these have become so vilified and hated by so many citizens as they have. I compare it to whatever subliminal message was put out about toilet paper last April that caused a massive run on the item and a shortage that shouldn’t have existed.
I see and hear all the time about up being down and down being up and living in clown world, ect. Some how some way it was implanted into the subconscious of the general population. Figure out how that happened and what the triggers are and we will all understand how most people never question anything they simply follow and scream whatever they hear. And how a “gentleman” with the same affliction as my dad was “elected” into the most powerful office in the world.

If I suffer a home invasion and I’m uncomfortable calling the police, when it’s over shall I call the funeral home directly to dispose of the bodies?

I'm not calling the cops, but nosey neighbor Karen will. How do I skirt that?

There are no good cops as long as they turn a blind eye to and protect bad cops. Full stop.

I can't tell the difference by looking at them anyway, can you? I treat them the way they treat us; full of suspicion, no trust, keep your hands where I can see them, etc. When those public servamts start respecting the people they interact with, then maybe they will get some back.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: loam
That's like saying don't call the doctor for heart attacks, strokes, and automobile accidents, since most of the time physicians deal with less life-threatening conditions.

Moronic assertion, you go TO the doctor (emergency room) when those things happen.

Apparently you couldn't extrapolate to calling the ambulance...and you avoided the primary argument.

Yawn.

originally posted by: loam
Apparently you couldn't extrapolate to calling the ambulance...and you avoided the primary argument.

If I or someone in my home is in need of immediate medical assistance the person is being driven directly to the hospital, not waiting on an ambulance to be dispatched and then going to the ER.

The fact that you want to rely on potentially slow government services to save your life is your call.

The teacher should kee it up until fired then collect the outrageous unemployment checks which are probably more than her current pay. Then find some other career to get into. Plenty of low end jobs paying far more than teachers make right now.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Stay focused on the topic. Who exactly is driving the battered wife or assault victim to safety?

originally posted by: loam
Stay focused on the topic. Who exactly is driving the battered wife or assault victim to safety?

Take your own advice. When I said, "Calling the cops is typically more of an after the event type thing...", did you catch the word 'typically'? Does 'typically' imply 'always' or to the non-pedant does that infer there are other occurrences?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

What you said was "To be blunt, if you're in a life and death situation calling the cops isn't going to do you much good, particularly if you're already in your own home."

Pretty stupid claim, don't you think?

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz
I'm not calling the cops, but nosey neighbor Karen will. How do I skirt that?

There are no good cops as long as they turn a blind eye to and protect bad cops. Full stop.

I can't tell the difference by looking at them anyway, can you? I treat them the way they treat us; full of suspicion, no trust, keep your hands where I can see them, etc. When those public servamts start respecting the people they interact with, then maybe they will get some back.

Interesting.

By that measure, there are no good criminals either, and that is by definition.

Police have no idea what they are walking up on if they pull over a speeder or a expired tag or whatever. If they are called to an incident then something has obviously already happened to be called for that someone felt required police.

Now apply your same logic to the other side please.

originally posted by: Nickn3
If I suffer a home invasion and I’m uncomfortable calling the police, when it’s over shall I call the funeral home directly to dispose of the bodies?

Nah.....bodies make great fertilizer. Start a big garden!

originally posted by: JAGStorm
...we need to get away from this I’m scared of cops bs.

Everyday, police save lives across this country, but those aren't the stories you're going to read or the sentiment you are going to hear.

It's time we put things into perspective and context. Hold the bad apples accountable and laud the men and women who risk their lives for this important- but thankless- public service.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: loam
Apparently you couldn't extrapolate to calling the ambulance...and you avoided the primary argument.

If I or someone in my home is in need of immediate medical assistance the person is being driven directly to the hospital, not waiting on an ambulance to be dispatched and then going to the ER.

The fact that you want to rely on potentially slow government services to save your life is your call.

In my town I have seen people walk faster than the ambulances drive, I'm talking highways with light traffic. I would rather walk than rely on them. And before you say they where working on a patient, 4 hospitals within 10 miles on the south side of town, nearest hospital to the north is 80+ miles.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Growing up with gangsters in the family police were a day to day growing up so I was never afraid of them. From the age of about 6 I was dealing with them when they showed up looking for someone on the run, hiding upstairs. Just before the microbial assault of the economy began I was surrounded in the middle of the night in my own parking lot while waiting for a taxi to do a little midnight shopping. Police cars everywhere. Cops everywhere. The fact is I'd just stepped out the door of my home and didn't have time to commit any crimes! But they surrounded me in the middle of the night and were determined to make a bust. Not arresting me would look bad considering the firepower I was facing. A friend of mine from the corner who works cash when he's not playing with his band called police not long before to report a theft where he worked. Police ran his name thru since they were there anyway and came up with a warrant outstanding from when he was a teen. They never caught the theives but arrested a shop=clerk & got him canned. people should be a little afraid. The cops who came at me did so on pride weekend. Me, I radiate gay like fukushima radiates strontium 90. I think they saw an opportunity to target a minority standing alone. I was what they supposed was an easy target. I wasn't but Lord, didn't they try to arrest e. I've never been arrested so decided this would be an opportunity to cross it off my bucket list. I fought back and put the boots to the lot of them. In recent weeks the police have been badmouthed rather unfairly by the local press. They're not all bad. Most are following orders on this covid/flu craziness. But so am I. We're all complicit.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
American police are scary compared to cops from other countries.

Way to trigger happy and generally aggressive.

Police should have no place in schools unless something serious happens.

Have you seen how police in Russia deal with criminals. How about middle eastern countries that enforce Sharia law. I don't know about you but I'm not scared of police. I've had several interactions with police and if you comply you don't get beat, tazed or shot. Simple.

originally posted by: loam
What you said was "To be blunt, if you're in a life and death situation calling the cops isn't going to do you much good, particularly if you're already in your own home."

Pretty stupid claim, don't you think?

It's pretty stupid to think that the cops are going to save you if someone is in your home, but they are the perfect people to call to fill out the paperwork after you adult the situation yourself.

originally posted by: Jason79
In my town I have seen people walk faster than the ambulances drive, I'm talking highways with light traffic. I would rather walk than rely on them. And before you say they where working on a patient, 4 hospitals within 10 miles on the south side of town, nearest hospital to the north is 80+ miles.

You should tell that to Mr. I Rely on the Government.